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Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

ax1 said:
The 9/11 hijackers were protected before 9/11."Terrorist" Anwar al-Awlaki the spiritual leader of the 9/11hijackers that we assasinated a few years back was the Pentagon special guest of honor and the FBI was blocked from arresting and interrogating him. We created and now are openly funding and arming Al-Queda the very group we went to all these wars for.

If ISIS is in the USA it doesnt surprise me. They are probably CIA just like the rest of them.

Mark my words.....10-15 years ISIS will openly be our allies to the public and a new terrorist boogieman will be created. Why? Look at our recent history. After everyone was either desensitized or the informed public found out that the war on terror is just a military industrial complex ponzi scheme to take our tax dollars and rape our liberties they need to step up and create the new modern boogieman. Who knows, maybe Putin and the KGB will be next and we will openly give ISIS nukes to fight the Reds.

Just watch old Vietnam news footage, terrorists, terrorists, terrorists, terrorists, ect....continue the status quo until the public wakes up. Look at Vietnam now, some terrorists, lol!
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We've created a monster words of g w bush.
 
bighulksmash said:
Yup all of that i learned recently on rt . If NATO cancels turkeys membership problem gets worse. The USA should team up with Russia and take care of isis, but Obama doesn't the balls to attack turkey in "fear" for our safety. Eliminate isis , world gets to breathe freely again.
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THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN...THE U.S SHOULD TEAM UP WITH RUSSIA AND PUT AN END TO THIS NONSENSE ONCE AND FOR ALL.....it will never happen because Obama knows putin is much smarter and would dominate him, and Obama would be a bit player on the world stage. Obama's ego would never allow that to happen---no matter what the cost,
 
thebigt said:
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN...THE U.S SHOULD TEAM UP WITH RUSSIA AND PUT AN END TO THIS NONSENSE ONCE AND FOR ALL.....it will never happen because Obama knows putin is much smarter and would dominate him, and Obama would be a bit player on the world stage. Obama's ego would never allow that to happen---no matter what the cost,
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BYpass thermal vision by pumping freon into an air tight suit . Anyone care to discuss why this was used in desert strom and op kill bin laden????
 
bighulksmash said:
BYpass thermal vision by pumping freon into an air tight suit . Anyone care to discuss why this was used in desert strom and op kill bin laden????
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Tell me more about the freon, whats that all about?

Bin Laden raid? This whole thread was started over debunking that, lol. Anyways there still was a raid, and the CIA or Pentagon assassinated a big handful of Seal Team 6 later on in Afghan. Im suspicious of that broken chopper at the site too, it may have been an assassination attempt there right at the site.
 
ax1 said:
Tell me more about the freon, whats that all about?

Bin Laden raid? This whole thread was started over debunking that, lol. Anyways there still was a raid, and the CIA or Pentagon assassinated a big handful of Seal Team 6 later on in Afghan. Im suspicious of that broken chopper at the site too, it may have been an assassination attempt there right at the site.
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damn...I never put that together. usually seals go 1st class with the most modern equipment, I always thought it was fishy why they had that seal team riding in an old clunker helicopter that was by no means up to their usual standards???? do you know if it was same seal team who was involved in BL raid?
 
ax1 said:
Tell me more about the freon, whats that all about?

Bin Laden raid? This whole thread was started over debunking that, lol. Anyways there still was a raid, and the CIA or Pentagon assassinated a big handful of Seal Team 6 later on in Afghan. Im suspicious of that broken chopper at the site too, it may have been an assassination attempt there right at the site.
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Warned soon as i posted that to take it down. Freon suits works like a wetsuit in a wetsuit . There is a small pump that pumps freon into the sealed suit causing the thermal vision to miss the heat signature. Its been tested by sfct's , totally invisible to the goggles.
 
bighulksmash said:
Warned soon as i posted that to take it down. Freon suits works like a wetsuit in a wetsuit . There is a small pump that pumps freon into the sealed suit causing the thermal vision to miss the heat signature. Its been tested by sfct's , totally invisible to the goggles.
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very interesting.. wouldn't it have to be exact amount of Freon otherwise it would show as a cold spot?
 
thebigt said:
damn...I never put that together. usually seals go 1st class with the most modern equipment, I always thought it was fishy why they had that seal team riding in an old clunker helicopter that was by no means up to their usual standards???? do you know if it was same seal team who was involved in BL raid?
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Captured and kept alive for information. See all those international captures by the big C and N . After the so called raid . More like extraction and kill the witnesses. There was anothe helicopter that took BL to safety.
 
thebigt said:
damn...I never put that together. usually seals go 1st class with the most modern equipment, I always thought it was fishy why they had that seal team riding in an old clunker helicopter that was by no means up to their usual standards???? do you know if it was same seal team who was involved in BL raid?
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Havent looked into lately, but here I posted back in 2013 how the families think Obama has some responsibility involved...basically they think it was an inside job imo.

