Unanswered Transdermal Trenavar issue

Ricky10

Ricky10

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I received 2 bottles of Fusion Supplements Liquitren 3 days ago, and the solutions are very different.

One is a completely clear liquid, just like Invictus

The other is like a milky white solution that rubs in more like a very light cream

I contacted this UK supplier (yes, that one) about the issue, but they are closed today and who knows when I will hear back. Didn’t know if anybody knew if Trenavar is even capable of being compounded into a solution that is completely clear? Any thoughts?

Thanks for any help!
 
So no reply from the UK supplier...

Anyway, I have been dosing 75mg of the clear solution for 5 days. I feel absolutely nothing, not even the slightest of side effects. I used to be able to feel 10-20mg of oral Trenavar instantly.

This stuff seems like complete bunk. I highly suggest everyone stays clear of Liquitren and go for a different brand..
 
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I personally like it. I shoot for 120mg.

The oral version hits me too hard. Very uncomfortable. This is slow release i guess
 
benjamfzb said:
I personally like it. I shoot for 120mg.

The oral version hits me too hard. Very uncomfortable. This is slow release i guess
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I liked the hard hit I used to get, it was like taking a stim that made me strong AF.
The slow release certainly “should” be more effective overall though. Original plan was to shoot or build up to a higher dose, that’s why I got 2 bottles.

Too bad that plan got foiled when they thought it would be funny to fill the other bottle with breast milk! Expensive breast milk I might add!
 
Ricky10 said:
I liked the hard hit I used to get, it was like taking a stim that made me strong AF.
The slow release certainly “should” be more effective overall though. Original plan was to shoot or build up to a higher dose, that’s why I got 2 bottles.

Too bad that plan got foiled when they thought it would be funny to fill the other bottle with breast milk! Expensive breast milk I might add!
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Yeah i think its nano 1t lol taste it. If it tastes like canned milk with a hint of habanero thats what it is lol.


Its epic for subQ fat loss tho
 
benjamfzb said:
Yeah i think its nano 1t lol taste it. If it tastes like canned milk with a hint of habanero thats what it is lol.


Its epic for subQ fat loss tho
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Well, some sub-q fat loss sounds inviting. I will taste a dab tomorrow...in bed right now.

Still, it would be hard for me to take something without truly being sure what it really is. In this case anyway...

They really threw a curveball into my cycle...fuggers!
 
Ricky10 said:
Well, some sub-q fat loss sounds inviting. I will taste a dab tomorrow...in bed right now.

Still, it would be hard for me to take something without truly being sure what it really is. In this case anyway...

They really threw a curveball into my cycle...fuggers!
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If they don't respond, Id take some picks of the bottles side by side, and post them here, so other guys don't lose money too.
 
Renew1 said:
If they don't respond, Id take some picks of the bottles side by side, and post them here, so other guys don't lose money too.
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Still no response yet...

I did put a tiny drop of the milky solution in my mouth like 1/2 hr ago. I Just got a pretty intense burning sensation for like 10-15 minutes. I think the additional additives/carrier system would do that anyway, so not really sure that told me anything except for the fact that it is likely not breast milk. :p

Though I have had some pretty disturbing experiences with breast milk too in the past
 
Ricky10 said:
Still no response yet...

I did put a tiny drop of the milky solution in my mouth like 1/2 hr ago. I Just got a pretty intense burning sensation for like 10-15 minutes. I think the additional additives/carrier system would do that anyway, so not really sure that told me anything except for the fact that it is likely not breast milk. :p

Though I have had some pretty disturbing experiences with breast milk too in the past
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:oops::ROFLMAO:
 
Here they are! Both droppers are 1/2 full..

182625
 
Renew1 said:
Wow. Those definitely aren't the same thing. They should be explaining it, and refunding your money. I guess they just expect us to keep sending them money, and rolling the dice. That's not how I do business.
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Yeah, if they would at least acknowledge me, that will be the first step!
I wonder if I even could return (assuming the milky) one. May be too risky with customs? Otherwise, I would demand that they send me a prepaid shipping label..
 
Ricky10 said:
Yeah, if they would at least acknowledge me, that will be the first step!
I wonder if I even could return (assuming the milky) one. May be too risky with customs? Otherwise, I would demand that they send me a prepaid shipping label..
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I don't know.
I'm going to send them an email asking if they have any plans on making this right. ...or even answering your email.

I'd email them again, incude the pics, and just nicely ask them what they plan on doing, regarding this situation.
 
