TRT Cost

Davy25

Davy25

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Hey guys,

I just got back from the mens clinic getting bloods done *it was only $99 for screening/ blood tests* and i figured Id see if I am back at baseline. Results come in tomorrow. They said given my age they probably wouldnt put me on TRT due to my age unless I got a sleep study done. They did offer though to put me on HCG and quoted 6 months at $1100, 12 months at $1900. Jeeeeez. for HCG........

One review of the clinic said dont go there unless you plan to spend 3k so id imagine this is the cost of TRT. This includes visits and continued blood tests and AI if needed. But that seems so dang expensive. How much do you guys pay a month/ annually? There has to be a better way to do this.
 
$99 for blood work is low. Care to list what they tested for? For a good solid panel its $250 min. I'm going to assume for $99 it was bare min. So to clarify about $158 a month just for HCG? Im I reading this right (I don't think I am)? I would run from that place. What the name? If it's personal and will give to much detail about you then don't post it.

Here my cost. See below.

1 vial of 10ml (200mg/ml) Test Cyp is $40. If I did order tru my compounding pharmacy it's a bit more $129. Last about 3 months ish. $40 tru a regular pharmacy. Could also look a goodrx. Check health insurance usually covered or sometimes even cheaper.

HCG 12,000iu vial $70. Going to last a while. Optional cost.

Anastrozole tru my compounding pharmacy $1-1.50 per cap (dose dependent), but there are custom doses. Normal 1mg tablets (8 total) tru a regular pharmacy should be about $5.28ish. Check health insurance usually covered or sometimes even cheaper. Custom dosing is the way to go.

Use insulin syringe 27g 1/2in .5cc. Saves cost and no waste of medicine. $10-13 per 100.

Bloodwork twice a year or once if your dialed in. 1 physical a year. These cost only you would know.

Best way to go about this is tru a telecommunication/telemedicine dr. There a few good places out there. One of them is Defy Medical, but a little research can point to more. Google excelmale How to Find a Good Doctor. Hope this helps.
 
Yeah $158 just for hcg and then bloods/ AI if necessary and free clinic visits.

I dont really care about hcg i have no interest in taking it. Its kind of frustrating being 25 and even if my bloods show i have low T i cant ger perscribed it....

Im gonna check out another clinic down the road to see if they are any different and check out the places recomended.
 
Davy25 said:
Yeah $158 just for hcg and then bloods/ AI if necessary and free clinic visits.

I dont really care about hcg i have no interest in taking it. Its kind of frustrating being 25 and even if my bloods show i have low T i cant ger perscribed it....

Im gonna check out another clinic down the road to see if they are any different and check out the places recomended.
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Honestly, they’re pretty dumb to give hcg but not test imo. Hcg would be suppressive longterm. What were your bloodwork numbers if you dont mind me asking? And how long post-cycle were the bloods drawn? Hrt clinics are typically a lot easier to get trt from, but they also charge you a ****-ton. I’d spend more time thinking if trt would be right for you as well.
 
Davy25 said:
Yeah $158 just for hcg and then bloods/ AI if necessary and free clinic visits.

I dont really care about hcg i have no interest in taking it. Its kind of frustrating being 25 and even if my bloods show i have low T i cant ger perscribed it....

Im gonna check out another clinic down the road to see if they are any different and check out the places recomended.
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Way overpriced HCG. Stay away from clinics. Almost all Doctors there don’t know what there doing not to mention prices. I gave you the tools earlier to help you out, just use it and do your research.
 
Is insulin syringe good enough for test injections? I just gotten trt at 200 every 2 weeks but they gave me 22ga 1.5 needles, draw and pin with same needle. If 1/2 is good enough for glute I might just grab those. I'm dosing every 3.5 days even though doc said once every 2 weeks I read a lot of info that advised aggainst that so I'm ging to speak with him when I go in for bloods in December .
 
GrizzleB said:
Is insulin syringe good enough for test injections? I just gotten trt at 200 every 2 weeks but they gave me 22ga 1.5 needles, draw and pin with same needle. If 1/2 is good enough for glute I might just grab those. I'm dosing every 3.5 days even though doc said once every 2 weeks I read a lot of info that advised aggainst that so I'm ging to speak with him when I go in for bloods in December .
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Never tried insulin needles myself, but from what I’ve noticed, most people tend to use them more for smaller muscles and subq. 1/2 is too small for glute. 1-1.5 for glutes is pretty common. 1-2 pins per week is definitely better than the 2 weeks that your doc insisted on, so I’d definitely mention that to him like you said.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Never tried insulin needles myself, but from what I’ve noticed, most people tend to use them more for smaller muscles and subq. 1/2 is too small for glute. 1-1.5 for glutes is pretty common. 1-2 pins per week is definitely better than the 2 weeks that your doc insisted on, so I’d definitely mention that to him like you said.
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Thanks, I'm not apposed to pinning in other areas. Is sub q as effective as IM?
 
