Transdermals
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KlausCoin
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I've found great success applying transdermals by rubbing them with the inside of my wrist rather than my hands. When I use my palms, a significant amount of the product gets absorbed into the thicker skin or ends up getting washed off.
I've found great success applying transdermals by rubbing them with the inside of my wrist rather than my hands. When I use my palms, a significant amount of the product gets absorbed into the thicker skin or ends up getting washed off.
warnerve
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Started doing this too after I saw it posted on here, put a little inside one wrist, rub both wrists together, then use them to rub it into the inside of the biceps. Will also do top of feet sometimes.
Slims
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And still getting the full effects of the product(s)?
delsolrob
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What material are they made out of? Latex?
Joshlm69
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I use disposable surgery gloves (can use the same gloves for 5-10 applications). Much better than using wrists imo
Nitrile
delsolrob
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I would caution against this - nitrile breaks down in many common solvents, there may also be other chemicals they use in the packaging process like plasticizers, stabilizers, etc and we don't want these components to be piggy backed into the carrier and also delivered into the dermis.
The risks are increased by the rubbing process
Just use clean hands and then wash them.
Joshlm69
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Thanks for the insight Rob - won’t use them anymore
BigGame84
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Interesting. I've been using Nitrile gloves for years when using transdermals. I don't re-use them though. I toss them after only one application.
max silver
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I've been using nitrile gloves as well, but perhaps I should consider using your method and tossing after each use vs reusing them over and over again.
Renew1
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That's better than reusing them .... But I wouldn't recommend using them at all.
Joshlm69
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I’ve switched to 1 use then throwing them. Only because I’m doing a blood test next week via fingerprick, and it says to not have not used any hormonal creams on your hands for 4 weeks.
Will ditch the gloves next week once I’ve done the test
and alpha Joshlm69
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apparently up to 2-3 years past expiry they're good, if you kept them in a cool/dark placeCan transdermals expire, I have a few iconand alpha
from Original release… looking to finally trying them
delsolrob
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That's what I recommend.
delsolrob
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some retro bottles there! If stored properly, they should be g2g. one of the potentials is they may be a little more runny, as the carbomer may have started to lose its structure...so, just don't be surprised if they're a little more liquidyCan transdermals expire, I have a few icon
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some retro bottles there! If stored properly, they should be gg. one of the potentials is they may be a little more runny, as the carbomer may have started to lose its structure...so, just don't be surprised if they're a little more liquidy
g. one of the potentials is they may be a little more runny, as the carbomer may have started to lose its structure...so, just don't be surprised if they're a little more liquidy
That’s what I noticed today when I used it for the first time
max silver
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Fair enough. At the end of the day there are chemicals in our environment that can't be avoided, but if there's even a remote possibility of directly absorbing these through my skin when using nitrile gloves I can switch up how I apply my topicals. I did greatly prefer using gloves over bare hands as there are topicals that are a massive pain to fully wash off of your hands.
cheftepesh1
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How does heat affect transdermals given this time of year?
I recently orders a number of bottles of XPG FL7, L-Carnitine and Napalm but the due to the weather they were slightly warm (not hot) when delivered and I’m concerned whether this would impair the effectiveness ?
Usually they are fine. If they seem like they separated or anything shake them up. Otherwise you should be fine. Just store in a cool place. I’ve had plenty delivered in summer.
max silver
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I would guess that winter would potentially be more problematic due to the product freezing.
cheftepesh1
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Most likely. It would depend on the amount of alcohol in the substance.
delsolrob
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@cheftepesh1 is right, they're fine. You just don't want them stored for extended times at high temperatures.How does heat affect transdermals given this time of year?
I recently orders a number of bottles of XPG FL7, L-Carnitine and Napalm but the due to the weather they were slightly warm (not hot) when delivered and I’m concerned whether this would impair the effectiveness ?