Renew1 said:
I don't know.
I'm going to send them an email asking if they have any plans on making this right. ...or even answering your email.

I'd email them again, incude the pics, and just nicely ask them what they plan on doing, regarding this situation.
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Yeah, my first email was actually quite nice, and more of just any inquiry about why the products could be so different. I immediately got an auto response back to my email account stating that they received my message. So they have it!

If they try to play games, I won’t be tolerating any of that...
 
I just looked up the Nano 1T product and read all the complaints about how much it burns your mouth. I bet the milky one is indeed the Nano 1T mislabeled as Liquitren. Just like @benjamfzb suggested...

Damn, it does really burn your mouth though quite bad, and I only did 1 drop this morning. It’s like pure acid...not the good kind either!

To think that I rubbed this on my body as a transdermal a few day ago. Haha!
 
Ricky10 said:
I just looked up the Nano 1T product and read all the complaints about how much it burns your mouth. I bet the milky one is indeed the Nano 1T mislabeled as Liquitren. Just like @benjamfzb suggested...

Damn, it does really burn your mouth though quite bad, and I only did 1 drop this morning. It’s like pure acid...not the good kind either!

To think that I rubbed this on my body as a transdermal a few day ago. Haha!
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LOL.
Crap!! 😆
 
BigGame84 said:
Best way to describe the Nano 1-T taste, dragon fire.
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Yeah, I literally thought a couple layers of tissue in my mouth were going to end up dying after taking the one drop (not dropper). It feels like a very unhealthy way to ingest a prohormone. I think dragons would even say this stuff burns way too much..
 
Ricky10 said:
Yeah, I literally thought a couple layers of tissue in my mouth were going to end up dying after taking the one drop (not dropper). It feels like a very unhealthy way to ingest a prohormone. I think dragons would even say this stuff burns way too much..
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Well the nano 1T is meant to absorb into your mouth, so it’s going to burn.

I put a lot of stock into what Nos has to say about it. These are probably crashed.
 
*update*

My friend just received a liquitrenthat's milky. We now have a trend.

Either we got multiple guys getting nano1t as a colossal fuckup or they changed the formula. Any expiry stickers on those?
 
This is really getting confusing now, who really knows what either of these products are. They probably don’t even know! There are no expiration dates or apparent batch numbers, but the glass bottoms do have different numbers imprinted...actually part of the glass. Clear is Q13 and Milky is Q71, it may just have to do with the production of the glass though.

To be clear, I am not putting either one in my mouth except for that one test.

Still no reply, which is a bit baffling to me from such a major online retailer. BS!
Obviously, I would recommend that everyone avoid this line of products as there obviously seems to be some major issues going on.
 
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I have a bottle of their mechabol that looks milky as well, I was thinking it was because I shook it up...but it hasn’t settled or changed.
So if it’s milky that means it’s separated from the carrier? Does that mean it’s no good and even after shaking or stirring you won’t get a even dosage, each time?
 
dudes... they're crashed bottles... the milky color is the trenavar coming out of solution.. try heating them up in boiling water maybe it will go back into solution..maybe
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
dudes... they're crashed bottles... the milky color is the trenavar coming out of solution.. try heating them up in boiling water maybe it will go back into solution..maybe
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Well that's good news. Boiling water won't hurt it (heat-wise)?
 
Yeah, fill a pot with water on the stove and get it to *near* boiling. Place the bottle in there and give it a couple mins. Shake well after. You should be g2g.
 
The amount of heat you'll apply will not degrade the hormone molecule. Stearanes tend to be pretty durable.
 
Not to be TOO shameless but if you can't fix it, click the link in my comment above and you may be able to find yourself a reasonable replacement.

Good luck, brudda.
 
Ricky10 said:
Well that sounds like a reasonable explanation. I will give that a try..

Thanks everyone!
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Always good to give the benefit of the doubt. Just because two liquids appear different, doesn’t mean they’re different. Predator/fusion has always seemed to at least try and be decent.

Just too bad the superdrol they get is weak.
 
Old Witch said:
Always good to give the benefit of the doubt. Just because two liquids appear different, doesn’t mean they’re different. Predator/fusion has always seemed to at least try and be decent.

Just too bad the superdrol they get is weak.
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To be fair, he did say that he sent them a POLITE email, and never got a response.

I was directed by a Rep of another VERY GOOD site to send them an email with a question. ... It was never responded to. Honestly that irks me almost as much as getting bad product.
 