GrizzleB said:
Thanks, I'm not apposed to pinning in other areas. Is sub q as effective as IM?
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I’ve seen mixed opinions on subq vs im. Some people will argue that subq is better for reasons such as preventing scar tissue, reducing spikes in estrogen, better absorption, etc. Most people, including myself, tend to go with intramuscular.
 
You could always stock up on test and treat yourself. Or keep looking around for better clinics. I don’t get why clinics won’t treat young men with low t. Do they think it might get better on its own? Or are they afraid it’ll stain their reputation and make them look like a steroid mill, which they technically are anyway?
 
Yeah self administered TRT is dirt cheap. You just have to stay on top of your own bloodwork.
 
Well i got the bloodwork back and u guys were correct, it wasnt a full panel they only checked total test and psa? Total test came back at 423 which the range is essentially 200-800 so im definetly on the lower end.

Its rather frustrating they wont give me trt and simply just worthless hcg? Ill look elsewhere but i figured theyd rather give me trt and make SOME money than me simply not being interested in junk hcg and just walking away. Ill look into other places.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
I’ve seen mixed opinions on subq vs im. Some people will argue that subq is better for reasons such as preventing scar tissue, reducing spikes in estrogen, better absorption, etc. Most people, including myself, tend to go with intramuscular.
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No difference.

GrizzleB said:
Is insulin syringe good enough for test injections? I just gotten trt at 200 every 2 weeks but they gave me 22ga 1.5 needles, draw and pin with same needle. If 1/2 is good enough for glute I might just grab those. I'm dosing every 3.5 days even though doc said once every 2 weeks I read a lot of info that advised aggainst that so I'm ging to speak with him when I go in for bloods in December .
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I been using insulin syringes for more than 2 1/2 years and is completely fine for test. You are spending so much more on needles and syringes especially if you get 1ml BD no waste Luer-Lok syringe. As I said early. Insulin syringe 27g 1/2in .5cc. Saves cost and no waste of medicine. $10-13 per 100.

It really frustrating / sad to Dr's issue crappy protocol. Lots of dr have no idea what there doing and I have seen it all! Keep the dosing split twice a week min it will be alot better. If your Dr gives you problems change Dr. I recommend creating a thread on here requesting info on your protocol that your Dr has you on and we can better assist and provide feedback.
 
GrizzleB said:
Thanks, I'm not apposed to pinning in other areas. Is sub q as effective as IM?
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AnabolicGuru said:
Never tried insulin needles myself, but from what I’ve noticed, most people tend to use them more for smaller muscles and subq. 1/2 is too small for glute. 1-1.5 for glutes is pretty common. 1-2 pins per week is definitely better than the 2 weeks that your doc insisted on, so I’d definitely mention that to him like you said.
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Sub Q & IM no difference, use both if you want. If your not to fat you can easily hit IM in outer thigh/quad with insulin syringes. Delts are also good. I do recommend site rotations.
 
Davy25 said:
Well i got the bloodwork back and u guys were correct, it wasnt a full panel they only checked total test and psa? Total test came back at 423 which the range is essentially 200-800 so im definetly on the lower end.

Its rather frustrating they wont give me trt and simply just worthless hcg? Ill look elsewhere but i figured theyd rather give me trt and make SOME money than me simply not being interested in junk hcg and just walking away. Ill look into other places.
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Also, how do you guys feel about starting up another cycle? Is it safe to assume that because my test has returned to baseline that the other metrics (lipids, cholesterol, liver enzymes) are back to baseline? How confident would you guys feel? I was "on" for 95 days, it has now been 87 days since last pin. Would you feel comfortable? This isnt counting any SERM time. I know time on + time off yada yada, but everyone says bloodworks succeeds this rule.
 
Davy25 said:
Also, how do you guys feel about starting up another cycle? Is it safe to assume that because my test has returned to baseline that the other metrics (lipids, cholesterol, liver enzymes) are back to baseline? How confident would you guys feel? I was "on" for 95 days, it has now been 87 days since last pin. Would you feel comfortable? This isnt counting any SERM time. I know time on + time off yada yada, but everyone says bloodworks succeeds this rule.
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Did you have precycle bloodwork done? Otherwise you can’t assume that 423ng/dl is baseline. If so, you could start up another cycle if you really wanted to.
 