If you ever get a topical that's been frozen and it's crystalized - it's an easy fix with a hot water bath.
max silver
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This isn't specific to your product but is the hot water bath typically effective for getting separated products back into solution? I have a different product that I found has separated and there's no air space in the bottle to allow for shaking the product. The product starts out super runny and eventually becomes very prone to balling up on my skin once the runnier portion has run out.
Riptor
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@cheftepesh1, @delsolrob, @max silver Thank you all for your replies ! I was very worried the products were wasted and immediately put them in the fridge for 30mins and then in cool, dark cupboard. I visually checked the bottles and could see the Napalm was a beige colour and similar in appearance to other Naplam bottles I had. As for the FL7 and L- Carnitine gels, I’ve never bought them before and they appear to be colourless - is this the correct appearance for these gels ? - just wondering if the heat would have changed anything visually.
@delsolrob, I actually ordered the products from the US and took about 8 day to arrive so there’s no way of telling if they were kept within a cool area during transit - but the only of finding out is to apply them and how they perform for fat loss.
@delsolrob, I actually ordered the products from the US and took about 8 day to arrive so there’s no way of telling if they were kept within a cool area during transit - but the only of finding out is to apply them and how they perform for fat loss.
baldwanus
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Can't speak to F7, but L-Carn gel doesn't have any color to it.
sns8778
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I don't reuse gloves, I use them once and discard them, but I do usually use them when applying topicals.
I see where Rob is coming from, I just know me and I'll be more consistent with them using gloves with them.
sns8778
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How does heat affect transdermals given this time of year?
I recently orders a number of bottles of XPG FL7, L-Carnitine and Napalm but the due to the weather they were slightly warm (not hot) when delivered and I’m concerned whether this would impair the effectiveness ?
You should be fine. I wouldn't worry about it at all.
I think that you are correct. I would be more worried about them being too cold for extended periods than having gotten hot during transit.
Products getting hot in transit isn't going to mess them up. I'm more concerned that you put them in the refrigerator than about them getting hot in transit. If you only did it for 30 minutes, should be okay. But I would not do that again in the future.
Even if you bought from a retailer in the UK/EU, they bought them from the US so they would have still gotten hot in transit this time of year.
Think about it like this - I've never felt like I messed up a topical by getting it too hot, but I have put them in front of AC vent on my bathroom counter and got them too cold and then what I did to fix them was heated them up by filling a cup with hot water and submerging them for 30 seconds and then doing it again. I understand you're worried about them getting hot - but heat is the fix from getting them too cold too.
I hope that helps.
Riptor
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Thanks for explaining this Steve. When I took them out of the fridge they were not cold but felt just like you picked them out of a cupboard at normal room temperature.
I’m just concerned now whether the cooling during that 30 mins would have impaired the chemical properties of the ingredients in any way ! ?
Anyway, they are now stored at room temperature and I’m planning to use them in a day or two.
While we’re on the topic of topicals getting too cold, some houses in the UK have poor insulation, especially some new build ones and I suppose in that case would it be best to keep hem in a room that has sufficient heating so the bottles are not too cold to touch?
I’m just concerned now whether the cooling during that 30 mins would have impaired the chemical properties of the ingredients in any way ! ?
Anyway, they are now stored at room temperature and I’m planning to use them in a day or two.
While we’re on the topic of topicals getting too cold, some houses in the UK have poor insulation, especially some new build ones and I suppose in that case would it be best to keep hem in a room that has sufficient heating so the bottles are not too cold to touch?
sns8778
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If I were you, I wouldn't think anything more of it. I think they're fine. From what you said, you didn't refrigerate them long enough to make them too cold. Especially what you said about them just feeling room temperature.
I don't worry about them getting a little cold - like in my case, when I've gotten them too cold, its been bc I put them directly in front of a vent blowing cold air for days and even then, it was an easy fix.
A house would have to get pretty cold before I would worry about it messing anything up with them. The ideal would be 68F to 77F (room temperature) which equates to 20C to 25C. But that's just an average range and storage suggestion. My house gets colder than 68F in winter because I'm hot natured anyway.