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Looking at icon solutions and wanted a slight strength mass increase but mostly leaning out without worrying about water retention. Which is the best product and what pct would you use for it?
 
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If iconic formulations is what you mean. Ultra epi or seven would be good. I would say sustain is good to add pct.
 
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If iconic formulations is what you mean. Ultra epi or seven would be good. I would say sustain is good to add pct.
alpha seven with invictus would be a great fat burn/lean out cycle, imo.
 
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If iconic formulations is what you mean. Ultra epi or seven would be good. I would say sustain is good to add pct.
Maybe he was thinking of Iconic Formulations and TheSolution at the same time? ;)

But I agree on sustain as a good pct add on.
 
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Maybe he was thinking of Iconic Formulations and TheSolution at the same time? ;)

But I agree on sustain as a good pct add on.
I’m sure that would make an interesting combination for weight loss.
 

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Haha yeah my bad. Does alpha seven keep you up at night? Any sides? Any strength gains?
 
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Haha yeah my bad. Does alpha seven keep you up at night? Any sides? Any strength gains?
increased body warming effect, but the best side is increased libido...strength gains will be up to your workouts, but it will give muscle hardness and increased vascularity.

recommended to apply 1st thing in morning, this should not effect sleep in a negative way, for me it actually increased deep sleep.
 
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Haha yeah my bad. Does alpha seven keep you up at night? Any sides? Any strength gains?
increased body warming effect, but the best side is increased libido...strength gains will be up to your workouts, but it will give muscle hardness and increased vascularity.

recommended to apply 1st thing in morning, this should not effect sleep in a negative way, for me it actually increased deep sleep.
 
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Do you need a base for 8 weeks of Ultra hard or Alpha seven?
it wouldn't hurt, but i don't feel it would be necessary. i've seen several running them with dermacrine but i personally have not, but i am on trt.
 
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