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kwyckemynd00

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I'm not going to comment...yet. I just had to post this when I saw it, roflmao.

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Jihad at San Francisco State
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FrontPageMagazine.com | November 8, 2004Chris Finarelli could barely believe his own eyes last Wednesday. As Vice President of the College Republican Club at

San FranciscoStateUniversity, Finarelli showed up at the student union building that morning to help table and distribute literature to solicit new club members after President Bush’s victory the previous election day. What he found was a noisy and menacing mob of over 300 Palestinian, Arab, Muslim and radical leftist students surrounding his club’s table being held back by 13 San Francisco State police officers. The police officers were forced to surround the CR’s table both in front and in back in order to protect the conservative students’ safety. Invalid Link Removed



The previous Monday, the day before the election, the CR’s were physically attacked while handing out Bush/Cheney materials in the University’s Malcolm X Plaza. On that day, Victor Traycey, one of the members of the conservative club, was slapped by Nala Gardizi, an Arab woman student who was part of an entourage led by four Palestinian women who accused the conservative students of being responsible for the “murder of Palestinian babies� due to their support for President Bush. In addition, food was thrown at the Republican college students and drinks poured over the campaign materials on their table. Gardizi harangued Victor Traycey that day and even called him “a Nazi,� according to eye-witness reports.



Lee Wolf, another College Republicans member, described one of the women on Monday as shouting, “The only way we can defeat you is to kill as many as possible! I’d rather die a suicide bomber’s death than to call myself an American!� He continued, “In my opinion, these were terrorist threats.�



On Wednesday, Gardizi was back. “She was ranting that 9/11 was the fault of the United States,� according to Finarelli.



The General Union of Palestinian Students (GUPS) at S.F. State was staging this noisy demonstration on Wednesday as a follow-up to their Monday afternoon attack on the conservative students by calling for the complete removal of the Republican Club from the SFSU campus. Flyers were even distributed all over campus that bore inscriptions such as “Don’t Let the College Republicans Commit Racism and Bigotry Against Arab Women.�





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Other flyers claimed that the College Republican Club was run by “bigots and racists.�



SFSU President Robert Corrigan took no action against the GUPS or individual students involved in Monday’s assault despite police eye-witnesses and even photographs of the perpetrators. Nor were the GUPS told not interfere with the ability of the College Republicans to exercise their rights of free speech. In fact, during the earlier attack on Monday, the police asked the College Republicans if they would leave rather than arresting their attackers.



“They were all around us wearing black and white keffiyahs like Arafat wears,� said Finarelli about Wednesday’s latest assault.





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Derek Wray, another member of the CR’s, commented that people had been spying on meetings of the College Republicans for weeks prior to the election and questioned if what was happening had not been planned in advance to remove the conservative group from the campus. He mentioned that his chapter of the College Republicans was on one of the most radicalized campuses in America. Lee Wolfe commented that the demonstrators all had new PLO flags that were neatly folded and unused, as if they had just been brought for a specific purpose.



“We don’t even deal with the Israel/Palestinian dispute that much in our discussions and materials,� Wray said. “We don’t even have any Jewish members as far as I know, although we do promote a conservative political agenda.� Wray also told me how a female member of the College Republicans received a threat during the demonstration. “Watch what happens when the police aren’t around, b---h!� he said someone menaced.



“We’re going to the police again to ask for protection. They say they’re going to have another demonstration and drive us off campus.�



Another member of the SFSU College Republicans who was present at the demonstrations also told me he has received death threats since the incident and wished to remain anonymous out of fear.



Finarelli further described what happened: “At one point, one student jumped up on an adjacent table and shouted, ‘We’re going to gather thousands of people and show them what we’re all about!’ And then he directed a remark at a campus police officer by shouting, ‘Did you hear that, you f---ing pig!?’� Students were urged to strike by not attending classes and marched around campus seeking to increase their numbers. “But they never got into the thousands like they said they would. At least by marching they gave us a bit of a breather,� Wolf said.





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Ellen Griffin, a media spokeswoman for SFSU, described Wednesday’s demonstration as an “unauthorized event� that occurred spontaneously on the campus. She also claimed the GUPS maintained they were not involved in Monday’s attack. A call by this reporter to the GUPS office on campus went unanswered. An additional call to Nala Gardizi only netted an answering machine.



Other descriptions of signs carried at the “spontaneous� event bore such inscriptions as

“Zionism is Hitler,� “Bush is Hitler,� “Racists and Murderers Off Campus,� “Republicans Off Campus,� and also “RepubliKKKans Off Campus.�



Although the GUPS were supposedly present at this demonstration and denied culpability for the earlier attacks on the CR’s, they offered no condemnation of such attacks. They were also joined by radical activists from groups like Students Against War and International Answer.





