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Tren sides...lower endurance???

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PHWSSJ

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I have read many people experiencing lowered levels of endurance while taking tren.
I have also read that people have had no such side affect.

Can tren actually lower levels of endurance or can this be from something else or a combination of other factors?

And if tren indeed does hinder endurance..what does it actually do to the body that causes this side effect??

If anyone knows please share...
 
Speaking solely of my own limited experience I would tend to say it is more of a perceived notion than fact. Tren will increase your strength,which is more taxing on all your systems so you might feel more winded but you're probably using a lot more weight and it stands to reason (more effort requires more oxygen & blood).
 
curqleez said:
Made me winded just walking around
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Ya I have read that and from personal testimonials of friends..they would get winded walking up a flight of stairs.
Some said they would get winded but it didnt affect their stamina..they could still keep going it was just mentally harder... One of my buddies said he could still run his 6 min mile when he was taking tren but ..he said that running a ten minute mile felt the same as running a six minute mile and he didnt know why!


So none of the mods vets or experienced guys know why this happens ..why people experience these things while on trenbolone ...if tren does something to physiologically to the body.... ........ANYONE ???????
 
I notice it.. I get winded easy on tren. shortness of breath.. could be beginning signs of hypertension perhaps?
 
Ubiquitous said:
I notice it.. I get winded easy on tren. shortness of breath.. could be beginning signs of hypertension perhaps?
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so you think its hypertension?

Wow... that is scarry!
That sh1t is bad for your heart...

anyone else have an Idea....
 
OK so I did a little accidental "research" on the topic and I think this is worth passing along because it makes sense to me.
Apparently there is a condition that a lot of drug addicts die from that was an eye opener for me, so to those bros who like your Tren I urge you to read on. I am paraphrasing from memory: I guess it's fairly common to see drug users die of a condition that is the result of crushing up tablets and mixing them with water and then injecting them. What happens (over time) is the microscopic particles that would normally be passed through the digestive system end up in the lung tissue encased and scarring the lungs,rendering them less effective. These are the fillers and cellulose and other god knows what stuff they put in the tablets to hold them together. So if you are making your tren through the means of good old Finaplex ,it stands to reason the effects you are feeling are real and permanent. Find a good powder supplier and leave the cattle pellets alone,or risk clogging up your lungs with pellet leftovers. That was all the convincing I needed. So it's my speculation that a lot of bros who experience the shortness of breathe are getting tren from Fina,which I never really thought was the greatest of ideas anyway but what is it they say? Necessity is the mother of invention. So I will leave it at that if you are getting your tren from Fina this could be the answer,if you're not then I don't have a clue,but this made sense to me.
 
wikked1 said:
OK so I did a little accidental "research" on the topic and I think this is worth passing along because it makes sense to me.
Apparently there is a condition that a lot of drug addicts die from that was an eye opener for me, so to those bros who like your Tren I urge you to read on. I am paraphrasing from memory: I guess it's fairly common to see drug users die of a condition that is the result of crushing up tablets and mixing them with water and then injecting them. What happens (over time) is the microscopic particles that would normally be passed through the digestive system end up in the lung tissue encased and scarring the lungs,rendering them less effective. These are the fillers and cellulose and other god knows what stuff they put in the tablets to hold them together. So if you are making your tren through the means of good old Finaplex ,it stands to reason the effects you are feeling are real and permanent. Find a good powder supplier and leave the cattle pellets alone,or risk clogging up your lungs with pellet leftovers. That was all the convincing I needed. So it's my speculation that a lot of bros who experience the shortness of breathe are getting tren from Fina,which I never really thought was the greatest of ideas anyway but what is it they say? Necessity is the mother of invention. So I will leave it at that if you are getting your tren from Fina this could be the answer,if you're not then I don't have a clue,but this made sense to me.
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you don't have to worry about fillers and the like if the procedure is done correctly and through a whatman filter. if it were true that fillers were still in the final product from a fina kit, then shortness of breath would probably be the least of your worries.
 
wikked1 said:
OK so I did a little accidental "research" on the topic and I think this is worth passing along because it makes sense to me.
Apparently there is a condition that a lot of drug addicts die from that was an eye opener for me, so to those bros who like your Tren I urge you to read on. I am paraphrasing from memory: I guess it's fairly common to see drug users die of a condition that is the result of crushing up tablets and mixing them with water and then injecting them. What happens (over time) is the microscopic particles that would normally be passed through the digestive system end up in the lung tissue encased and scarring the lungs,rendering them less effective. These are the fillers and cellulose and other god knows what stuff they put in the tablets to hold them together. So if you are making your tren through the means of good old Finaplex ,it stands to reason the effects you are feeling are real and permanent. Find a good powder supplier and leave the cattle pellets alone,or risk clogging up your lungs with pellet leftovers. That was all the convincing I needed. So it's my speculation that a lot of bros who experience the shortness of breathe are getting tren from Fina,which I never really thought was the greatest of ideas anyway but what is it they say? Necessity is the mother of invention. So I will leave it at that if you are getting your tren from Fina this could be the answer,if you're not then I don't have a clue,but this made sense to me.
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Wow. That's some scary stuff! I'll follow this discussion for sure.

