Make sure you take the time to really research tren before deciding if it's right for you. It's definitely not a beginner compound. The side effects are really hard to deal with for a lot of people. It's also very hard on the body. It's pretty common to get night sweats, shortness of breath, insomnia, chest tightness, mood changes/irritability, tren cough, tren dick, etc. It's definitely no joke. That being said, it's extremely effective as a cutting agent. It's nutrient partitioning is pretty impressive. I personally think you don't need as much as most people run. I've seen good results on as little as 20 to 30 mg a day. I tried all the esters, including base, and hex is by far my favorite. in fact it's probably the only tren that I'll ever use again. I was once told by someone very experienced that they would never use tren unless they're preparing for a show. At the time I thought that was silly, but now I totally agree. I personally like primo way more. It's like baby tren with no sides.