Too many injectables? Or good stack?
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Tom 185
Well-known member
exactly what he said
i wouldnt even use the props at the beginning if ur gonna have an oral...id switch them both to the end and run the deca 14 weeks minimum from what i've read
i've never used deca or masteron, but i wouldnt stack them...i'll let someone else that knows better than me answer that one
same_old
Banned
deca and masteron are sort of an odd pair - one is entirely for bulk, the other is strictly for shreds, vascularity and crispness. BUT there's no reason you cant use them together. i personally would use the mast prop in a winny-esque capacity, that is, the last 5-6 weeks to harden up after the pure bulk stage.
and i agree on the Tprop - nothing wrong with using it for 3-4 weeks, but by then the long ester has kicked in and it's unnecessary...plus after those 3-4 weeks you can go back to pinning only 2x/week instead of EOD.
pistonpump
Banned
sorry no actual experience with the last two but NPP (deca prop) is said to give lean gains. How about this (because i like to design cycles)?
1-4 tbol/dbol
1-12 test e
5-9 npp or 1-12 deca
10-14 mast prop
Tom 185
Well-known member
haha me too and i like the looks of that one
Ubiquitous
Registered User
I've used those compounds.. and together..
You don't need Deca in that stack, especially if you aren't familiar with how you react to what you already have designed.
Piston, Nandrolone Phenylprop is Nandrolone .....and Nandrolone is Nandrolone, be it Decanoate or PhenylPropionate
The gains are slow and steady with it.. a lot of people get very bloated with it's use... LBM gains are LBM gains, but I would run any NPP cycle longer than 4 weeks in my opinion... If it was straight Test Prop and NPP, I would go 8 weeks.
I do see some logic to running the Prop Preps 1-6 as Enan takes that long for me to rear it's pretty head... for me at least. I would only use Test Prop at the beginning and save the Drost Prop for the tail end if I was bookending the cycle with the Props though.
**optional 1-6 Test Prop***
Dbol 1-4
Test Enanthate 1-12
Drost Enanthate 1-12
Test Prop 12-15
Mast Prop 12-15
post cycle therapy 16-18,19
You don't need Deca in that stack, especially if you aren't familiar with how you react to what you already have designed.
Piston, Nandrolone Phenylprop is Nandrolone .....and Nandrolone is Nandrolone, be it Decanoate or PhenylPropionate
The gains are slow and steady with it.. a lot of people get very bloated with it's use... LBM gains are LBM gains, but I would run any NPP cycle longer than 4 weeks in my opinion... If it was straight Test Prop and NPP, I would go 8 weeks.
I do see some logic to running the Prop Preps 1-6 as Enan takes that long for me to rear it's pretty head... for me at least. I would only use Test Prop at the beginning and save the Drost Prop for the tail end if I was bookending the cycle with the Props though.
**optional 1-6 Test Prop***
Dbol 1-4
Test Enanthate 1-12
Drost Enanthate 1-12
Test Prop 12-15
Mast Prop 12-15
post cycle therapy 16-18,19
jvb20
Member
if you like the test to kick in quicker then prop would be fine with the dbol... im using 40mg dbol and 100 mg prop every other day for the first 4 weeks.. also using test e and eq...
but i would not use mast e or mast prop no sence just the test e would be fine with the dbol and prop
pistonpump
Banned
ubi your experience out does me once again.
how are your feelings on masteron use other than pre-contest or real low bf%.
how are your feelings on masteron use other than pre-contest or real low bf%.
Ubiquitous
Registered User
I only speak from my experience my friend. 
It can be useful. I've used it at 12ish% before. I use it at the end of cycles to bind SHBG up, allowing the rest of my compounds to work their magic unbound. You will notice a change even if you're not contest shape. You just look more jacked, more dry... You'll have mega-super-boners more often... it has it's place, it's just looked upon as trivial because most people don't see the bang for their buck. It's expensive in their circles perhaps.
It can be useful. I've used it at 12ish% before. I use it at the end of cycles to bind SHBG up, allowing the rest of my compounds to work their magic unbound. You will notice a change even if you're not contest shape. You just look more jacked, more dry... You'll have mega-super-boners more often... it has it's place, it's just looked upon as trivial because most people don't see the bang for their buck. It's expensive in their circles perhaps.