Tren cycle

jonathan517

jonathan517

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4-6 week tren cycle at 70mg a week. Going to stack with 80mg of Epi I'll be keeping posted on how I feel. Probably will bump up the tren another 10mg but depending how I feel mainly.
 
JoshR said:
i hope you mean a day. I'd keep the epi around 60 and run the tren 100 minimum
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Lol obviously a day, and this isn't your average clone bud, potent stuff. U just don't up it to 100mg I'll see how I feel at 70mg for the 1 week or 2 and if I feel okay ill up it to 90mg.

Btw no PCT or SERMs. Epi or tren doesn't aromatize so it isn't needed.
 
whens the cycle starting? would be interested to see what 80mg epi would do. Subb'ed for logs if any.
 
bel1 said:
whens the cycle starting? would be interested to see what 80mg epi would do. Subb'ed for logs if any.
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Started today, waiting about 1 hour to give Epi and tren time to be in my body. But hell it's a lot of caps man 11 caps. But I'll keep posted.
 
Rodja said:
Research how freaking wrong you are. Aromatization and suppression are different topics and a lack of aromatization does not mean that a compound does not suppress the HPTA.
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Okay first of all u need to relax and go pop some deca. 2nd the products Epi not tren do NOT Aromatase and if they do then it's all on how the persons body responds to it if I do Aromatase then I'll know to run a SERM if not then it isn't necessary and neither is any other product other then the steroid/prohormone. And if you didn't know that then I don't think I need to do research it's u, cause everyone knows, every single person on this planet react different to different things and the fact that your ignorant to that shows u need research not me. I'll be posting my logs whether u like what I'm doing or not, whether my liver explodes or not what do you care ? It isn't you, I'll run my stack with or without your feedback. So if you wanna be the number of people that fall under the number of retards on this website and take a PCT and SERM for hydroxycut (sarcasm) then by all means your the retard and it's your money. Not mine. Do what u please at the end of the day ill do and run whatever I want and how I want to run it.
 
Again, what does aromatization have to do with not needing a SERM and a PCT? You're very incorrect with the position that the only time a SERM is needed is after using a compound that aromatizes.
 
Rodja said:
Again, what does aromatization have to do with not needing a SERM and a PCT? You're very incorrect with the position that the only time a SERM is needed is after using a compound that aromatizes.
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Okay man, listen you do what you have to do and ill do me. This conversation will get no where cause your pointing out facts I already know. You love and learn, and you die. You do what you have to do. Thanks for the concern.
 
Hitting the gym now. Feeling pump. Not because of Epi and tren just mentally focused lol. For those wanting to know or wondering. My training consist of what others may call over training. Just destroying whatever body parts I am doing. High volume and constant tension on the muscles. No rest maybe like 5 seconds most, reason for that is for constant tension.
 
Us ignorant? Do you know what suppression is? A serm has nothing to do with aromatization.

Get blood work post cycle then tell us you didn't need a "PCT/Serm" (nor a prolactin inhibitor since your using (I'm assuming here- a tren clone))
 
jonathan517 said:
Sure bel, Height: 5'11 Weight: 225 BF: 11% Max bench : 375 (2 reps) Max squat: 425 (2 reps) Interested in anything else lemme know.
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Pre cycle pics and blood work, and post cycle pics and blood work would be ideal
 
tyga tyga said:
Us ignorant? Do you know what suppression is? A serm has nothing to do with aromatization. Get blood work post cycle then tell us you didn't need a "PCT/Serm" (nor a prolactin inhibitor since your using (I'm assuming here- a tren clone))
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Worry about yourself what I do is what I do. Ill do it whether u like it or not. And if I mess up then oh well I'll learn from my mistakes but instead of judging and being an ass and maybe educated someone who is less wise u should teach if you know and not act like u were born with all the knowledge about drug use. Thanks for the concern, my cycle is my cycle and ill do and learn from my mistakes.
 
jonathan517 said:
Worry about yourself what I do is what I do. Ill do it whether u like it or not. And if I mess up then oh well I'll learn from my mistakes but instead of judging and being an ass and maybe educated someone who is less wise u should teach if you know and not act like u were born with all the knowledge about drug use. Thanks for the concern, my cycle is my cycle and ill do and learn from my mistakes.
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Love the close mindedness. What do you think we're trying to do? Help/educate you, or in the very least, tell you that aromatization has nothing to do with suppression. You're a "learn from my mistakes" guy lol instead of having them corrected before hand, and therefore dodging possibly more repercussions of a poorly laid out cycle... Suite yourself dude
 
CaptForest said:
Age and number of years lifting experience? what about your previous cycles?
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22 and lifting since I was 16 but really training serious past 2 years. Previous cycles have been Epi standalone cycle. 6 week cycle. A 8 week cycle of SD. A cycle of SD and Epi 8 weeks.
 
tyga tyga said:
Love the close mindedness. What do you think we're trying to do? Help/educate you, or in the very least, tell you that aromatization has nothing to do with suppression. You're a "learn from my mistakes" guy lol instead of having them corrected before hand, and therefore dodging possibly more repercussions of a poorly laid out cycle... Suite yourself dude
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Lol if you think your helping me in anyway then u might wanna reconsider your teaching skills cause all u did was insult my intelligence as if I don't know what I am doing instead of saying hey dude I would recommend blah blah blah, you went ahead and to try and make me look stupid and no I'm not close minded but on this forum I am because there are a bunch of people like you that did a few cycles got some gains and think your gods and think you know everything so you try and insult and make people feel stupid when u think they don't know what they are doing. So yea I'm close minded but I have plenty of mentors I wasn't asking for advice nor help this is a log if I wanted help I would have ask for it and I didn't. So thank you but no thank you. I'll be fine.
 
