Xerxes
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Its been a while since I've posted, but I figured I would share my trenavar experience, and I would appreciate an input. I'll be as succinct as possible.
I'm an experienced user of PH's and AAS. I've ran two trenavar cycles in the past year or so; the first cycle was 60mg straight through for 10 weeks, while the second, which I stopped was going to be a 12 week cycle. I've ran tren enanthate and tren acetate in the past, and the only sides I've ever really experienced were crazy night-sweats, some insane dreams, a massive increase in size and some wicked vascularity.
I was in the process of running my second solo cycle of trenavar, several days ago, when I experienced the most horrific bout of sides; I'll elaborate more below. A buddy of mine recently returned from Afghanistan, and to make a long story short, he decided that he was gonna marry his girl; it was a real spur of the moment thing. So needless to say, I ended up drinking, rather heavily, on my trenavar cycle. I've never really drank on any cycle before, including test only cycles, and I rarely drink even when off, and I figured that because trenavar apparently possesses such low hepatotoxicity that I would be fine, and I was until the next morning. After this heavy night of drinking I somehow work up early, and refreshed, and in all honesty I was probably still a little drunk. I went about my daily routine of eating and popping my morning pills (including my first dose of trenavar), and everything seemed fine; also I was taking 60mg of trenavar per day, split evenly 3 times a day at 20mg each dosing. Then about 4-5 hours later, perhaps when the trenavar converted into "active trenbolone," I began to experience severe and excruciating shortness of breath.
I've heard of "tren cough", but I've never experienced it, even with injectables, and I am aware that the fat burning properties of trenbolone, specifically its ability to increase prostaglandins, can apparently cause some bronchoconstriction, but I was completely unprepared for the severity of this incident. I suffered in agony for 3 days, literally gasping for air. My heart then started to beat strangely and erratically, on the second day, and I was extremely fatigued, largely because I couldn't sleep for more than an hour or two, before waking up gasping for air; I thought that I was having a cardiac infarction and nearly went to my local ER. I also experienced shifts in my consciousness; mainly I just felt like I was going to pass out, even while doing nothing. I also experienced a bit of myocardial angina, or at least that's what I assumed it to be.
Anyway, I am not sure why or how exactly this happened. I just had a extremely thorough physical, an EKG and stress test 2 months ago, and everything was fine, plus I have no lung problems, etc. so I am a bit flabbergasted about why these sides occurred. I just wanted to post this to get some feedback, and see if anyone else has experienced these sides from trenavar; my internet and form search came up pretty empty, with regards to others experiencing these kind of sides on trenavar. Also, I wanted to get this info out there, and how I treated it, in case this ever happens to anyone else.
I did want to note that I ended up first trying benadryl, don't know why, but that it didn't work, but it did help me to sleep. I ended up using Ketotifen in conjunction with an albuterol inhaler, and melatonin, after doing some pubmed-type research, and this did the trick. My lungs miraculously, and almost instantly cleared up within a few hours (upon waking up after a desperately needed 5 hour nap), and my heart beat returned to normal (presumably because my lungs were functioning properly again). I did however drop the trenavar and promptly initiated my PCT. After feeling like I was literally going to die for 3 days I don't think I can ever touch the stuff again, which sucks, because its a great product, but also the devil.
Any thoughts?
I'm an experienced user of PH's and AAS. I've ran two trenavar cycles in the past year or so; the first cycle was 60mg straight through for 10 weeks, while the second, which I stopped was going to be a 12 week cycle. I've ran tren enanthate and tren acetate in the past, and the only sides I've ever really experienced were crazy night-sweats, some insane dreams, a massive increase in size and some wicked vascularity.
I was in the process of running my second solo cycle of trenavar, several days ago, when I experienced the most horrific bout of sides; I'll elaborate more below. A buddy of mine recently returned from Afghanistan, and to make a long story short, he decided that he was gonna marry his girl; it was a real spur of the moment thing. So needless to say, I ended up drinking, rather heavily, on my trenavar cycle. I've never really drank on any cycle before, including test only cycles, and I rarely drink even when off, and I figured that because trenavar apparently possesses such low hepatotoxicity that I would be fine, and I was until the next morning. After this heavy night of drinking I somehow work up early, and refreshed, and in all honesty I was probably still a little drunk. I went about my daily routine of eating and popping my morning pills (including my first dose of trenavar), and everything seemed fine; also I was taking 60mg of trenavar per day, split evenly 3 times a day at 20mg each dosing. Then about 4-5 hours later, perhaps when the trenavar converted into "active trenbolone," I began to experience severe and excruciating shortness of breath.
I've heard of "tren cough", but I've never experienced it, even with injectables, and I am aware that the fat burning properties of trenbolone, specifically its ability to increase prostaglandins, can apparently cause some bronchoconstriction, but I was completely unprepared for the severity of this incident. I suffered in agony for 3 days, literally gasping for air. My heart then started to beat strangely and erratically, on the second day, and I was extremely fatigued, largely because I couldn't sleep for more than an hour or two, before waking up gasping for air; I thought that I was having a cardiac infarction and nearly went to my local ER. I also experienced shifts in my consciousness; mainly I just felt like I was going to pass out, even while doing nothing. I also experienced a bit of myocardial angina, or at least that's what I assumed it to be.
Anyway, I am not sure why or how exactly this happened. I just had a extremely thorough physical, an EKG and stress test 2 months ago, and everything was fine, plus I have no lung problems, etc. so I am a bit flabbergasted about why these sides occurred. I just wanted to post this to get some feedback, and see if anyone else has experienced these sides from trenavar; my internet and form search came up pretty empty, with regards to others experiencing these kind of sides on trenavar. Also, I wanted to get this info out there, and how I treated it, in case this ever happens to anyone else.
I did want to note that I ended up first trying benadryl, don't know why, but that it didn't work, but it did help me to sleep. I ended up using Ketotifen in conjunction with an albuterol inhaler, and melatonin, after doing some pubmed-type research, and this did the trick. My lungs miraculously, and almost instantly cleared up within a few hours (upon waking up after a desperately needed 5 hour nap), and my heart beat returned to normal (presumably because my lungs were functioning properly again). I did however drop the trenavar and promptly initiated my PCT. After feeling like I was literally going to die for 3 days I don't think I can ever touch the stuff again, which sucks, because its a great product, but also the devil.
Any thoughts?
