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Transdermal 3-AD to rival epiandro?

Seth777 said:
Do you know the half life of 3 AD
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I'm honestly not sure - I've contacted the patent holder to see if they have any data
 
delsolrob said:
I'm honestly not sure - I've contacted the patent holder to see if they have any data
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Do you know when orders will start shipping out? Mine's been stuck in pre-shipment since the 10th. Just wanted to make sure USPS didn't misplace it or something!
 
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@delsolrob I have used topical 3AD before but it was localized and it worked freakin' wonders on my midsection where I was applying. I am chasing those targeted results again and want topical 3AD so bad but worry if it is systemic it will not work as well on my midsection. Is this systemic or localized and in your opinion does it really matter? Thanks!
 
cybercrombie said:
@delsolrob I have used topical 3AD before but it was localized and it worked freakin' wonders on my midsection where I was applying. I am chasing those targeted results again and want topical 3AD so bad but worry if it is systemic it will not work as well on my midsection. Is this systemic or localized and in your opinion does it really matter? Thanks!
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pretty much all topicals are systemic unless the ingredient your pushing into the skin has targeting effects. so really (and this is no offence to you), the affects you likely experienced were from the systemic effects of the hormone and just didn't know it.

going forward, the stomach is not the best place to apply. Andros do better on the shoulders typically.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
pretty much all topicals are systemic unless the ingredient your pushing into the skin has targeting effects. so really (and this is no offence to you), the affects you likely experienced were from the systemic effects of the hormone and just didn't know it.

going forward, the stomach is not the best place to apply. Andros do better on the shoulders typically.
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No offense taken whatsoever and thanks for the reply and especially making this product happen! I think there was some sort of special localized carrier in what I used previously so it aided in preventing shutdown or flare-ups. Due to that mechanism a couple of us were using it mainly on the midsection and having amazing results, @JKVol was one person I recall. However it worked, local or systemic, it just worked so I got three on the way! Haha
 
Seth777 said:
Why is it that Iconic had to discontinue production of their 4 and 1 andro but iron mag labs did not?
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1 andro and 4 andro are patented hormones and thus in order to use them you must pay the patent holder and or receive permission from said holder. My guess is one of those or both of those issues arose.
 
BigGame84 said:
I'll probably do 75mg topical 3-AD stacked with 75mg oral 3-AD with the oral pre-workout.
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I think will do something similar but I'm going to just to do one oral pre workout because I'm also stacking with 4 andro, SARMs and possibly 1 andro... And so I can stretch to oral the full 8 weeks with the 2 bottles of transdermal I got.
 
SSJ4GOD said:
1 andro and 4 andro are patented hormones and thus in order to use them you must pay the patent holder and or receive permission from said holder. My guess is one of those or both of those issues arose.
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(y)
 
Question. Would TD 3ad stack well with dienogen? I have some 4andro I had planned to use with the dienogen but am unsure if 3ad can be used with that combo as well (not sure why it couldnt be?)
 
DinnerTable said:
Question. Would TD 3ad stack well with dienogen? I have some 4andro I had planned to use with the dienogen but am unsure if 3ad can be used with that combo as well (not sure why it couldnt be?)
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Not at all but I would take the dienogen from you 🤣
 
DinnerTable said:
Question. Would TD 3ad stack well with dienogen? I have some 4andro I had planned to use with the dienogen but am unsure if 3ad can be used with that combo as well (not sure why it couldnt be?)
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Sure, it would go well with it IMO.
But IMO, the 4- Andro would be a better choice.
All 3 together would probably be the Best choice.
 
Renew1 said:
Sure, it would go well with it IMO.
But IMO, the 4- Andro would be a better choice.
All 3 together would probably be the Best choice.
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Missing out on dienogen is probably the worst part of me taking a hiatus from forums….Invalid Link Removed

but I agree all 3 would be dope!
 
