Tren Hexa & PH

gino333

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I´m going to start a tren hexa cycle(parabolin) in a few days. To be honest Im a little worried about tren sides... Then I was wondering If the tren sides can be expected are similar to x-trem(or similar tren ph products). I did a spawn cycle some time ago with no sides. My main concern is gyno, some friend advice my run this cycle without test, what do you think? My point always was run test a base of all cycles, but maybe with no estrogen presence the prolactin can´t cause problems...

Gyno cannot be formed without estrogen present. Progesterone cannot cause gyno by itself? right?
 
gino333 said:
I´m going to start a tren hexa cycle(parabolin) in a few days. To be honest Im a little worried about tren sides... Then I was wondering If the tren sides can be expected are similar to x-trem(or similar tren ph products). I did a spawn cycle some time ago with no sides. My main concern is gyno, some friend advice my run this cycle without test, what do you think? My point always was run test a base of all cycles, but maybe with no estrogen presence the prolactin can´t cause problems...

Gyno cannot be formed without estrogen present. Progesterone cannot cause gyno by itself? right?
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prolactin is i believe caused by progesterone. not having a test base in this cycle would just be stupid. test should always be a base, keeps eveyrthing running smoothly. and progesterone can cause gyno by itself. is it less likely than estrogen? yes, but it can still cause it. as for sides, there really is only one way to find out. usual tren sides include insomnia, night sweats, acne, etc...o and tren **** if u dont have test.
 
ok. I agree.. I´ll use test.

But , do you think there is any relation between tren ph sides and real tren sides??
 
tren is the only steroid that sends my gyno over the edge, meaning even if i run caber and letro i still have issues with pain and swollen nips etc
 
nosnmiveins said:
tren is the only steroid that sends my gyno over the edge, meaning even if i run caber and letro i still have issues with pain and swollen nips etc
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You Just Scare Me!

How many weeks did you run it? ace or enantathe? and how much test ? How do you recover from tren gyno?
 
gino333 said:
You Just Scare Me!

How many weeks did you run it? ace or enantathe? and how much test ? How do you recover from tren gyno?
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tren ace, 6-8 weeks i cant remember. prop/tren 100/75 eod respectively, then to 100/100.

once i stop the tren the nips are painfree, lumps are still there, but they shrink and the tissue is not as hard
 
nosnmiveins said:
tren ace, 6-8 weeks i cant remember. prop/tren 100/75 eod respectively, then to 100/100.

once i stop the tren the nips are painfree, lumps are still there, but they shrink and the tissue is not as hard
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ok. thanks for share your experience.

for you Tren worth it or not?
 
gino333 said:
ok. thanks for share your experience.

for you Tren worth it or not?
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been up to 100mg ed, and yes its worth it.

its all about quality muscle gains with tren, the strength gains are nearly impossible to keep, u might keep 50%. i may only gain 3-4lbs on a cycle including tren, but i know ive lost fat and added lean muscle
 
well, my TARGET: gain lean mass and lose bodyfat if it is possible :)

I´m doubt between test/primo/anavar or test/tren/win.

What do you think?
 
gino333 said:
1 previous cycle> 12 week sust/eq with nice lean gains.
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i doubt id step into the world of tren for a second cycle, u would also need to include HCG on ur cycle if u ran tren.

u can stick with any 2 or 3 of these compounds (1 being test e,c or p):

anavar
winstrol
primo
eq
tbol

if u have the funds, the test/primo/var cycle u proposed would be awesome for lean gains and fatloss...as long as diet is on point of course
 
nosnmiveins said:
if u have the funds, the test/primo/var cycle u proposed would be awesome for lean gains and fatloss...as long as diet is on point of course
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Perfect! then I ´ll use tren for another future cycle.

My cycle idea look like this:

Weeks 1-10: 500mgs Sustanon
Weeks 1-10: 400mgs Primo
Weeks 8-12: 40mgs ED anavar
Week 13: 40mgs ED Nolvadex
Week 14: 20mgs ED Nolvadex
Week 15 :10mgs ED Nolvadex
 
gino333 said:
Perfect! then I ´ll use tren for another future cycle.

My cycle idea look like this:

Weeks 1-10: 500mgs Sustanon
Weeks 1-10: 400mgs Primo
Weeks 8-12: 40mgs ED anavar
Week 13: 40mgs ED Nolvadex
Week 14: 20mgs ED Nolvadex
Week 15 :10mgs ED Nolvadex
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Any advice?!
 
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