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Mate, pick up the phone and call them, they can’t escape you then. Best bet. Might cost you a bit but at least you’ll know for sure
 
Mate, pick up the phone and call them, they can’t escape you then. Best bet. Might cost you a bit but at least you’ll know for sure
 
Well, they just got in touch with me today via email. They requested a photo (I sent the one above) and stated that they would look into it..

Should be interesting how they handle this😋
 
Ricky10 said:
Well, they just got in touch with me today via email. They requested a photo (I sent the one above) and stated that they would look into it..

Should be interesting how they handle this😋
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Nice! That's what I'm talking about!
It's almost as if they realized that it was being discussed here.
 
Well they used to be board sponsors if I recall correctly so there’s every chance of that. Look how fast the sd got pulled from the site once it took a beating on here. Tbh this one of the most influential bb sites in the world ( IMO) and there’s quite a few guys on here from the other side of the pond. Myself included
 
So I got the initial reply on Thursday, but no follow up after I sent them the photo and my order number. I emailed them again today with all the info to hopefully get things moving!

I would try heating the milky solution, but I would rather send it back if they would send me another bottle of the clear. I would like to increase my dose (currently at 80-90mg), as I really haven’t noted all that much in terms of benefits or side effects. Possibly drier joints, but I am also on week 4 or so of Havoc anyway..
 
Ricky10 said:
So I got the initial reply on Thursday, but no follow up after I sent them the photo and my order number. I emailed them again today with all the info to hopefully get things moving!

I would try heating the milky solution, but I would rather send it back if they would send me another bottle of the clear. I would like to increase my dose (currently at 80-90mg), as I really haven’t noted all that much in terms of benefits or side effects. Possibly drier joints, but I am also on week 4 or so of Havoc anyway..
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How’s the Havoc treating you? Bought a bottle from predator a couple months ago, hopefully it’s good and not another predator waste of money!
 
Kratom267 said:
How’s the Havoc treating you? Bought a bottle from predator a couple months ago, hopefully it’s good and not another predator waste of money!
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It’s fine, and it is surely your best bet. I got it last year from them, but never ended up using it at the time. It had that classic sulfur smell! I also have UG Pharma E-Shred, which never had a sulfur smell upon opening the bottle. I have experimented with both brands, and they essentially seem to have the same effect and feel. I have been using between 30-45mg/day for about 4 weeks.

Having said that, Epistane has never been on the top of my list, I just decided to use it this time around because I have not used it for quite some time. Now I remember why, it’s a bit underwhelming for me.

I felt I had to switch it up though from the Methyldiazirinol/Hexadrone stack I have utilized for the past 3 summers. I thought Epistane/Trenavar sounded like a nice way to go. So far though, I am definitely missing my Hexadrone the most.
 
Ricky10 said:
It’s fine, and it is surely your best bet. I got it last year from them, but never ended up using it at the time. It had that classic sulfur smell! I also have UG Pharma E-Shred, which never had a sulfur smell upon opening the bottle. I have experimented with both brands, and they essentially seem to have the same effect and feel. I have been using between 30-45mg/day for about 4 weeks.

Having said that, Epistane has never been on the top of my list, I just decided to use it this time around because I have not used it for quite some time. Now I remember why, it’s a bit underwhelming for me.

I felt I had to switch it up though from the Methyldiazirinol/Hexadrone stack I have utilized for the past 3 summers. I thought Epistane/Trenavar sounded like a nice way to go. So far though, I am definitely missing my Hexadrone the most.
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Yeah it definitely has that sulfur smell. Never ran epi solo, not expecting too much but wanted to see how it compares to halo. I’ll be in bulk mode, even though epi isn’t the best compound to compliment that...we’ll see what happens
 
Kratom267 said:
Yeah it definitely has that sulfur smell. Never ran epi solo, not expecting too much but wanted to see how it compares to halo. I’ll be in bulk mode, even though epi isn’t the best compound to compliment that...we’ll see what happens
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I’m in shred mode, so we are certainly on different ends of the spectrum. I also had H-Drol on hand, and I am kind of wishing I had stacked that with Trenavar. Oh well, too late in the game now!

I have made some progress overall, so I guess I can’t be too disappointed
 
Ricky10 said:
I’m in shred mode, so we are certainly on different ends of the spectrum. I also had H-Drol on hand, and I am kind of wishing I had stacked that with Trenavar. Oh well, too late in the game now!

I have made some progress overall, so I guess I can’t be too disappointed
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What brand Hdrol you running?
Think I can get some decent progress using epi for a lean bulk?
 
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