Renew1 said:
Sure, it would go well with it IMO.
But IMO, the 4- Andro would be a better choice.
All 3 together would probably be the Best choice.
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I was kind of seeing it like: dienogen is the builder, TD 4andro is the base, 3ad is the enhancer/polisher
 
SSJ4GOD said:
Missing out on dienogen is probably the worst part of me taking a hiatus from forums….Invalid Link Removed

but I agree all 3 would be dope!
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Keep an eye out.
They still come up for sale (by individuals) occasionally.
I'll let you know if I run across some.
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I'm thinking about adding a stronger muscle builder to my stack. Which would be better to run with 3 AD, rad 140 or 1 andro? Do 3 AD's amplifying qualities carry over to SARMs?
 
Seth777 said:
I'm thinking about adding a stronger muscle builder to my stack. Which would be better to run with 3 AD, rad 140 or 1 andro? Do 3 AD's amplifying qualities carry over to SARMs?
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If you are trying to gain size, 1 Andro (assuming you can afford to run enough). 3AD will also help with the lethargy from that.

RAD140 isn’t a good size builder, better for strength and cutting. At least not at common doses. I would consider LGD4033 if you want to use a SARM for gaining size.

Try it and find out.
 
Seth777 said:
I'm thinking about adding a stronger muscle builder to my stack. Which would be better to run with 3 AD, rad 140 or 1 andro? Do 3 AD's amplifying qualities carry over to SARMs?
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IML sells a td 1-andro. If I wanted size, I would use that and also get a higher dosed oral version. 1-andro works great when dosed well
 
cybercrombie said:
No offense taken whatsoever and thanks for the reply and especially making this product happen! I think there was some sort of special localized carrier in what I used previously so it aided in preventing shutdown or flare-ups. Due to that mechanism a couple of us were using it mainly on the midsection and having amazing results, @JKVol was one person I recall. However it worked, local or systemic, it just worked so I got three on the way! Haha
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Yes that TD is amazing for fat loss
 
My bottles arrived this weekend. Thx @delsolrob for putting this together. Excited to start this in a couple weeks.

I've ran this as oral and recall the dosing being 2x a day; leading me to think this stuff has a shorter half life. I plan to apply it twice a day; just can't decide the dose. Leaning towards a larger dose to really see what this stuff can do. 75mgx2...may have to order a 3rd bottle.

What are others planning?
 
Do any of you guys know if there is a difference between cylcozomal delivery technology and lipozomal delivery technology for Andros?
 
Seth777 said:
Do any of you guys know if there is a difference between cylcozomal delivery technology and lipozomal delivery technology for Andros?
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I'll just quote my old post here. I hope it's correct, lol. It's almost 2 years, since I wrote the post and haven't looked in to it since.

KvanH said:
Cyclotrexins are a types of sugar molecules bound in large rings (or something like that) and liposome is a lipid encapsulation of a molecule. So they are separate things. Better info here for example:

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Cyclosome combines these two delivery methods.
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Lol I'm getting kind of nervous, ordered my bottles on the 11th and they haven't arrived yet. Keeping fingers crossed it will arrive this week🤞🤞
 
Seth777 said:
Lol I'm getting kind of nervous, ordered my bottles on the 11th and they haven't arrived yet. Keeping fingers crossed it will arrive this week🤞🤞
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there's only one Seth who ordered Ultra Three and the tracking shows it was delivered on the 21st
 
delsolrob said:
there's only one Seth who ordered Ultra Three and the tracking shows it was delivered on the 21st
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I guess there was a discrepancy because the came in today but hell yeah, I got em my dude! This is gonna be sweet! Happy Thanksgiving everyobdy! 😁
 
looking forward to feedback on these
 
delsolrob said:
looking forward to feedback on these
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I ended up starting this last week 150mg a day. So far I feel pretty amazing. I remember this being a feel good compound. Still too early to judge the gains. At 150mg a day these bottles should last about 2 weeks or less. Shame more of the source material isn't available. Hopefully I get snag a few more bottles while it's available. I really want to see what this stuff is capable of.
 
I just picked some up yesterday, going to run it with 600 or 900mg oral epi andro. Looking forward to trying it out!
 
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