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bighulksmash said:
Captured and kept alive for information. See all those international captures by the big C and N . After the so called raid . More like extraction and kill the witnesses. There was anothe helicopter that took BL to safety.
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I assumed he died along time ago for health reasons. Even right before 9/11 he was flown in and out of Pakistan for emergency dialyses.

You make an incredible point. I never believed the Bin Laden raid as stated because what kind of idiot will kill an unarmed man who is the "#1 source" for connections and other possible plans on terrorist attacks. I dont believe if the Military Brass would do such a thing unless under fire and killing Bin Laden would have been a last result only for an emergency of self defense. You take him in and interrogate him. You do what it takes to avoid another terrorist attack, and that all starts with intel.

So, if they took him in for interrogation and put into a secret prison that wouldnt upset me so much. Personally I feel everyone needs due process, and public process because this can cause Pandora box to burst and we can have due process for the American's connected to him so we can set a precedent not to repeat history...but they will simply slap a "National Security" label and completely avoid any constitutional law.
 
ax1 said:
Havent looked into lately, but here I posted back in 2013 how the families think Obama has some responsibility involved...basically they think it was an inside job imo.

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I assumed he died along time ago for health reasons. Even right before 9/11 he was flown in and out of Pakistan for emergency dialyses.

You make an incredible point. I never believed the Bin Laden raid as stated because what kind of idiot will kill an unarmed man who is the "#1 source" for connections and other possible plans on terrorist attacks. I dont believe if the Military Brass would do such a thing unless under fire and killing Bin Laden would have been a last result only for an emergency of self defense. You take him in and interrogate him. You do what it takes to avoid another terrorist attack, and that all starts with intel.

So, if they took him in for interrogation and put into a secret prison that wouldnt upset me so much. Personally I feel everyone needs due process, and public process because this can cause Pandora box to burst and we can have due process for the American's connected to him so we can set a precedent not to repeat history...but they will simply slap a "National Security" label and completely avoid any constitutional law.
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This is where you really freak out. My boss long time blah blah at the blah blah ... says one day at the range type "obama osama" into google and click on images ... i did and i felt this sickness in my stomach like if i was betrayed or lied to ... check it out .
 
Invalid Link Removed like i said Russians were never warned and they were as i said 12 clicks outside the airspace. Fukking turkey did it on purpose.
 
bighulksmash said:
This is where you really freak out. My boss long time blah blah at the blah blah ... says one day at the range type "obama osama" into google and click on images ... i did and i felt this sickness in my stomach like if i was betrayed or lied to ... check it out .
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Damn...they really do look alike. I wanna post one of the funny ones here.

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bighulksmash said:
Invalid Link Removed like i said Russians were never warned and they were as i said 12 clicks outside the airspace. Fukking turkey did it on purpose.
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Do you think they would do something extraordinary like that without an OK from Washington?
 
ax1 said:
Do you think they would do something extraordinary like that without an OK from Washington?
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They didn't consult with anyone. Theres a fake video of a Turkish air traffic controller saying turn around or we will shoot. Then transmission cuts the black box also records radio transmissions .i dont believe turkey even tried. Maybe their mic was off. Lol
 
ax1 said:
Damn...they really do look alike. I wanna post one of the funny ones here.

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on the same note...ever see trump and Hillary in same room together?
 
bighulksmash said:
Invalid Link Removed Russian plane shot down to protect oil trade with isis.
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Doesnt surprise me, they only want to protect their investments same reason the White House doesnt want Russia attacking their own investment they created.

When it all comes down to the dollar and power always trumps human values when it comes to government's own nature.
 
ax1 said:
Doesnt surprise me, they only want to protect their investments same reason the White House doesnt want Russia attacking their own investment they created.