Day 1 at the gym same energy as regular nothing extra. Not really expecting to see anything on the first day. But over all a good day. Trained shoulders and triceps. If you guys have any questions on what exactly I do lemme know ill post my workout.
 
jonathan517 said:
Lol if you think your helping me in anyway then u might wanna reconsider your teaching skills cause all u did was insult my intelligence as if I don't know what I am doing instead of saying hey dude I would recommend blah blah blah, you went ahead and to try and make me look stupid and no I'm not close minded but on this forum I am because there are a bunch of people like you that did a few cycles got some gains and think your gods and think you know everything so you try and insult and make people feel stupid when u think they don't know what they are doing. So yea I'm close minded but I have plenty of mentors I wasn't asking for advice nor help this is a log if I wanted help I would have ask for it and I didn't. So thank you but no thank you. I'll be fine.
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So explain in detail with real terms on why you don't need a serm and why you won't be shut down? Why not mentor all of us if we're all wrong.
 
I know you're not asking for help. Explain it if you're so knowledgeable. I'm asking for help from you. We're all clearly confused.
 
You're wasting your time with any less than 90mg with estra 4,9 ("tren"). Up the dosage if you want any results from that.
 
jonathan517 said:
Clearly your another ass on this forum, this is a log not me asking for help.
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Why do you get mad when we're telling you, you NEED a serm. And, again you'll need a prolactin inhibitor as well. Serms kick start LH/FSH, well make your testes sensitive to it again and producing testosterone. The designer hormones you're using, SHUT you DOWN. Aromatization has no correlation to suppression, we've reiterated this over and over.. But instead you say "imma do me".
 
pizzadrol said:
You're wasting your time with any less than 90mg with estra 4,9 ("tren"). Up the dosage if you want any results from that.
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First time running tren, so I'm in the 70mg for the first week my second week ill up it to 100mg. Just wanna see how I feel in the first week with tren.
 
jonathan517 said:
22 and lifting since I was 16 but really training serious past 2 years. Previous cycles have been Epi standalone cycle. 6 week cycle. A 8 week cycle of SD. A cycle of SD and Epi 8 weeks.
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8 weeks of SD holysh$t!!

Dude do yourself a favor and listen to to these guys, they are trying to help you so you don't Phuck yourself up.
 
Jawbreaker24 said:
8 weeks of SD holysh$t!!
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8 weeks of sd, epi and tren with no pct. Just from reading I'm thinking no regards what so ever for health. Am I missing something? Are you on TRT already? Is that why no pct with a SERM?

Are you at the top of a liver transplant list? 3 weeks of sd plays hell let alone 8.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Are we missing something here?
 
superbeast668 said:
8 weeks of sd, epi and tren with no pct. Just from reading I'm thinking no regards what so ever for health. Am I missing something? Are you on TRT already? Is that why no pct with a SERM? Are you at the top of a liver transplant list? 3 weeks of sd plays hell let alone 8. I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Are we missing something here?
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Lmaoooo nah man during those I didn't have a PCT I have mentors actual IFBB pros that have told me PCT is just a marketing scam and do not work so I don't use PCT and my gains have been great so I'm not complaining but a SERM I used especially for SD. Epi and tren no it isn't needed.
 
superbeast668 said:
8 weeks of sd, epi and tren with no pct. Just from reading I'm thinking no regards what so ever for health. Am I missing something? Are you on TRT already? Is that why no pct with a SERM?

Are you at the top of a liver transplant list? 3 weeks of sd plays hell let alone 8.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Are we missing something here?
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Nah your not missing anything he said 8 weeks of SD....
 
Jawbreaker24 said:
Nah your not missing anything he said 8 weeks of SD....
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U gotta know what your doing guys I have professional that guide me asking a bunch of gym rats here won't ever get u no where lol just a bunch of smart asses that think they know everything and is scared to try something new or over due something just a little bit.
 
jonathan517 said:
Lmaoooo nah man during those I didn't have a PCT I have mentors actual IFBB pros that have told me PCT is just a marketing scam and do not work so I don't use PCT and my gains have been great so I'm not complaining but a SERM I used especially for SD. Epi and tren no it isn't needed.
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Marketing scam PCT come on bro really....

Find somewhere else to get advise, before u hurt yourself. Or do irreversible damage.
 
My gains have been exceptional and I have a show coming up in a 2 months so. I kinda know what I am doing but then again I'm no one. I'm just here to make a log on tren being there barely are any
 
Jawbreaker24 said:
Marketing scam PCT come on bro really.... Find somewhere else to get advise, before u hurt yourself. Or do irreversible damage.
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Lmaoooo okay good waste your money on it I don't care lol there is only one official one that actual IFBB pros use and it's illegal in the US and u can only get it in the UK. And that **** is super strong, so if u wanna spend your money BS PCT lol by all means go ahead. Lol
 
jonathan517 said:
Lmaoooo okay good waste your money on it I don't care lol there is only one official one that actual IFBB pros use and it's illegal in the US and u can only get it in the UK. And that **** is super strong, so if u wanna spend your money BS PCT lol by all means go ahead. Lol
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Well what is this mysterious PCT drug that "they" use....
 
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