Unanswered Topical anti-inflammatories and tendon adaptation

[u_e_s_i]

Ive felt pain in my elbows when doing even moderate weight triceps work for almost two years now and last week my knee flared up whilst doing legs. I’ve been told that a tendon or two in my elbows and left knee are likely prone to inflammation due to strain and I want to find a solution. These days I always warm up my joints before training but that only reduces the pain felt and doesn’t reduce it enough

As taking too many/much oral anti-inflammatories is bad for muscular adaptation, I want to explore the topical route. My plan atm is to apply a topical anti-inflammatory, pain relieving lotion/gel to the problematic area(s) and only the problematic area(s) before workouts involving them.

What I’m wondering is, would doing so negatively affect the adaptive response of those tendons to resistance training?

 

[JJ_ST1N]

Have you tried getting some graston techniques done on your elbow areas? That has helped me out a lot.

 

[alvin1]

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[thebigt]

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topical ICONOGENIN

 

[stimtron]

Ive felt pain in my elbows when doing even moderate weight triceps work for almost two years now and last week my knee flared up whilst doing legs. I’ve been told that a tendon or two in my elbows and left knee are likely prone to inflammation due to strain and I want to find a solution. These days I always warm up my joints before training but that only reduces the pain felt and doesn’t reduce it enough

As taking too many/much oral anti-inflammatories is bad for muscular adaptation, I want to explore the topical route. My plan atm is to apply a topical anti-inflammatory, pain relieving lotion/gel to the problematic area(s) and only the problematic area(s) before workouts involving them.

What I’m wondering is, would doing so negatively affect the adaptive response of those tendons to resistance training?

I've used Erogpharm's Joint Force, ibuprofen and palmitoylethanolamide topically they seem to work very well. Ibu and JF I use on the spot for flareups and pea daily to help it heal up long term. PEA doesn't affect muscles that I know of but it works differently from nsaids. High dose ibu is horrible for muscle recovery so best to use it sparingly.

 

[cheftepesh1]

A good joint support and topical iconogenin

 

[cheftepesh1]

A good joint support and topical iconogenin

 

[u_e_s_i]

Have you tried getting some graston techniques done on your elbow areas? That has helped me out a lot.

No, I’ve only received sports massages. Thanks, I’ll look into those

 

[u_e_s_i]

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topical ICONOGENIN

About laxo. I usually use OL’s dermastrength but have been cycling it. Do you guys not cycle laxo?

Also, do you apply the topical laxo directly to your joints? So far I’ve only applied it directly on my muscles

A good joint support and topical iconogenin

I currently take Controlled Labs’ Orange Triad as my multi which contains

Joint Compex™ 2000mg
Glucosamine Sulfate And Chondroitin Sulfate
Flex Complex™ 1550mg
MSM (Methyl-Sulfonyl-Methane), Bromelain (2000 GDU), And Hyaluronic Acid

Is this sufficient?
I’ve also started taking 3g of collagen peptides daily

 

[thebigt]

I have a sore shoulder and apply iconogenin directly on it.

 

[EMPIREMIND]

Ive felt pain in my elbows when doing even moderate weight triceps work for almost two years now and last week my knee flared up whilst doing legs. I’ve been told that a tendon or two in my elbows and left knee are likely prone to inflammation due to strain and I want to find a solution. These days I always warm up my joints before training but that only reduces the pain felt and doesn’t reduce it enough

As taking too many/much oral anti-inflammatories is bad for muscular adaptation, I want to explore the topical route. My plan atm is to apply a topical anti-inflammatory, pain relieving lotion/gel to the problematic area(s) and only the problematic area(s) before workouts involving them.

What I’m wondering is, would doing so negatively affect the adaptive response of those tendons to resistance training?

Why not explore rest and recovery instead of masking the problem?

 

[EMPIREMIND]

About laxo. I usually use OL’s dermastrength but have been cycling it. Do you guys not cycle laxo?

Also, do you apply the topical laxo directly to your joints? So far I’ve only applied it directly on my muscles



I currently take Controlled Labs’ Orange Triad as my multi which contains

Joint Compex™ 2000mg
Glucosamine Sulfate And Chondroitin Sulfate
Flex Complex™ 1550mg
MSM (Methyl-Sulfonyl-Methane), Bromelain (2000 GDU), And Hyaluronic Acid

Is this sufficient?
I’ve also started taking 3g of collagen peptides daily

For collagen get uc type 2 collagen and take 40mg a day. For other collagen you need 10g or more to be as effective.

Also muscle rubs like icy hot on the joint and then a neoprene sleeve on top before training works really well for guys with nagging issues. Smell like the old guy in the gym, but you can train better.

As I posted already, think about rest and recovery. Cut down your volume and or take some time off to heal up. A week off for me does wonders for me after heavy training phases.

 

[Muckl3]

If your willing to go the more exotic route I would recommend BPC 157.

 

[u_e_s_i]

Why not explore rest and recovery instead of masking the problem?

The elbow pain’s a recurring problem. I spent a week away from the gym whilst travelling and the pain just came back

 

[u_e_s_i]

Awesome, thank you.
I got some volterol yesterday and am hitting chest rn and my elbows feel a lot better. I’ll look into getting one of those neoprene sleeves

 

[u_e_s_i]

For collagen get uc type 2 collagen and take 40mg a day. For other collagen you need 10g or more to be as effective.

Also muscle rubs like icy hot on the joint and then a neoprene sleeve on top before training works really well for guys with nagging issues. Smell like the old guy in the gym, but you can train better.

As I posted already, think about rest and recovery. Cut down your volume and or take some time off to heal up. A week off for me does wonders for me after heavy training phases.

If your willing to go the more exotic route I would recommend BPC 157.

Thanks dude I’ll keep that in mind

 

[u_e_s_i]

For collagen get uc type 2 collagen and take 40mg a day. For other collagen you need 10g or more to be as effective.

Also muscle rubs like icy hot on the joint and then a neoprene sleeve on top before training works really well for guys with nagging issues. Smell like the old guy in the gym, but you can train better.

As I posted already, think about rest and recovery. Cut down your volume and or take some time off to heal up. A week off for me does wonders for me after heavy training phases.

Should UC type 2 collagen be taken with or aside from meals?

 

[Aging Lifter]

I had similar elbow and shoulder pain for years. I tried various cures with no luck. I eventually had to give up my favorite exercise (back squats). The problem has gone away and not returned.

 

[u_e_s_i]

I had similar elbow and shoulder pain for years. I tried various cures with no luck. I eventually had to give up my favorite exercise (back squats). The problem has gone away and not returned.

At least you’re better now man. Good health is worth more than a slighter denser ass and lower back, especially for guys lol

For future reference, and this is still just preliminary research with a sample size of 1 dude, I’ve been applying volterol to my problematic joints 15+minutes pre-workout and taking UC type 2 collagen daily for four/five days now and today when I trained chest and tris, my elbows felt so much better and I murked the workout, setting new PBs across the board. It was utter dirt

Personally if I were you I’d stay away from back squats because there are good replacement exercises for it, but just for future reference

 

[rob112]

I’ll second joint force is nice for some relief