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How strong is it. I been reading about it and it's saying that I shouldn't take it for beginners
 
vitali said:
How strong is it. I been reading about it and it's saying that I shouldn't take it for beginners
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Stuffs strong. Absolutely nothing compares AAS wise. I wouldn't recommend it to a beginner. Just the sides alone may be too much for a first time cycle.
 
My advice is to start with something a little easier on your body. Have to agree superbeast668 some pretty rough side effects. As far as quality by far one of my staples.
 
Yeah that's what I was told by many. I'm 33 now but look 23 still lol anyways is it good to take after so many years or??
 
vitali said:
Yeah that's what I was told by many. I'm 33 now but look 23 still lol anyways is it good to take after so many years or??
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Is this the first time u have eever run anything?
 
vitali said:
Sadly it is haha. I feel like I'm old now cuz in starTing late
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I agree start with some test....see how the body reacts....maybe stack some Decca or dbol....if u are good after that...u can journey into tren....believe me when I say tren is fantastic.....but it can have some rough side effects
 
BigBoyMuscle said:
I agree start with some test....see how the body reacts....maybe stack some Decca or dbol....if u are good after that...u can journey into tren....believe me when I say tren is fantastic.....but it can have some rough side effects
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EQ even though it wrecks me with anxiety in the first few weeks is quickly becoming a favorite. Fully agree on tren though. I waited a few years to venture down that road.
 
There's a lot of info on tren. Being in the 30's test maybe just as beneficial for you. Start at that and see how you do and you can always add it in later on.
 
superbeast668 said:
EQ even though it wrecks me with anxiety in the first few weeks is quickly becoming a favorite. Fully agree on tren though. I waited a few years to venture down that road.
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I liked EQ as well. Good advice but agree with anxiety issue mine stops about 10 days in
 
Don't run tren ace without test!
 
Wow bros thank you so much I jus wanna get huge again. I was only on over the counter supps and eating right. Now I have 0 paitinace and wanna get at it now! If any of you guys can PM me like some have already, give me the best of the best advice to start as of today! Thanks guys I hella appriciate each of you!
 
vitali said:
Wow bros thank you so much I jus wanna get huge again. I was only on over the counter supps and eating right. Now I have 0 paitinace and wanna get at it now! If any of you guys can PM me like some have already, give me the best of the best advice to start as of today! Thanks guys I hella appriciate each of you!
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Tren is not a steroid for beginners. If your goal is to get huge as you just said, then there are plenty of other AAS's that can help you without the need of all of the side effects of Tren. It's normally used as the main cutting cycle AAS or a complimentary in a bulking (Anabolics 2006).

Start small, you never know how you respond to these things, you may gain some muscle and end of being insane with boobs. And trust me, if you run Epistane correctly...you WILL be satified no doubt(if you execute properly).

Buy all the needed stuff for an Epistane cycle, and run it 4 weeks, with a 4-week PCT.

Also, all this stuff will do nothing but hurt you unless you are REALLY READY to do this...this means DIET and TRAINING. If you are NOT consistent with this without AAS currently, then I'd suggest waiting until you get into a solid habit of eating healthy and gym.

Also, seems like you're a bit newer to AM. Do a LOT of reading on your own.

May also want to list some more specifics to your exactly goals: bigger only? loose significant fat + bigger? etc. etc. How much weight? how fast?
 
As everyone else has said run a test cycle first, then maybe play around with some other aas but wait a while to run tren. I'm on week 6 of a tren e cycle and I can honestly say that the sides are alot more noticeable on tren than on any of the other cycles I've ran. Are the sides as bad as everyone says? Well ...I guess it depends. Some days I don't notice any sides, then some days I can't sleep a solid 2 hours straight, I'm extremely hot, and without medicinal assistance I wouldn't be able to hold an erection long enough to get it in...lol and busting a nut is almost out of the question ( my wife thinks I'm the man who can go forever lately but I just can't bust a nut Damn it! ). Oh yeah and cardio sucks because I'm winded often. It's tolerable to me but you might want to take advantage of easy gains with simple stuff before jumping in to this.
 
Sounds like u picked the right avatar name m8 "overworked " lol . Are u running test with the tren ? If not u need to be . Sounds like u need to adjust ur dosage of test ( if thats in ur cycle ) so u can get staying power . Yeah it will turn u into a porn star , its hours of fun for those involved . I'd say play with ur test dosage as not everyone can do trt dose test & higher tren , some can . Depends on the person . Ace is better imo quicker to leave ur system if sides do ur head in .
 
