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tribulus for helping shutdown?

zcol94 said:
natural selection is meant for the weak to die off, like I said at this point it's basically obsolete, but having clogged arteries although not "normal" nowadays would have been normal back when natural selection played any sort of role in humanity(pre modern medicine) If you have to take meds of any form then that is taking you out of your normal, natural selection chose you to die of whatever ailment you have, but now we have medicine, and medicine is a luxury, if you understand yet then you don't understand natural selection (survival of the fittest) at all, I'm done here this is so beyond the point of this thread
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I'm glad you're done with it because your comments make very little sense. If you're not on TRT then you really don't need to be on this forum.
 
Really what I said had nothing to do with trt, it's all things we learned in science class in middle school, but obviously it's been a while so I can understand why you've forgotten the basics of human evolution
 
jbryand101b said:
People can function with low test.
They did so for thousands of years before hrt came along.
That's nature.

What is normal for a person's natural physiology is unique to them.
There is no one size fits all, everyone is unique.
The general population is a generalization of what is normal for most people.
Getting on trt makes you closer to what most other guys your age are at.

Trt is a luxury. It isn't necessary for living a healthy good life.

You get to tamper with what nature put you at because you have the money to afford to do so.

It is just another step in getting rid of natural selection.
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In the past, we know men's hormone levels were higher. What we do to ourselves because of work related stress, not eating right, sleeping right, polluted environment, medications, etc.... that's causing a lot of this not so much nature.. because of medical technology we can do something about it. And money, etc... low T is a medical condition. It seems age related reduction in testosterone- (something that is "normal") isn't considered low T if within range for your age group...
 
That is actually a good post, but they don't define test levels based on age groups. The range is generally based on 18-70 or 25-70 yo age ranges, depending on lab company, which is why it needs to be address based on labs AND symptoms. Just because someone falls into "normal" range doesn't mean it is ideal or normal for them as the age range is so wide spread. There is a new lab that does run a 25-44 yo range, but you still need to treat symptoms.
 
sammpedd88 said:
I'm glad you're done with it because your comments make very little sense. If you're not on TRT then you really don't need to be on this forum.
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Anti aging is a sub forum in the anabolics section.
And numerous men on trt post questions and seek advice on the anabolic forum, no one shuns them or tells them to leave, what's next, you going to round up all the guys not on trt and put us in special "camps" for our own safety?
 
jbryand101b said:
Anti aging is a sub forum in the anabolics section. And numerous men on trt post questions and seek advice on the anabolic forum, no one shuns them or tells them to leave, what's next, you going to round up all the guys not on trt and put us in special "camps" for our own safety?
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Are your feelings still hurt?
 
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