When it all comes down to the dollar and power always trumps human values when it comes to government's own nature.
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all governments are destined to be corrupt, it is the nature of the beast!!!
 
thebigt said:
all governments are destined to be corrupt, it is the nature of the beast!!!
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It was just a year and a half ago that polititions and military in Turkey were planning a false flag attack inside of Turkey to justify invasion of Syria.

After the audio was released on youtube by an independent, Turkey banned youtube!

Here is some of the quotes:

“I’ll make up a cause of war by ordering a missile attack on Turkey,” states Hakan Fidan, the head of Turkish intelligence.

“It’s a direct cause of war. I mean, what we’re going to do is a direct cause of war,” adds Deputy Chief of Military Staff Yasar Guler.

Plans to attack the Suleiman Shah Tomb, which is in Syria but considered Turkish territory and guarded by Turkish special forces, are also discussed, with Al-Qaeda terrorists playing the role of patsies.

“Prime Minister said that in current conjuncture, this attack (on Suleiman Shah Tomb) must be seen as an opportunity for us,” states Ahmet Davutoglu, the Minister of Foreign Affairs.

“We can also prepare an attack on Suleiman Shah Tomb if necessary,” responds Fidan.

“Listen, listen commander if it’s a pretext we’ll give you one. I’ll send over four men and have them fire eight rockets on an empty lot. That’s not the problem! Pretexts can be arranged,” adds Fidan.

Ambassador Feridun Sinirlioglu responds by asserting that the staged attack will have “legitimacy” because it will be seen as a strike against Al-Qaeda and Turkey will have “the whole world backing us”.

“If necessary, we’ll mount an attack against that place (Suleiman Shah Tomb),” states Fidan, adding, “we’ll do the attack up front.”
 
lets be real for a minute....over the past few decades the united states has spent 10's of trillions of dollars on defense systems...it is unimaginable to me that if we were truly at war with radical islam that they wouldn't be wiped from the face of the earth. radical islam is a pawn in the greater scheme of things, imo.

look what we did to Germany and japan...THAT WAS WAR!!!!
 
Russia announced today that it would deploy the latest version of its high-tech doomsday plane, the Ilyushin-80, which is designated for use during nuclear war or national emergencies.


“The flying command center will be able to coordinate the worldwide operations of its ground, naval, air and missile forces, including nuclear weapons, as well as the country’s satellites,” reports Debkafile.

Tensions have continued to build between NATO and the Kremlin since last week’s shoot down of a Russian fighter jet by Turkey.

As we reported yesterday, Russia is now equipping its Su-34 fighters with air-to-air missiles in preparation for potential dogfights with NATO over Syria.
 
cubsfan815 said:
Russia announced today that it would deploy the latest version of its high-tech doomsday plane, the Ilyushin-80, which is designated for use during nuclear war or national emergencies.


“The flying command center will be able to coordinate the worldwide operations of its ground, naval, air and missile forces, including nuclear weapons, as well as the country’s satellites,” reports Debkafile.

Tensions have continued to build between NATO and the Kremlin since last week’s shoot down of a Russian fighter jet by Turkey.

As we reported yesterday, Russia is now equipping its Su-34 fighters with air-to-air missiles in preparation for potential dogfights with NATO over Syria.
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This is just the beginning, its been predicted by the gods that before 2020 hell fire will fill the skies and the waters will run red .
 
cubsfan815 said:
Russia announced today that it would deploy the latest version of its high-tech doomsday plane, the Ilyushin-80, which is designated for use during nuclear war or national emergencies.


“The flying command center will be able to coordinate the worldwide operations of its ground, naval, air and missile forces, including nuclear weapons, as well as the country’s satellites,” reports Debkafile.

Tensions have continued to build between NATO and the Kremlin since last week’s shoot down of a Russian fighter jet by Turkey.

As we reported yesterday, Russia is now equipping its Su-34 fighters with air-to-air missiles in preparation for potential dogfights with NATO over Syria.
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Nice job Obama! The nobel peace prize winning "war is peace" president is more than fulfilling the status quo with endless foreign interventionism, regime changes and making the military industrial complex rich!
 
cubsfan815 said:
Russia announced today that it would deploy the latest version of its high-tech doomsday plane, the Ilyushin-80, which is designated for use during nuclear war or national emergencies.