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When I asked Ellen Griffin for a membership list of the GUPS to identify members by photos taken at the scene, she maintained the University does not have full membership lists of clubs on campus, only of officers. However, Finarelli maintains the University has such lists, that they are required to instate any clubs and that the GUPS have a permanent office in the student union that requires such a list to allow for entry.



Campus President Robert Corrigan has a lackluster reputation for meting out discipline to the GUPS despite an earlier attack on Jewish students during a pro-Israel rally at SFSU when the off campus city police needed to be called in to protect Jewish students and escort them to safety. Corrigan did suspend the GUPS for one year, but did not require them to relinquish their office on campus to other active campus student groups. In addition, a Jewish student, Tatiana Menaker, was equally “disciplined� by the administration for responding to her tormentors. Her punishment, as signed off on by Corrigan’s administration, was 40 hours of community service, but it stipulated that no such public service could be performed for Jewish organizations. Ellen Griffin told this reporter that Victor Traycey, one of the College Republicans, although he was slapped by Ms.Gardizi, would also be facing the same disciplinary hearing and potential punishment as his attacker despite his being the victim of a physical assault. Such disciplinary procedures can harm a student’s academic career.



Ms. Gardizi filed a police report in which she alleged she was attacked by Traycey; however, several witnesses at the scene say they saw Ms.Gardizi instigate the violence and the police report says she had to be restrained and removed by the other three Arab women who approached the table. Both Traycey and Gardizi declined to press any criminal charges.



Calls to President Corrigan and Campus Police Chief Kimberly Wible for comments were both referred to Ellen Griffin’s office.
 
Damn people are nuts. I would of probably voted for Kerry but that doesn't mean I would go around starting **** with Bush supportes. All I know is if someone was shouting in my face or tried threatening me just because I didn't believe what they beleived I'd stomp a mud hole in their ass. Some people really need to learn what America is all about. I guess some don't know what the word freedom means.
 
So if I'm getting this right, they're waving another countries flag in MY country telling a group of college students what they can and cannot say and threatening women? Somebody needs to let them know what that this ain't the middle east and teach them what freedom of speech is by kicking in there effing teeth, revoking whatever visa they may or may not have, and put them on an innertube and shove them off to the mideast. Protesting is one thing, and your right as an american, but threatening people and using violence against capuccino sipping coffeee students is another. These people are idiots. Screw them and their "cause."
 
I'm not a republican, but I'd be a college republican just so I could beat the living **** out of those mofos when they started **** with me:smite:.
 
I just don't get how people like that think that republicans are the bigots and are ignorant people. They are so blinded by there own ignorance. I say deport there ass and make 'em proud to have the privelege to even speak in this country
 
Some of the Palestinian chicks are kinda hot. I'd prey on them with the whole "Make love not war." approach. Hehe.

I'm not a Bush fan at all but inappropriate behavor is inappropriate behavior. Reps have the right to assemble just like anyone else.
 
this would be the time that i would like to walk in the middle sporting an "i love bush" t-shirt. bunch of fucks.
 
Send them back to the middle east, let them see what kind of rights they have there. Especially the women, slap a man over there and they'll get thier hand chopped off. If these people hate this country so much why the **** are they here?
 
bioman said:
Some of the Palestinian chicks are kinda hot. I'd prey on them with the whole "Make love not war." approach. Hehe.

I'm not a Bush fan at all but inappropriate behavor is inappropriate behavior. Reps have the right to assemble just like anyone else.
HeHe!! Now that's the type of thinking I can relate to!!:thumbsup:
 
bioman said:
Some of the Palestinian chicks are kinda hot. I'd prey on them with the whole "Make love not war." approach. Hehe....
He, he...I'd have no problem taking that approach if I saw a few that looked really good. But from what I saw in the crowd pics, I was hoping they'd go traditional and cover their faces :rofl:
 
dont be outraged, they live miserible lives if they can't appriciate our country
 
jarhead said:
So if I'm getting this right, they're waving another countries flag in MY country telling a group of college students what they can and cannot say and threatening women? Somebody needs to let them know what that this ain't the middle east and teach them what freedom of speech is by kicking in there effing teeth, revoking whatever visa they may or may not have, and put them on an innertube and shove them off to the mideast. Protesting is one thing, and your right as an american, but threatening people and using violence against capuccino sipping coffeee students is another. These people are idiots. Screw them and their "cause."
Wow, that is exactly how I feel. I am just glad that **** doesn't happen where I attend... I hate jail.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
There is diversity and tolerance for you.
If they had showed up and exercised their right to protest in a peaceful manner, that's one thing. But I don't think we should be tolerant of a mob threatening violence against women or the men for that matter because they join some college republican group. Their hypocrisy is the worst part- "don't join this group because republicans are responsible for violence against my people or I will be violent against you." I guess it's just that wacky mideast mentality, to them that seems logical.
 
