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Tren or Epi???

TheMeatus101

TheMeatus101

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I was wondering if i should run Tren or Epistane.Tren is easier on the liver,and gives way better strength gains,but then again people say the sides are horrific.Epi gives good gains,and people say there really arent any sides,and people say it reverses gyno,but its methylated,which im not a fan of.I also heard people say Tren250 doesnt really have that many sides like regular tren.Any suggestions?
 
Why not run both? ;)
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bakerderek0 said:
Relax, I'll try to decipher this trainwreck of inaccurate statements.
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"trainwreck of inaccurate statements"?,how in the hell is anything i just said inaccurate?
 
TheMeatus101 said:
I was wondering if i should run Tren or Epistane.Tren is easier on the liver,and gives way better strength gains,but then again people say the sides are horrific.Epi gives good gains,and people say there really arent any sides,and people say it reverses gyno,but its methylated,which im not a fan of.I also heard people say Tren250 doesnt really have that many sides like regular tren.Any suggestions?
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first thing, are you talking about trenbolone, tren for short.

or are you talking about pro dienolone, the ph to dienolone, mistakenly called tren by companies suckering the uneducated for a buck?

there are side effects to all steroids, methyepiostanol, to testosterone.

epistane does not reverse gyno.

depending on whats in tren 250, will depend if it is anything like trenbolone or not.

tren 250 doesn't have that many sides as regular tren? what, do you think it is some different kind of trenbolone?

different steroids will effect everyone differently. all others can do is tell you what they experienced from them so you can know this may or may not happen to you.

tren 250 is a name of a product, not a compound. if you want to know about the compounds contained in the bottle, then you should post those compounds it contains.
 
jbryand101b said:
first thing, are you talking about trenbolone, tren for short.

or are you talking about pro dienolone, the ph to dienolone, mistakenly called tren by companies suckering the uneducated for a buck?

there are side effects to all steroids, methyepiostanol, to testosterone.

epistane does not reverse gyno.

depending on whats in tren 250, will depend if it is anything like trenbolone or not.

tren 250 doesn't have that many sides as regular tren? what, do you think it is some different kind of trenbolone?

different steroids will effect everyone differently. all others can do is tell you what they experienced from them so you can know this may or may not happen to you.

tren 250 is a name of a product, not a compound. if you want to know about the compounds contained in the bottle, then you should post those compounds it contains.
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I was asking because the usual ingredient for Tren is 19-nor,and this doesnt have 19-nor in it.Ingredients...



Active Ingredients: Estra-4, 9-Diene, TPGS 78mg Safe Methyl Process, Vitamin E 1mg, In A Base Of 267mg Safflower Oil, Gelatin 25mg
 
19-nor and Estra-4 are both pro dienelone...same sides, etc.

Dienedrone/liquidrone by AMS was also estra-4.
 
gymrat827 said:
if your going solo id go for Epistane. Tren is good for stacking.
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I would,but everybody says tren is best for strength gains,which is what im wanting,also the fact that Epi is methylated doesnt attract me,rather take something and not have to worry about bad liver damage.
 
You can make impressive gains on epistane. as for liver damage, all you need to do is take a liver support supplement and not be an idiot. By that I mean don't drink alcohol while on a methylated steroid, or take tons of ibuprofen or Tylenol. Epi is fairly mild. 40mg a day (the sweet spot alot of folks agree on) will give you pretty drastic results if you work it right. Epi does not "reverse" gyno. It does help get rid of MILD gyno, but so does a SERM, which should have been ran after your last cycle anyway. Comparing dienolone with epistane is like comparing a Ford F350 to a Chevy Camaro. While they are both vehicles, the similarity ends there. Just don't know if you have done all your research bro (and asking your gym buddies doesn't count.) Stop being so defensive and you might learn a little. We are all alpha males here so the billy bada$$ routine just doesn't hold water.
 
