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TRT And Prohoromes

Slims

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After years of trial and error my TRT is balanced out and is working for me, instead of against me.
Now that I've been stable on all blood work for four months I'm considering adding 1-Andro to my TRT. As it doesn't aromatise like 4-Andro or increase DHT like Epi-Andro, this seems to be the best anabolic addition. However, as it can cause lethargy without a test base (4-AD or Epi-AD) would TRT act/serve as a "base" and mitigate the 1-Andro side effects?

History
-Lifting for 15 years, taken almost every "supplement" under the sun in those 15 years, including above mentioned andros, three years on TRT
 
I'm not trying to be a dick, but you're talking about things that are not a real test base (4ad and epi) like everyone else does and then you're asking if actual testosterone is a test base.

Nothing is more of a test base than testosterone. And trt is testosterone.

With that being said, even on testosterone or a test base, some people still have issues with 1andro. You may need to add more testosterone, or the addition of epiandro would help as well.

I'm not a fan of 1andro because it use to make me feel crappy.

I'd rather run (another injectable or oral steroid) but epiandro @900+ or a sarm like LGD or rad 150 @ 30-50mg instead of 1 andro at the typical 330-440mg dose.


I just realized you said you've already ran 1andro. If you liked it before and you felt fine with 4andro, then testosterone at TRT dose is plenty
 
Slims said:
After years of trial and error my TRT is balanced out and is working for me, instead of against me.
Now that I've been stable on all blood work for four months I'm considering adding 1-Andro to my TRT. As it doesn't aromatise like 4-Andro or increase DHT like Epi-Andro, this seems to be the best anabolic addition. However, as it can cause lethargy without a test base (4-AD or Epi-AD) would TRT act/serve as a "base" and mitigate the 1-Andro side effects?

History
-Lifting for 15 years, taken almost every "supplement" under the sun in those 15 years, including above mentioned andros, three years on TRT
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Test is the ultimate "Test base".
 
Smont said:
I'm not trying to be a dick, but you're talking about things that are not a real test base (4ad and epi) like everyone else does and then you're asking if actual testosterone is a test base.

Nothing is more of a test base than testosterone. And trt is testosterone.

With that being said, even on testosterone or a test base, some people still have issues with 1andro. You may need to add more testosterone, or the addition of epiandro would help as well.

I'm not a fan of 1andro because it use to make me feel crappy.

I'd rather run (another injectable or oral steroid) but epiandro @900+ or a sarm like LGD or rad 150 @ 30-50mg instead of 1 andro at the typical 330-440mg dose.


I just realized you said you've already ran 1andro. If you liked it before and you felt fine with 4andro, then testosterone at TRT dose is plenty
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I ran 1-Andro and just kept increasing my stims to combat the lethargy, but that just created more problems.
4-Andro did nothing but give me high estrogen and acne.
Epi-Andro was great, but it made me shed like a husky and made me an arsehole.

My TRT is a gel/cream. So not straight up injectable testosterone. They're hesitant to prescribe that here in the UK
 
Kinda random question but any of you know where a good 1 andro supplement might be? Looks like they are all banned now and out of stock in the usual places with the exception of Chosen-1 for some reason.
 
zaareleq said:
No matter what you chose it's going to mess with the balance it took you years to achieve.
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Oh, I know. Most of the problems have been estrogen and SHBG related. But as 1-Andro is "clean" and doesn't aromatise it shouldn't be a problem.
 
Archaic_Reaper said:
Kinda random question but any of you know where a good 1 andro supplement might be? Looks like they are all banned now and out of stock in the usual places with the exception of Chosen-1 for some reason.
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I would go with alpha gainz topical 1 andro. They are a board sponsor btw and it’s available in numerous places including the alpha gainz site Just search google it
 
Can speak volumes for Alpha Gainz. Their 4-andro is EASILY the best 4andro on the market, nothing is even close
 
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