Lucky i wasent there i would of go arrested for kickin that ass. If they dont like living here i will personally pay for them to be sent back to middle east. F'in bastards
 
the truth is that many republicans do act out against minorities in their policy. Many issues of domestic and foreign policy which are handled by the conservative republicans send negative backlashes against minorities and immigrants, even Anglo/white immigrants. the majority of racist bigots ally themselves with the right wing, religious nuts. In Arizona basic human rights are being denied to predominantly Mexican immigrants. Many republicans dislike illegal immigrants, but they fail to see that our society would crumble without these hard working people. I support Palestine's right to exist freely of Israel, but blaming all republicans is not the right way. many Palestinians dislike republicans because this president(Republican) has given enormous amount of money and support to Israel and al but ignored the needs and concerns of the Palestinians.
 
Iron Warrior said:
the truth is that many republicans do act out against minorities in their policy.
I do not believe this. I tend to believe that "republicans" ignore race as an issue and the "ignoring" becomes the issue that drives the claim of racism.
 
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I do not believe this. I tend to believe that "republicans" ignore race as an issue and the "ignoring" becomes the issue that drives the claim of racism.

I agree. True republicans are for 100% equality of race.

I feel the same way. Why should a black student have more opportunities for a college scholarship than a white student? I feel everything should be totally equal.
 
Iron Warrior said:
In Arizona basic human rights are being denied to predominantly Mexican immigrants.
I assume you are referring to proposition 200. And I assume you haven't actually taken the time to research what it is about. No "basic human rights" are being touched by this initiative. It simply asks for proof of citizenship before allowing access to voting and other state mandated public benefits. What is sad is that this proposition ever even had to be passed; these are things that never should have been happening in the first place.

And also it is aimed at ALL ILLEGAL immigrants, regardless of their ethnicity.

Live in Phoenix for a few years and I am POSITIVE your views on immigration policy will change very quickly. Regardless of political party, every single person I know there (I grew up there) has pretty much the same view across the board. It is definitely not a republican vs democrat issue. If it was, it never would have passed with such a majority.

Damn... now I'm all pissed off... guess I should go workout.
 
Iron Warrior said:
the truth is that many republicans do act out against minorities in their policy. Many issues of domestic and foreign policy which are handled by the conservative republicans send negative backlashes against minorities and immigrants, even Anglo/white immigrants.
How so?

the majority of racist bigots ally themselves with the right wing, religious nuts.
Does this include racist bigots like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton? How about the historical fact that the Republican party came to power on the issue of ending slavery, it was that wedge issue that finally brought them minor third party to major party status. The issue of racism is usually turned on its head, with Repblicans being called racists for wanting the same standards across the boards for everything and everybody, regardless of race, whereas Democrats want special privileges granted to minorities. If racism and racial discrimination are wrong then they are wrong period. You can't fix a past wrong by doing the same exact wrong thing but in reverse in the present.

In Arizona basic human rights are being denied to predominantly Mexican immigrants. Many republicans dislike illegal immigrants, but they fail to see that our society would crumble without these hard working people.[/QUOTE

As someone has already pointed out that proposition is to ensure citizenship before being allowed to vote, and it applies across the boards to all illegal immigrants, and it's not racist it's common sense.
 
Iron Warrior said:
Many republicans dislike illegal immigrants, but they fail to see that our society would crumble without these hard working people.
I am still trying to figure this one out. Would you care to elaborate?
 
the truth is that many republicans do act out against minorities in their policy. Many issues of domestic and foreign policy which are handled by the conservative republicans send negative backlashes against minorities and immigrants, even Anglo/white immigrants. the majority of racist bigots ally themselves with the right wing, religious nuts. In Arizona basic human rights are being denied to predominantly Mexican immigrants. Many republicans dislike illegal immigrants, but they fail to see that our society would crumble without these hard working people. I support Palestine's right to exist freely of Israel, but blaming all republicans is not the right way. many Palestinians dislike republicans because this president(Republican) has given enormous amount of money and support to Israel and al but ignored the needs and concerns of the Palestinians.
It's actually they other way around. Do you think minorities are too stupid to compete with everyone else? That's what affirmative actions says. It says minorities couldn't possibly get as good grades or test as well as white people so the bar has to be lowered for them. They get 100 points on their college admissions for simply because of the color of their skin. Taking merit out of the equation not only hurts them it hurts us.
How about welfare................. it was first called relief , then called welfare, and now they call it entitlements. It was originally designed for people that lost their jobs. Then democrats said welfare would get minorities out of poverty. It hasn't done this and has enslaved them to depend on the government for everything.
Much of what you said regarding immigration is a bunch of liberal mantras that aren't true. Does basic human rights imply that it is a human right to come into this country illegally? I am assuming when you say immigrant you are talking about illegal immigration. The first word is illegal......... hence they came into this country illegally or broke they law to come in here. They should not be rewarded for that. Letting them in is an insult to people who play by the rules to get into this country.
One democratic mantra is we need these people do the jobs that our people don't want to do and our country will fall apart without them.It is not true that we need these people in our country. The truth is they cost us billions of dollars every year. We have to pay for their health care when they go to the emergency room, their lawyer and the court cost if they break the law ( many of them do), jail if they go to prison, for their children to go to school, and more often then not they go on welfare the minute they come here. The other false presumption is that the country will fall apart with out them. The reality is that illegal immigration artificially drives down wages. Why hire someone at a good wage when you have many people who will work for half that? If you cut off the illegals coming into this country it forces them to bring the wages up to a point were people will do the job.
There was a story in Time magazine about a town that offers the best welfare in the country. There were so many illegal immigrants going into the town it bankrupted them. In other words there wasn't enough people paying taxes and too many illegal immigrants leaching off the system. Instead of letting people with no skills in the country who cost us billions, wouldn't we want to bring the best of the best in from other countries that will actually contribute something?
 
