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Transdermal Trest Ace + M-sten Cycle (BehemothLabz) Advice

Ar0usal

Ar0usal

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Looking to start a cycle of

Behemoth Labz Transdermal Trestolone Acetate - 34mg/day - Week 1 to Week 8
Behemoth Labz M-sten - 29mg/day - Week 1 to Week 4
Behemoth Labz Exemestane - 12.5mg EOD - Week 1 to Week 8
Behemoth Labz Clomid - 50/50/25/25 - Week 8 to Week 12
Behemoth Labz Tudca - 1000mg/day - Week 1 to Week 4

Need advice on whether dosages look good. Especially AI, should it be 12.5mg eod, 25mg eod, or 12.5mg ed. Also would I need caber or should I be fine without it. Will definitely log it when I go ahead with it.
 
Questions of interest;
1. Are you familiar with nor tests? deca tren npp ect?

2. Are you familiar with your AI of choice?


if you handle any of the above compounds well, you should know how you will react to trest (basically). The biggest differece here is trest aromatises through normal pathways unlike the others, so the AI of choice could be critical for some. Likewise the question of caber use should be evident by how you react to other nors. those that need it, will need it. others may not, and some can use OTC stuff like p5p or or other popular routes like inhibit-p. I think if you are able to control your estrogen well on trest you may find the caber unnecessary.
Another thing to remember, this will convert to methyl estrogen so the build up is swift and lasting, make sure to keep that in mind, especially around your post cycle.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
Questions of interest;
1. Are you familiar with nor tests? deca tren npp ect?

2. Are you familiar with your AI of choice?


if you handle any of the above compounds well, you should know how you will react to trest (basically). The biggest differece here is trest aromatises through normal pathways unlike the others, so the AI of choice could be critical for some. Likewise the question of caber use should be evident by how you react to other nors. those that need it, will need it. others may not, and some can use OTC stuff like p5p or or other popular routes like inhibit-p. I think if you are able to control your estrogen well on trest you may find the caber unnecessary.
Another thing to remember, this will convert to methyl estrogen so the build up is swift and lasting, make sure to keep that in mind, especially around your post cycle.
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Never used a 19nor before. Aromasin seems to be what most people recommend for trest, but doses are so different between people its hard to tell. I guess thats an issue with AIs in general. Really don't want to get gyno though at all so I'm wondering what's the most recommended I guess. I'll get some inhibit-p on hand then aswell. For the lasting estro, how long should I stay on AI post cycle then? Thanks bro
 
How much gets absorbed with the transdermal? I don't need an AI on 10 mg/day injectable trest ace with 200 mg/week test. Some of the benefits (size, muscular endurance, libido) come from the higher estrogen levels. I wouldn't take an AI unless I had estrogen sides.

The extra methylestradiol goes away within a day or two when I stop injectable trest ace. I don't think an AI would be needed post cycle.
 
mw314159 said:
How much gets absorbed with the transdermal? I don't need an AI on 10 mg/day injectable trest ace with 200 mg/week test. Some of the benefits (size, muscular endurance, libido) come from the higher estrogen levels. I wouldn't take an AI unless I had estrogen sides.

The extra methylestradiol goes away within a day or two when I stop injectable trest ace. I don't think an AI would be needed post cycle.
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Not sure on how much is absorbed. I'd say 40-50% if I am guessing but yeah I tried searching it earlier and couldn't find any info. My plan initially was wait and see if I get estrogen sides but from what I've researched, multiple people have said to start the AI straight away as 7a-methylest builds up without you noticing so by the time you see sides and react it's too late.
 
beefyfan said:
I'm no expert, but that seems like a lot of aromasin.
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Yeah it's weird how some people are suggesting 25mg a day, that's why I opened a thread because from all the threads on trest ace, doses are 25mg eod, 12.5mg eod, 12.5mg ed and one was on 25mg ed to control 7a-methylest
 
Ar0usal said:
Not sure on how much is absorbed. I'd say 40-50% if I am guessing but yeah I tried searching it earlier and couldn't find any info. My plan initially was wait and see if I get estrogen sides but from what I've researched, multiple people have said to start the AI straight away as 7a-methylest builds up without you noticing so by the time you see sides and react it's too late.
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A lot of guys run a SERM from the beginning of the cycle to prevent the estrogen side effects. I'd rather wait and add a low dose AI if needed, but I understand not wanting to get gyno. It just sucks to take too high of an AI dose and miss out on some of the benefits of trest.

Right now I'm on 5 mg/day trest ace with 350 mg/week test. I'm 45, and I'm hornier now than when I was a teenager. Adding aromasin would kill that feeling pretty quickly.
 
mw314159 said:
A lot of guys run a SERM from the beginning of the cycle to prevent the estrogen side effects. I'd rather wait and add a low dose AI if needed, but I understand not wanting to get gyno. It just sucks to take too high of an AI dose and miss out on some of the benefits of trest.

Right now I'm on 5 mg/day trest ace with 350 mg/week test. I'm 45, and I'm hornier now than when I was a teenager. Adding aromasin would kill that feeling pretty quickly.
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Ah I get you. Would running a serm only help control gyno or other estrogen sides aswell like water retention?
 
No bloods to prove it. But ive felt like a million bucks and avoided gyno by being cautious.

Ran 30mg pre trest with 25mg asin and .25 dostinex e3d last year for 12 weeks...

Felt ballsy and did 30mg pre trest and 17mg behemoth trest AND 175mg weekly test e subq. 1mg adex and .25 dostinex e3d. On week 9 of this. No gyno.

Oops offtopic. Anyway thats the ai protocol i use as a cautious person if you wanted to hear experiences.
 
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benjamfzb said:
No bloods to prove it. But ive felt like a million bucks and avoided gyno by being cautious.

Ran 30mg pre trest with 25mg asin and .25 dostinex e3d last year for 12 weeks...

Felt ballsy and did 30mg pre trest and 17mg behemoth trest AND 175mg weekly test e subq. 1mg adex and .25 dostinex e3d. On week 9 of this. No gyno.

Oops offtopic. Anyway thats the ai protocol i use as a cautious person if you wanted to hear experiences.
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Yeah that makes sense. That's probably what I'm gonna go for, although might opt for inhibit p over caber as I don't like the sound of caber sides too much
 
Ar0usal said:
Yeah that makes sense. That's probably what I'm gonna go for, although might opt for inhibit p over caber as I don't like the sound of caber sides too much
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Prami is very cheap and effective. Some people have bad sides from it but that's usually because they don't ramp up their dose properly. It's probably one of the strongest chemicals and can mess you up bad. It can also be your best friend if you treat it with respect.
 
Ar0usal said:
Interesting. Why's that?
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Kickstarting is a noob trap.

You should always design your cycle to rotate compounds and/or up the overall dose as things progress to defeat homeostasis and keep growing. Doing this in the reverse by loading the front end with more compounds is a guaranteed way to plateau mid cycle.
 
Leakydelts said:
Kickstarting is a noob trap.

You should always design your cycle to rotate compounds and/or up the overall dose as things progress to defeat homeostasis and keep growing. Doing this in the reverse by loading the front end with more compounds is a guaranteed way to plateau mid cycle.
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ah interesting. Thanks, i'll switch up the cycle.
 
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