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Transexuals and Testosterone

ReyMan

ReyMan

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i was on youtube today looking up people injecting test and i noticed that a lot were trannies.

my question is : how come people wanting a sex change can have test prescribed to them by a doctor but someone who just wants to get bigger muscles cant? it seems a little unfair to me.

has anyone in here without low T asked their doctor to prescribe them test and had their request granted?
 
ReyMan said:
i was on youtube today looking up people injecting test and i noticed that a lot were trannies.

my question is : how come people wanting a sex change can have test prescribed to them by a doctor but someone who just wants to get bigger muscles cant? it seems a little unfair to me.

has anyone in here without low T asked their doctor to prescribe them test and had their request granted?
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ya dude great point, they can get recreational test for a sketchy sex change and normal lifters cant. GOOD POST
 
i dont believe that its quite as simple as that -going to the doctor and saying hey doc i want to be a woman2 , ok dude ill start test injections right away"(the OP implies that)

I think there will be a psychological profile done and perhaps a cooling off period to make sure its just not a phase.

From normal male perspective the medical point of view is surely this-, if your testosterone levels are normal the doctor has no reason to give testosterone.

big muscles dont get bigger purely by injecting testosterone -theres a lot of hard work to do covering routine and diet.However theres no denying that levels of test above the normal range do help.
 
ReyMan said:
i was on youtube today looking up people injecting test and i noticed that a lot were trannies.

my question is : how come people wanting a sex change can have test prescribed to them by a doctor but someone who just wants to get bigger muscles cant? it seems a little unfair to me.

has anyone in here without low T asked their doctor to prescribe them test and had their request granted?
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Why would you want it prescribed? I have it prescribed and STILL order powder overseas to do my own conversions. I don't know what insurance you have, but with Anthem, you're looking at 300 bucks a month for a minuscule amount of test that won't do anything for a bodybuilder. That same 300 can buy you 14 years worth of Test-C powder if you know where to look. Just sayin
 
corsaking said:
i dont believe that its quite as simple as that -going to the doctor and saying hey doc i want to be a woman2 , ok dude ill start test injections right away"(the OP implies that)

I think there will be a psychological profile done and perhaps a cooling off period to make sure its just not a phase.

From normal male perspective the medical point of view is surely this-, if your testosterone levels are normal the doctor has no reason to give testosterone.

big muscles dont get bigger purely by injecting testosterone -theres a lot of hard work to do covering routine and diet.However theres no denying that levels of test above the normal range do help.
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i think you misunderstood my post completely. of course doctors go through a process to see if the woman truly wants to be a man etc, but what im getting at is that obviously its for a recreational use. why wouldnt they prescribe it to a bodybuilder if thats really what they want. also, i know its just more than just test injections that makes people bigger, its not like im 13 years old...
 
Because America is dumb. I can get fake muscle implants, but can't get on test for real muscles. LOL.
 
I asked this same question when Cher's daughter/son was on tv the other day...Why does it seem like trannies have no problem finding gear but gym's sources seem to be drying up? Are doctors really prescibing these people test or are they going overseas for these transformations?

All these tranny celebs talk about being true to the person they are on the inside. Well hey, the person inside my 220 pound body is 260 pounds and screaming to get out! Doc give me some gear so I can be true to myself.

I don't get it. You can shove silicon in your chest till your breasts are larger than your head. You can eat until your fat as hippo then get lipo suction. Face lifts, botox... but if you use steroids, excercise, diet and work your but off, youre a cheater. huh?
 
And yet when these were all banned for bodybuilding by congress, the FDA and DEA advised them there was no reason for the ban. They were found non addictive and minimal health impact (if any)
 
DBdude said:
And yet when these were all banned for bodybuilding by congress, the FDA and DEA advised them there was no reason for the ban. They were found non addictive and minimal health impact (if any)
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Yes, but a very tiny minority were using it to cheat at sports, and what's more important than America's favorite past-time?
 
