Regardless, I've had numerous interactions with several companies that carry it, all solid, if not above and beyond. For me, I've ran both the oral and transdermal, love them both. It wasn't the best muscle builder for me, and granted, I was cutting. If you go in with realistic expectations, it's amazing. I've said it before and I'll say it again, it just makes the day to day so much easier. The strongest points for me are the mood and focus. I'd say recovery and sleep are next. Third would be pumps. I should also add that although I don't feel it's strong point is building muscle, each time I've used it has been while trimming pudge, and none of my lifts suffered. I seriously rate it better than most nootropics and sleep aids I can think of. If I was rolling in it, I'd be slathering on the transdermal everyday 4 life.
. Im going to continue to run it but wanted to see if any of you had feedback on it. Thanks! 