Although I doubt that the specific endurance probs reported by tren afiscionados is directly related to this phenomenon, it is a real concern based on what you're saying, wik. And I could be totally wrong about that, (possibly in total denial...) ;)
 
I've used ugl tren enth and it does the same thing so I don't think it has anything to do with fillers or cattle pellets.

I got extremely winded when going on my afternoon runs. It definitley decreased my endurance. My friend who was running the same cycle as me noted the impact on his running as well.
 
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Jblake said:
I've used ugl tren enth and it does the same thing so I don't think it has anything to do with fillers or cattle pellets.

I got extremely winded when going on my afternoon runs. It definitley decreased my endurance. My friend who was running the same cycle as me noted the impact on his running as well.
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did you notice your endurance return soon after you stopped using the tren?
 
I thinks the hypertension theory makes the most sense....

How would this stuff go from your glutes and get stuck in your lungs??????

I have asked this question on a few boards and have tried to do some reaserch and still nobody knows.. this is crazy!
 
Most AAS tend to lower endurance. EQ may be one of the only exceptions to this. For me, tren really does lower endurance but not too much. I mountain bike and when using tren I most definately do suck wind....tren is a powerful and strange drug.
 
wikked1 said:
OK so I did a little accidental "research" on the topic and I think this is worth passing along because it makes sense to me.
Apparently there is a condition that a lot of drug addicts die from that was an eye opener for me, so to those bros who like your Tren I urge you to read on. I am paraphrasing from memory: I guess it's fairly common to see drug users die of a condition that is the result of crushing up tablets and mixing them with water and then injecting them. What happens (over time) is the microscopic particles that would normally be passed through the digestive system end up in the lung tissue encased and scarring the lungs,rendering them less effective. These are the fillers and cellulose and other god knows what stuff they put in the tablets to hold them together. So if you are making your tren through the means of good old Finaplex ,it stands to reason the effects you are feeling are real and permanent. Find a good powder supplier and leave the cattle pellets alone,or risk clogging up your lungs with pellet leftovers. That was all the convincing I needed. So it's my speculation that a lot of bros who experience the shortness of breathe are getting tren from Fina,which I never really thought was the greatest of ideas anyway but what is it they say? Necessity is the mother of invention. So I will leave it at that if you are getting your tren from Fina this could be the answer,if you're not then I don't have a clue,but this made sense to me.
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I.V. drug users tend to mix up their junk in a spoon, heat it over a lighter to sterilize it, then shoot it directly into a vein. They don't run it through a filter. Any "cut" put in their junk, could clog up their lungs, I would imagine. Uhockey mentioned something about this in one of his logs. Guys would crush up oxycodone, or some other prescription downer, mix with water, and shoot directly into their veins... methylcelullose, talc, bacteria, and all. Let's face it... junkie's aren't the most health conscious people. Any junkies out there, please correct me if I'm wrong.

From what I've read for cattle pellet conversions, the mixture is always run through a very fine filter. The filter is so fine, it can filter out bacteria. Do a search, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

-Tinytoad
 
Yeah TinyToad..exactly.. that binder theory is crap. a 20um filter srtrains out PATHOGENS.. smaller than binder particulate. lol

Agree with BossK as well.. Once you start gaining mass/water.. your body is going to be working harder in most aspects.

I still do think there is merit to the hypertension theory as well.
 
I think it´ß smainly due to the faster met6abolsims one is experiencing with Tren.

shjortness of breeath coughing, are nortmalö side-effects of either Trenbolon or injecting an oily into the body, which doesn´t need to be discussed further until there is a deeper scintific understanding of the mechanisms happening.;-)

Then again, I think it is a good agent for more stamina, with the dangers of cramping, but i dind´t see a negative effect on endurance, because when you´re thinking of it, it´s just the shortness of breath, the sweating, while doing a workout like a bad mofo, which is more intense and -at least, not noticable or significantly shorter, plus, you´re getting faster recovery and more red blood cells for free.

Of course a clean built endurance is the cornerstone for the benefits of these drugs in this manner.
 
^^^^^ agreed on the coughing during an injection part... but.. the rest didn't make much sense to me. More stamina on Tren? Not a purported effect the drug is noted for. People get winded walking up a flight of stairs.. you think they're going balls out doing this, because of the Tren? LOL.. I don't agree. sorry.
 
δm geting quite irritated on tren as a psycholgical fact of this drug, but beside of this, I rember watching me doing very long, powerful workouts, while sweating and grinning, feeling pretty damn invincable, beside of this.^^

That´s what I call stamina, even though you´re imagination may differ from your performance at this time.:woohoo:
 
Ubiquitous said:
^^^^^ agreed on the coughing during an injection part... but.. the rest didn't make much sense to me. More stamina on Tren? Not a purported effect the drug is noted for. People get winded walking up a flight of stairs.. you think they're going balls out doing this, because of the Tren? LOL.. I don't agree. sorry.
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I agree....

This doesnt explain why people get winded doing easy stuff!

Where is the fking answer?!!?!?!?!
 
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