overworked said:
As everyone else has said run a test cycle first, then maybe play around with some other aas but wait a while to run tren. I'm on week 6 of a tren e cycle and I can honestly say that the sides are alot more noticeable on tren than on any of the other cycles I've ran. Are the sides as bad as everyone says? Well ...I guess it depends. Some days I don't notice any sides, then some days I can't sleep a solid 2 hours straight, I'm extremely hot, and without medicinal assistance I wouldn't be able to hold an erection long enough to get it in...lol and busting a nut is almost out of the question ( my wife thinks I'm the man who can go forever lately but I just can't bust a nut Damn it! ). Oh yeah and cardio sucks because I'm winded often. It's tolerable to me but you might want to take advantage of easy gains with simple stuff before jumping in to this.
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And the night sweats! Middle of winter and you have the covers soaked through! Had to buy a new bed set after my last run last winter. Tren is great but it needs to be respected
 
bigbadwolff said:
Sounds like u picked the right avatar name m8 "overworked " lol . Are u running test with the tren ? If not u need to be . Sounds like u need to adjust ur dosage of test ( if thats in ur cycle ) so u can get staying power . Yeah it will turn u into a porn star , its hours of fun for those involved . I'd say play with ur test dosage as not everyone can do trt dose test & higher tren , some can . Depends on the person . Ace is better imo quicker to leave ur system if sides do ur head in .
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Yes I'm running test. Every cycle I run has test as a base plus I'm normally on trt. Current cycle is 400 tren 200 test per week split every 3rd day. I'll give it a try bumping my test up though. Thx
 
Do you think double my test? That would be 400 tren e and 400 test c , plus I'm adding winny in starting this week @ 50 mg per day. Sorry to hijack the thread.
 
What do you guys know about tren raising the ALT liver enzyme? From what I've seen is that tren shouldn't affect the liver very much at all. I got bloodwork a couple weeks ago (6th week of tren).

ALT is up 40 points from my pre blast bloodwork. I haven't touched any orals this cycle. Also am experiencing very little sides. No insomnia or serious rage. Some slight depression but I've struggled with that on and off for awhile now.

My gains are unreal so far. Strength is through the roof. Veins and body fat loss as well.

500 test E
1g tren E
 
Yea when running prohormones its best to just wait. You dont want to start too earlier and risk the chance of screwing something up.

If you do decide to do prohormones tho i would suggest just doing a one compound prohormone and make sure you get everything you need, like pct, before you start.

This will walk you through what you need and give you some options if you decide to try it.
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Boom^. Think he might want to looking into the real real tren. But that is a good start. Don't forgot supports to help with prolactin like caper, prami, or OTC method sns inhibit p
 
overworked said:
Do you think double my test? That would be 400 tren e and 400 test c , plus I'm adding winny in starting this week @ 50 mg per day. Sorry to hijack the thread.
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I'd be running 600-1000 test
 
I'm just not well educated (obviously) so I don't have anyone like you guys around me to put me on game an lace my shoes. I really wanna lose some fat and bulk up then get lean and ripped. If that's possible an makes sense. I feel like I'm a laughing stock right now hahaha anyways I been reading all your replies and been taking notes. Not sure if they're the right notes but I think I have the basics and gist of ****. Anyways my diet isn't the greatest but I don't get hella fat. I think my genetics and bloodline of ethnicities in me help a lot too lol. Anyone here from NorCal or the Sacramento area?!
 
By the way I APPRICIATE RESPECT AND THANK EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU GENTLEMEN FOE THE ADVISE!!!!
 
I also don't wanna take anything that's gonna shrink my dick or nutts but I heard the sack shrinks till you're off a cycle or whatever. Sorry if that was too upfront but haha I'm pretty great in that department and def don't wanna screw things up! Lol
 
They say test shrinks your nuts but I've been on test for over a year straight and it's not a very noticeable difference. I don't know if there is any truth to aas making your dick smaller or if it is just a myth. I've ran alot of cycles and I haven't lost any size there. Also using HCG with your cycle is supposed to help prevent the shrinking nut thing as well as keeping your nuts active.
 
vitali said:
I also don't wanna take anything that's gonna shrink my dick or nutts but I heard the sack shrinks till you're off a cycle or whatever. Sorry if that was too upfront but haha I'm pretty great in that department and def don't wanna screw things up! Lol
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any exogenous male sex hormone will cause htpa shut down and testicular atrophy/shrinkage. 100% unavoidable. as long as you're using real gear your balls will shrink. hcg and clomid will help maintain size but really who gives a sh*t how big your balls are? you're not stuffing them in the chick.

as far as your penis shrinking, dude you need to do a lot of research. that sounds like the horror stories they tell you in highschool health. could not be farther from the truth.

as far as drugs and diet, dude learn to eat first. diet is like 70% of the equation. drugs are 10%. gym is 20%. drugs really aint worth a damn if you're not eating proper.
 
Ran tren, dick is still there and works great! Balls too. These should probably be some of your least concerns when jumping on aas. No one is laughing at you, we are all here to learn and share knowledge with each other
 
You'll be fine coming off tren with nolva clomid cel pct assist reduce xt and aromasin. maybe hcg mid cycle.
 
700 of tren now tats gotta be a fun dose., hows the sides ? Im doing 1ml EOD tren 100 by meditech, i got more sides ( night sweats hot flushes & agro as f**k ) on tren 75 different brand though .. The mrs thinks im a.porn star
 
superbeast668 said:
x2. If your having problems with wood and your caber/prami are legit run it like a DECA cycle 2:1. More test always cured DECA dick.
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I pushed my test up to 400 and it did the trick. After doing that and adding in winny , I finally got to experience the real tren night sweats....need new sheets soon. Lol. A few weeks left of my cycle and I'm truly impressed with the results thus far but I did pull or strain something in my neck last night and I hope I doesn't slow me down for long. Thx for advice
 
Night sweats make it real fun to get out of bed, especially since it's cold out! I gotta try running it during the summer
 
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