wilsmash4food said:
You can make impressive gains on epistane. as for liver damage, all you need to do is take a liver support supplement and not be an idiot. By that I mean don't drink alcohol while on a methylated steroid, or take tons of ibuprofen or Tylenol. Epi is fairly mild. 40mg a day (the sweet spot alot of folks agree on) will give you pretty drastic results if you work it right. Epi does not "reverse" gyno. It does help get rid of MILD gyno, but so does a SERM, which should have been ran after your last cycle anyway. Comparing dienolone with epistane is like comparing a Ford F350 to a Chevy Camaro. While they are both vehicles, the similarity ends there. Just don't know if you have done all your research bro (and asking your gym buddies doesn't count.) Stop being so defensive and you might learn a little. We are all alpha males here so the billy bada$$ routine just doesn't hold water.
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I never acted like a "billy bada$$",i just asked what was inaccurate about my statement above,thats it,but anyways,i did take a SERM a PCT last time and gains were great,its just that(and not just people at the gym)say that Tren gives the best strength gains,i could care less about looking like a pro-bodybuilder,just want the strength.
 
I personally prefer the 'Tren' products over Epistane, however, I imagine stacking them both would be awesome. I've stacked Tren and Superdrol and that was the best cycle I've ever run.
 
I've run 2 cycles of tren stacked with phera, probably my favorite cycle to run. I was running 90mgs of tren and the strength gains are through the roof. As far as side effects go, I didn't notice one bit of anything...acne/gyno/etc.
 
Hahahaha, I haven't seen an exchange like this in a while. I guess roids, sh$TTY weather and the end of football season has everyone FN pissed off at the world!! chill......

Let's answer the questions (which were answered), and continue to use this site to help each other, and answer the same questions that have already been answered ten thousand times.

I can preach; I'm an old man ;)
 
Presa said:
Hahahaha, I haven't seen an exchange like this in a while. I guess roids, sh$TTY weather and the end of football season has everyone FN pissed off at the world!! chill......

Let's answer the questions (which were answered), and continue to use this site to help each other, and answer the same questions that have already been answered ten thousand times.

I can preach; I'm an old man ;)
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Good plan:biggthumpup:
 
TheMeatus101 said:
,its just that(and not just people at the gym)say that Tren gives the best strength gains,i could care less about looking like a pro-bodybuilder,just want the strength.
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If you already know what people say, why are you asking? run the damn dienolone at 90mg with 300mg of pstanz.

if you want real strength gains, use some superdrol with your dienolone.

more gains means more sides, doesnt' matter if it's strength or size.

if your so scared of hepatotoxicity of methylated steroids, & sides from 19-nor-androgens, why dont you just drop some cash on the new andro series from primordial performance and let us all know how it goes.
 
oze said:
I personally prefer the 'Tren' products over Epistane, however, I imagine stacking them both would be awesome. I've stacked Tren and Superdrol and that was the best cycle I've ever run.
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Two of my buddys ran Spawn(Tren/Epi) and they said it was AWESOME,one of them was a little on the chubby side and lost alot of bf% also :dance:
 
remember, everything comes at a cost...often, the greater the risk, the more potential for gains! you're going to have to decide this one on your own...balancing cost vs benefit.

and, since you seem to be stuck on erase for PCT...there is not a designer out there that erase will suffice for PCT! you run a pro dienelone cycle, you better have a solid PCT!
 
delsolrob said:
remember, everything comes at a cost...often, the greater the risk, the more potential for gains! you're going to have to decide this one on your own...balancing cost vs benefit.

and, since you seem to be stuck on erase for PCT...there is not a designer out there that erase will suffice for PCT! you run a pro dienelone cycle, you better have a solid PCT!
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So im guessing Epi wont shut you down as bad as Tren?
 
TheMeatus101 said:
So im guessing Epi wont shut you down as bad as Tren?
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doesn't matter if you use epi or tren, you're going to need a solid PCT!

there are people that can get by runnign the TRS stack for epi cycles, you could also look into other OTC PCT's...but Erase is not a PCT!
 
gymrat827 said:
Epistane would be a better choice for you. Most people dont run tren solo
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Just feel like id get better strength gains with Tren,and its less liver toxic,and as far as sides,i dont get sides like most people,acne and thats about it.But ill still look into it,ill be running AI's Life Support the whole time(pre-loading it a week before also),so i guess my liver would be okay either way.
 
AS long as you follow common sense you should be fine if you are a healthy individual. Follow the guidelines on Cycle Assist or Cycle Support and you should be ok. They should have you covered :)

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