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Trestelone/DermaTr3st vs Proviron

jp_x_type said:
I admit i was stupid to underestimate trest. I made a mistake in that i didnt plan the post cycle correctly and basically went with how i felt and not with how i should have in order to get my hpta back up and running (to be honest i do not feel suppressed but i guess youre better safe than sorry). but i will make up for it. I have been in the bb scene for over a decade and training since i was a kid. have been into supplements for 15 years, but im pretty new to phs, so please bare with me as i am not mr know it all nor do i ever pretend to be so. I made some newbie mistakes, But there is no need to offend me either, mr smont.

So i stopped the trest and have decided to run my pct for an additional 4 weeks.
I started nolva and will do 20/20/10/10
Im not sure if i should continue running the AIs alongside the serm or if i should save those for when i run the next cycle, in a proper fashion this time...

Would just like to thank those who offered help in an educated manner. Im still alive and feeling great. I'll learn from my mistakes. Thanks

Ps dma, i'll be sure to send you the bottles of dermatrest and halo25 so you can safely dispose of them. Next year AFTER i use them. Gotta love those labels, eh? Lolz
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A little tough love goes a long way sometimes. Good to know it's not always wasted.

Why don't you pop back in before you run that Trest and Halo and get some pointers on how to set it up along with your pct. You'll be set before you start!!!
 
jp_x_type said:
I admit i was stupid to underestimate trest. I made a mistake in that i didnt plan the post cycle correctly and basically went with how i felt and not with how i should have in order to get my hpta back up and running (to be honest i do not feel suppressed but i guess youre better safe than sorry). but i will make up for it. I have been in the bb scene for over a decade and training since i was a kid. have been into supplements for 15 years, but im pretty new to phs, so please bare with me as i am not mr know it all nor do i ever pretend to be so. I made some newbie mistakes, But there is no need to offend me either, mr smont.

So i stopped the trest and have decided to run my pct for an additional 4 weeks.
I started nolva and will do 20/20/10/10
Im not sure if i should continue running the AIs alongside the serm or if i should save those for when i run the next cycle, in a proper fashion this time...

Would just like to thank those who offered help in an educated manner. Im still alive and feeling great. I'll learn from my mistakes. Thanks

Ps dma, i'll be sure to send you the bottles of dermatrest and halo25 so you can safely dispose of them. Next year AFTER i use them. Gotta love those labels, eh? Lolz
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Good stuff here! We all have to learn somewhere, as none of us are born with the knowledge we possess. You were just a wee bit behind the curve on this one, lol.

At the end of the day, the only thing we can do with our mistakes is learn from them. They aren't good for anything else really.

Nolva or clomid is fine. They work a bit differently but should both get you to where you need to be. As far as the AI goes, how much Exemestane have you been taking. So, what dosage and how often?
 
Hey quick question on the topic of trest. I know it is a documented fact that trest reduces your natural test production. But while reading up on trest I read that one of the reasons that they were looking at this compound was due to the ease of recovery that it happened when you came off. What truth ( if any) is there to that hypothesis?
 
McCrew530 said:
Hey quick question on the topic of trest. I know it is a documented fact that trest reduces your natural test production. But while reading up on trest I read that one of the reasons that they were looking at this compound was due to the ease of recovery that it happened when you came off. What truth ( if any) is there to that hypothesis?
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Recovery is very easy for me from trest but there are plenty of people out there that will tell you recovery is very difficult from trest. This aspect is very different from user to user.
 
My joints are beginning to ache again with .5mg adex eod even after bumping trest to 75mg. I guess I'm just not prone to methyl estrogen compared to AIs
 
Toren
Re exemestane, 25 mg twice weekly. Should i continue using it while on nolva? I also use letrone @ 2 caps ed 5x weekly, and inhibit-e at the reccomended dose. Thanks
 
Stop taking the otc AI'S
Taper town your dosage of nolva and Exemstane and run the AI for two or three weeks past your serm to prevent rebound
 
Ok thanks. So im all set for a good pct now, right? Im also taking a **** ton of liver, bp/circulation, lj100 and general health supps so im covered in that aspect as well. Thanks for the help evryone. Been two days on the correct pct now
 
Nolva and exemestane
Nac, ala sustain and narla, tudca, ppc, cycle assist
Prolactin and sleep aids b6, ldopa, gaba, and adaptogenic herbs
Liver health herbs andrographis, artichoke, olive leaf, dandelion, milk thistle, meriva and bcm turmeric
Lj100, sustain alpha
 
Seems like all your essentials are covered. I know you started the Trest to combat the lack of motivation and intensity in pct, so sometimes all you need to get some of that going is a good pre-workout and a natural product or 2. Like some ArA, Ep1c Unleashed, or DermaStrength (laxogenin). These things can add to a little extra pump and endurance in the gym, which falls off a bit at the beginning of pct.
 
It seems the guys in here have you covered. I'd also recommend dropping the Exemstane down to 12.5mg E3D or even E4D. You've been taking 3 AI's so no need to overdo it. As was mentioned, just run it out past you SERM for a couple of weeks to be safe. You've been on a hormonal rollercoaster so keeping the AI in the loop at a low dose may be the best bet.
 
Looks good man that should have you covered
Possibly consider bumping the nolva up for the first well due to the trest in your system wanting to aromatize. No need to go higher than 30 or 40 for a few days
 
Oh yea I forgot... Oh maybe the herbal supplement DIM would work to!
 
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