Rjr3412 said:
Yes, but a very tiny minority were using it to cheat at sports, and what's more important than America's favorite past-time?
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"Its funny that they addressed a sports cheating issue by making a law that hurts all the people that aren't cheating in sports."(bigger stonger faster 2007) Ya i HATE the whole cheating thing. EVERYONE in EVERY sport takes stuff or uses things to enhance their performance you name a sport they do it. Drag racing the use nitrous, golf they get lasik eye surgery and so on and so forth. But if your way to enhance your performance is by adding more of a natural hormone in your body then you are a cheater. I saw this video on youtube about this french natural bodybuilder saying that if you use steroids once you will have no balls left and how it is fake and easy muscle to get and how we are similar to "crackwhores" in that we are drug addicts. IS EVERYBODY MISINFORMED ON THE ISSUE!!!!!:frustrate

Im gona post some comments made from this video this guy is named luimarco so you know

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Sign In or Sign Up now to post a comment! @fr338a11in says the one with a tiny body after pumping himself full of drugs. The only loser here is you, thats right nobody but you who is too lazy to work hard and resorts to steroids.
isurugi 4 weeks ago
@fr338a11in hahaha dude I'm in pharmacy school, and I can tell you that the danger of steroids lui mentioned are all true, you need to educate yourself before bashing on other ppl... or you can just take a look at your tiny balls, and it will answer all your questions

@luimarco can you say burn? that was so funny lui. but you're right any guy can get on juice and get huge and ripped with a half decent diet and training program. It takes a man to step up and do it on his own. Stand your ground
 
Husker89 said:
"Its funny that they addressed a sports cheating issue by making a law that hurts all the people that aren't cheating in sports."(bigger stonger faster 2007) Ya i HATE the whole cheating thing. EVERYONE in EVERY sport takes stuff or uses things to enhance their performance you name a sport they do it. Drag racing the use nitrous, golf they get lasik eye surgery and so on and so forth. But if your way to enhance your performance is by adding more of a natural hormone in your body then you are a cheater. I saw this video on youtube about this french natural bodybuilder saying that if you use steroids once you will have no balls left and how it is fake and easy muscle to get and how we are similar to "crackwhores" in that we are drug addicts. IS EVERYBODY MISINFORMED ON THE ISSUE!!!!!:frustrate

Im gona post some comments made from this video this guy is named luimarco so you know

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Sign In or Sign Up now to post a comment! @fr338a11in says the one with a tiny body after pumping himself full of drugs. The only loser here is you, thats right nobody but you who is too lazy to work hard and resorts to steroids.
isurugi 4 weeks ago
@fr338a11in hahaha dude I'm in pharmacy school, and I can tell you that the danger of steroids lui mentioned are all true, you need to educate yourself before bashing on other ppl... or you can just take a look at your tiny balls, and it will answer all your questions

@luimarco can you say burn? that was so funny lui. but you're right any guy can get on juice and get huge and ripped with a half decent diet and training program. It takes a man to step up and do it on his own. Stand your ground
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I've got a friend with that mentality towards juice. It seems that some "natural" bodybuilders have an excessive level of arrogance. You know the old saying, people mock that which they envy. I see it as fear, they like their perfect genetics and hate the idea that other people can get that big too with the aid of steroids. If anything I have more respect for the IFBB pros because it takes a whole new level of knowledge and dedication to use the ****tails they do. Everything a natural bodybuilder has to do plus a sh*t load of chemistry and dangers. Just because the rest of us don't have perfect genes it doesn't mean they're the only ones that get to enjoy being big
 
DBdude said:
I've got a friend with that mentality towards juice. It seems that some "natural" bodybuilders have an excessive level of arrogance. You know the old saying, people mock that which they envy. I see it as fear, they like their perfect genetics and hate the idea that other people can get that big too with the aid of steroids. If anything I have more respect for the IFBB pros because it takes a whole new level of knowledge and dedication to use the ****tails they do. Everything a natural bodybuilder has to do plus a sh*t load of chemistry and dangers. Just because the rest of us don't have perfect genes it doesn't mean they're the only ones that get to enjoy being big
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exactly, couldn't have put it any better!!
 
why would a tranny want test. wouldnt they want low t like a woman has. or do they take test and skip pct or something for the estrogen crash haha.
 