Admin_Error said:
Sub Q & IM no difference, use both if you want. If your not to fat you can easily hit IM in outer thigh/quad with insulin syringes. Delts are also good. I do recommend site rotations.
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There is a difference in subq vs im; you’d know that if you actually took the time to do research before speaking. Slower release of the hormone, causing less spikes of estrogen, dht, etc. Preventing scar tissue by injecting into subcutaneous tissue as opposed to poking holes into muscle tissue. There’s even a study showing that the subcutaneous trt resulted in aromatization of nearly half that of intramuscular.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Did you have precycle bloodwork done? Otherwise you can’t assume that 423ng/dl is baseline. If so, you could start up another cycle if you really wanted to.
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Ill be honest with you, Im just assuming it is the baseline as I didnt get bloods before. I can wait longer *just ordered my entire cycle and AI/ SERM* but it will absolutely be tempting knowing that I have levels that APPEAR to be baseline instead of in the dumpster or highly elevated.
 
Davy25 said:
Ill be honest with you, Im just assuming it is the baseline as I didnt get bloods before. I can wait longer *just ordered my entire cycle and AI/ SERM* but it will absolutely be tempting knowing that I have levels that APPEAR to be baseline instead of in the dumpster or highly elevated.
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I’d definitely give yourself a few months then to see where your hormones go back to. Some people can return to normal in a month or two, while others might take over a year. I think you could get that total test up to 600ng/dl as long as your sleep, diet, and training are all good.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
There is a difference in subq vs im; you’d know that if you actually took the time to do research before speaking. Slower release of the hormone, causing less spikes of estrogen, dht, etc. Preventing scar tissue by injecting into subcutaneous tissue as opposed to poking holes into muscle tissue. There’s even a study showing that the subcutaneous trt resulted in aromatization of nearly half that of intramuscular.
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I have used both methods and have labs that show absolutely no difference. Same with others.

SubQ is a martter of personal comfort as much as it is anything. You are overthinking this too much. There will be no difference in absorption rates between im vs sub-q, some may claim one is better than the other but it does not matter. As far as e2 conversion testosterone dosage/excess adipose tissue and most of all genetics are key factors. As some using low testosterone doses and even lean individuals can struggle with e2 related issue.

Side note: If you need to control estrogen frequent smaller injections.
 
Admin_Error said:
I have used both methods and have labs that show absolutely no difference. Same with others.

SubQ is a martter of personal comfort as much as it is anything. You are overthinking this too much. There will be no difference in absorption rates between im vs sub-q, some may claim one is better than the other but it does not matter. As far as e2 conversion testosterone dosage/excess adipose tissue and most of all genetics are key factors. As some using low testosterone doses and even lean individuals can struggle with e2 related issue.

Side note: If you need to control estrogen frequent smaller injections.
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Yea I believe you; I’m just going by the studies I’ve read myself. I’ve yet to try subq myself but might try it soon and see if I notice a difference or not. I do think that avoiding scar tissue is a nice benefit though.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Yea I believe you; I’m just going by the studies I’ve read myself. I’ve yet to try subq myself but might try it soon and see if I notice a difference or not. I do think that avoiding scar tissue is a nice benefit though.
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Anyways give a shot. Scar tissue is really a eh point per say. Insulin syringe are small and you can go down to 31 gauge. Most guys backfill those. 27-29 gauge good selection to pick from. Don't forget site rotations.
 
Admin_Error said:
Anyways give a shot. Scar tissue is really a eh point per say. Insulin syringe are small and you can go down to 31 gauge. Most guys backfill those. 27-29 gauge good selection to pick from. Don't forget site rotations.
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Started using slin pins last cycle. Just use them for delt and quad sticks but it is insanely easier. Also dont have to worry about getting so close to nerves...seemed to happen a lot on my previous quad sticks. I thought the whole idea was stupid....but once I tried it MAN it makes those pins easy!
 
Forget the hormone clinics entirely....total rip off and they don't give a rats ass about you. I now go through my primary doc and insurance.

$30 10ML test cyp - last about three months
$13 HCG (through a pharmacy in India - they send from a big listed pharmaceutical company)
$3 anastrozole

i get pins through internet. cheaper than even through my insurance from a pharmacy
 
My trt is pretty cheap even without insurance. It costs me about 13 dollars a week for 200mg test cyp and 2 22g 1.5in 3cc luer locks. At this dose i dont have a need for an ai and dont plan on kids so no hcg.

Blood tests and doc visits should be the only spendy parts. My local hospital does this health fair thing twice a month where i can get a CMP and lipids for 35 bucks and a total test for 27. They dont do a deal on e2 though. If you look around you can probably find something like this too. Esp if you live in a metropolitan area.

You can get it even cheaper if you use ugl to source your test. But like everyone else said, the onus to stay on your bloods is on you.

Also youll still probably have a hard time getting a doc to prescribe trt when youre coming in mid 400s. Especially for your age because you could still make that level climb with habit changes. It took a lot of convincing for my doc to put me on it at 26 coming in at 170ng/dl. I was like an asexual log on the couch and i had to do bloods 3 times coming in that low before he finally budged.
 
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