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TRT and blast

atlien2488

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So I'm 29, had test levels around 260-320 or less on a few occasions along with pretty bad symptoms. That being said, I started TRT a couple months ago at 120 mg a week and now up to 160 mg a week. I take HCG cycled on and off as well as arimidex at 0.5 2x a week. (went up from .25 twice a week before increasing TRT dose) Might also switch to Arimidex EOD at a lower dose.

If I wanted to take more test for a couple of months to make some gains, what would be a good amount for the best gains while not getting terrible sides and suggested protocol? I was thinking 400 a week w/ 750 iu hcg a week and try to keep arimidex around the same amount or go up to .5 three times a week.

Also, hypothetically, if I tried coming off TRT at some point which I probably wont, does it make a difference whether you are shut down on a TRT dose or shut down on a higher dose in terms of gaining back natural production? Or is the main thing the increase in health issues like high blood pressure and potential blood clots you could get from a super physiological dose....
 
400-500mg would be a good initial blast, you could even add a mild oral kicker if you felt like it. You’d definitely need to up ur adex dose, maybe .5mg eod as a starting point. I doubt that blasting would make it any harder to come off because your body will be shutdown for an extended amount of time regardless, due to the trt. And yes, the main concern would just be the health issues, which shouldn’t be too much for test only to my understanding. You’d probably want to donate blood before and after cycle. How long are you planning on running it?
 
Gonna prolly do something short like 8 weeks. Yeah im gonna run ostarine and mk677 with it for joint support and some hardening hopefully since im gonna be recomping for the most part.....adex is pretty strong for me , .5 shuts down my e2 pretty hard so hopefully i dont have to take much more. Gonna get some bloods prolly a month in and see how im doin on e2 and lipids
 
atlien2488 said:
Gonna prolly do something short like 8 weeks. Yeah im gonna run ostarine and mk677 with it for joint support and some hardening hopefully since im gonna be recomping for the most part.....adex is pretty strong for me , .5 shuts down my e2 pretty hard so hopefully i dont have to take much more. Gonna get some bloods prolly a month in and see how im doin on e2 and lipids
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You’d want prop for 8 weeks. If you’re going to use cyp or enan, aim for 12.
 
People always recommend test for first cycles. But it 5a reduces and causes dht related hair loss in most, and can cause estrogen issues as well.
I'd rather see like 250 test with 300 NPP/ 50mg anavar/ 300mg EQ depending on cycle length. Nobody likes hair loss and nobody likes to repeatedly crash their E2 trying to get it dialed in from being on a ****load of test. 250 Test 300NPP should be stronger than 500 test and will bring a lot less side effects.

Just my opinion.

I agree with donating blood.
 
RickyBlobby said:
People always recommend test for first cycles. But it 5a reduces and causes dht related hair loss in most, and can cause estrogen issues as well.
I'd rather see like 250 test with 300 NPP/ 50mg anavar/ 300mg EQ depending on cycle length. Nobody likes hair loss and nobody likes to repeatedly crash their E2 trying to get it dialed in from being on a ****load of test. 250 Test 300NPP should be stronger than 500 test and will bring a lot less side effects.

Just my opinion.

I agree with donating blood.
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Yup!!!
It would be stronger and better in a lot of ways.
 
Winny really shines if you have low BF. If you are relatively high BF anavar may be a better choice as it targets fat cells directly. Or so I hear.
 
Yeah i heard its easier on your liver too.....im prolly 18 or 19 percent bodyfat so anavar might be the move. Im by no means ripped at the moment.
 
Also, if i start up hcg again at my normal 750 to 1000 iu, do i need to drop the amount if i increase the other compounds? Thx
 
Not sure about the HCG. You may want to consider a longer cycle though like 16 weeks test C, EQ and anavar. All moderately dosed. Even at 25mg....good anavar will yield some good results.But, that kinda weight doesn't come off overnight.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Not sure about the HCG. You may want to consider a longer cycle though like 16 weeks test C, EQ and anavar. All moderately dosed. Even at 25mg....good anavar will yield some good results.But, that kinda weight doesn't come off overnight.
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yeah the more i read about it, the more im inclined to go longer. Lastly, I forgot to mention I'm taking ostarine for joints and healing. Super mild but still a factor I believe. I read that it can compete for androgen receptors with test but I'm not sure how much weight that holds. You think i should keep it in the mix?
 
I wouldn't waste money on osta if you are running var

And contrary to popular belief you can run var for a long time, it is not very toxic at all. I wouldn't be scared to run it 3-4 months at a time at a moderate dose (25-50mg/day)
 
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