“The flying command center will be able to coordinate the worldwide operations of its ground, naval, air and missile forces, including nuclear weapons, as well as the country’s satellites,” reports Debkafile.

Tensions have continued to build between NATO and the Kremlin since last week’s shoot down of a Russian fighter jet by Turkey.

As we reported yesterday, Russia is now equipping its Su-34 fighters with air-to-air missiles in preparation for potential dogfights with NATO over Syria.
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Seems like Putin likes to flex his muscles a lot. I have no doubt talks will slow down WW3, but Pytin shows that he means business
 
Jiigzz said:
Seems like Putin likes to flex his muscles a lot. I have no doubt talks will slow down WW3, but Pytin shows that he means business
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I AM AFRAID OF HILLARY CLINTON. Obama can put his ego in check, but what if old Hillary decides she has something to prove and takes things too far.

be afraid, be very afraid...of HILLARY CLINTON!!!
 
thebigt said:
I AM AFRAID OF HILLARY CLINTON. Obama can put his ego in check, but what if old Hillary decides she has something to prove and takes things too far.

be afraid, be very afraid...of HILLARY CLINTON!!!
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I dont even know how she is allowed to run. She needs to be in prison for corruption, war crimes, treason, obstruction of justice and more.
 
ax1 said:
I dont even know how she is allowed to run. She needs to be in prison for corruption, war crimes, treason, obstruction of justice and more.
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she scares the hell out of me....she is going to go into the presidential office with something to prove, and it's going to turn out bad-real bad!!!
 
ax1 said:
I dont even know how she is allowed to run. She needs to be in prison for corruption, war crimes, treason, obstruction of justice and more.
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TBH all of the candidates except Trump seek to make relations with Russia worse/ no better. And Trump will bring many other issues with him as well.
 
Just some quotes:

Jeb Bush:

Republican Jeb Bush vowed on Tuesday to take a more aggressive approach to countering Russia if he is elected president next year, calling Vladimir Putin an "agile adversary" who is exploiting a vacuum of U.S. leadership in Syria and elsewhere
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Hillary Clinton
On foreign policy, she’ll take a tough line on Russia; President Vladimir Putin and the Clintons show a reciprocal animosity. She’ll call for more engagement with China and, to the consternation of labor supporters, she will back trade deals, but with some conditions
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Bernie Sanders
Bernie believes the United States should isolate Putin politically and economically. In March 2014, Bernie commended President Obama on sanctions levied against Russian leaders after voters in the Crimea region supported a Russian-backed referendum to secede from Ukraine. At the time, Bernie said:

“The entire world has got to stand up to Putin. We’ve got to deal with sanctions. There are a number of things that you could do. But this is what you don’t do: You don’t go to war. You don’t sacrifice lives of young people in this country as we did in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
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Ben Carson
The Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson said on Sunday he would not rule out the use of military force against Russia, but added that it should be used only if the safety of the United States was clearly at risk.

“I would, obviously, do that in consultation with very competent generals and people who are more knowledgeable in that area than I would be,” said Carson, who has called Russian president Vladimir Putin a bully.

“But, clearly, if the interest and the existence and the safety of the people of the United States was at stake – and that was the only way to protect them – of course, I would do whatever was necessary.”
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Donald Trump
Donald Trump aligned himself with Vladimir Putin on Tuesday, saying that Turkey appears to be on the side of the Islamic State.

“Turkey looks like they’re on the side of ISIS, more or less based on the oil,” Trump said Tuesday morning in an interview with Sirius XM's "Breitbart News Daily," echoing comments from the Russian president on Monday.


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Good post Jiigz. Most of them scare the crap out of me.

I think Rand Paul may be the only other that may improve relations with Russia when it comes to Dems/Repubs.
 
trump understands that an alliance with putin is the best way to deal with radical islam!!!
 
bighulksmash said:
that's a good question ! I think he is personally riding out the rest of his term . keep in mind the person we elected is not catholic or Christian .
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I tend to agree...Obama wants his legacy to be based on domestic issues....personally I feel domestically is where he has done the most harm, but apparently there are those who would disagree!!!
 
bighulksmash said:
that's a good question ! I think he is personally riding out the rest of his term . keep in mind the person we elected is not catholic or Christian .
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I tend to agree...Obama wants his legacy to be based on domestic issues....personally I feel domestically is where he has done the most harm, but apparently there are those who would disagree!!!
 
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