ReyMan said:
i think you misunderstood my post completely. of course doctors go through a process to see if the woman truly wants to be a man etc, but what im getting at is that obviously its for a recreational use. why wouldnt they prescribe it to a bodybuilder if thats really what they want. also, i know its just more than just test injections that makes people bigger, its not like im 13 years old...
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the dosage required to have an impact on builsing muscle are going to be well above the level thats already in a healthy male , I am sure you checked out a typical cycle of testosterone enthanate for example , 250mg per week
Bodybuilding is purely cosmetic , having muscles is an ego trip-checkout Jersey Shore.
After reading this Invalid Link Removed you may be more sympathetic about the change from man to woman and vice versa .

Im sure if you really wanted you could source testosterone enthanate for your own use and you may find its cheaper to buy than some of the hyped up products you buy that fail to deliver.r
 
Kaydoh said:
why would a tranny want test. wouldnt they want low t like a woman has. or do they take test and skip pct or something for the estrogen crash haha.
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trannie stands for transsexual, which cant be a man changing into a girl or vice versa. in this case, i was talking about women that are trying to become men.
 
ReyMan said:
trannie stands for transsexual, which cant be a man changing into a girl or vice versa. in this case, i was talking about women that are trying to become men.
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your OP quotes trannies , by your own definition a transexual. the link refers to transexualism ie men who want to change into women and vice versa .i am puzzled why you carnt see the connection between that and your final sentence.Surely gender changing is transexualism irrespective which way round it is.
 
I think his point is, people can get unnecessary and dangerous drugs and operations for non-medical reasons and yet we can't get hormones for the same category of body modification despite a lesser degree of medical repercussions and dangers.

Regardless of what is being done, whether it a man to a woman or vice versa, lipo, breast/pec implants, or any other plastic surgery to make people look like freaks, they have demonized steroids and condemned it for illogical reasons.

Maybe if it were legal and treated like firearms then things would be different. Set requirements like they must be 21 and attend several classes regarding use, general education, safety and various other topics. Treat it as if they are getting a hang gun for personal carry. It would reduce human error and educate the public. Granted people would still disagree as with firearms. But its about safety and control in order to grant the freedom we deserve. I would gladly agree to those terms
 
"All these tranny celebs talk about being true to the person they are on the inside. Well hey, the person inside my 220 pound body is 260 pounds and screaming to get out! Doc give me some gear so I can be true to myself."

hahahah.
 
muller said:
That same 300 can buy you 14 years worth of Test-C powder if you know where to look. Just sayin
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<--------- Starts looking

I came into this thread expecting a mess, and found some well written posts.
 
corsaking said:
your OP quotes trannies , by your own definition a transexual. the link refers to transexualism ie men who want to change into women and vice versa .i am puzzled why you carnt see the connection between that and your final sentence.Surely gender changing is transexualism irrespective which way round it is.
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sorry that was a typo, i meant to put CAN. for the sake of this discussion, i was talking about women who want to become men, because they get scripts for test.
 
DBdude said:
I've got a friend with that mentality towards juice. It seems that some "natural" bodybuilders have an excessive level of arrogance. You know the old saying, people mock that which they envy. I see it as fear, they like their perfect genetics and hate the idea that other people can get that big too with the aid of steroids. If anything I have more respect for the IFBB pros because it takes a whole new level of knowledge and dedication to use the ****tails they do. Everything a natural bodybuilder has to do plus a sh*t load of chemistry and dangers. Just because the rest of us don't have perfect genes it doesn't mean they're the only ones that get to enjoy being big
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Even if they feel that way about gear why do they say it? Like keep that sh1t to yourself, i agree and disagree with lots of things people do but i do what makes me happy and let other people do their own thing. I think they are honestly really insecure or dont have confidence and it makes them feel better to be critical of other people go get a life lol.
 
When you think about it , this thread shouldnt be here at all because for one there are otc compounds that areas close to testosterone as you can get , or in the case of the US maybe that is no longer the case , and secondly im sure someone knows someone etc who can get hold of anabolic steroids if they set their mind to it.

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It's pretty easy if you're not brain dead and Naive. You just gotta want it bad enough. I already found a place to get powders, 1 kilo for $600. Thats enough test cyp to run 1g a week for 20 years straight. I'll be getting this stuff the same way I got 1 kilo of DNP. (Don't ask me for sources, I'll respond with a link to google)
 
corsaking said:
Bodybuilding is purely cosmetic , having muscles is an ego trip-checkout Jersey Shore.
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I still think I'd have a better chance of getting juice prescribed if I were a woman who thought she should have been born with a penis...
 
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