If they had showed up and exercised their right to protest in a peaceful manner, that's one thing. But I don't think we should be tolerant of a mob threatening violence against women or the men for that matter because they join some college republican group. Their hypocrisy is the worst part- "don't join this group because republicans are responsible for violence against my people or I will be violent against you." I guess it's just that wacky mideast mentality, to them that seems logical.
I was referring to the hypocrisy of the educational system. There are always preaching for tolerance and diversity, yet they are never very tolerant of people they disagree with or tolerant for a diversity of opinions.
 
Does this include racist bigots like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton?
Did you hear Jackson after the election? You generally need a translator to understand him. He basically said that the "Christian right" weren't good Christians because they didn't support welfare and or socialism.
 
This may sound stupid but I did not write that, my brother says he knows politics and wrote under my name. I don't even know about what he wrote. I'll try to get him to sign in with his own name if he really wants to discuss this.

BTW, how can I change my settings so he won't do this again ? If anyone truly knows me, they know I don't know **** about politics.
 
Iron Warrior said:
BTW, how can I change my settings so he won't do this again ?
You can change your password, and do not give it out this time cause it is the last one you get young man. Then sign out everytime you leave.
 
Billy the kid said:
You can change your password, and do not give it out this time cause it is the last one you get young man. Then sign out everytime you leave.
He didn't know my password it must be the sign out part then since I never sign out. A good talk should help though :twisted:
 
Iron Warrior said:
This may sound stupid but I did not write that, my brother says he knows politics and wrote under my name. I don't even know about what he wrote. I'll try to get him to sign in with his own name if he really wants to discuss this.

BTW, how can I change my settings so he won't do this again ? If anyone truly knows me, they know I don't know **** about politics.
Just slap him around a bit.... :twisted:

There's an option to "automatically login each visit" or something like that when you're asked to login, just don't check this option.

Also, you can just log out when you're done.
 
Kwyckemynd you sure know how to post up stuff that pisses me off to no end. Why we let people like this stay in our Country is beyond me.
 
NPursuit said:
Kwyckemynd you sure know how to post up stuff that pisses me off to no end. Why we let people like this stay in our Country is beyond me.
:D What can I say, I try :D

My problem is that this kind of stuff "doesn't piss off enough people".

Too many people try to make excuses for these people. I say acclimate or GTF OUT! But, that's just MHO :D
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
I say acclimate or GTF OUT! But, that's just MHO :D
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

That's the spirit. I think more people agree with you than you think, but they won't admit it because it's not PC
 
Ahh...PC...oh how I hate being PC. Why the fvck do I have to call an illegal immigrant something as stupid as an "undocumented citizen" (oxymoron anyone??). I hate being PC...

I'm starting to think PC is just some underground slang for speech suppression. :D

Anyway, I"m glad to hear so many people agree with me (on a bodybuilding forum). Maybe my pessimism comes from my being on a college campus all day :p Ha, ha...
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Anyway, I"m glad to hear so many people agree with me (on a bodybuilding forum). Maybe my pessimism comes from my being on a college campus all day :p Ha, ha...
You just go to the wrong university ;) My campus (Texas A&M) is very conservative... Pretty much the opposite of the SFSU campus (where all that mess happened) except we do not persecute those that have different opinions, simply disagree with them.
 
TheUsual said:
You just go to the wrong university ;) My campus (Texas A&M) is very conservative... Pretty much the opposite of the SFSU campus (where all that mess happened) except we do not persecute those that have different opinions, simply disagree with them.
;) LOL. Wait...you're telling me you guys don't actually lash out against those people which you disagree with? Geee...I never woulda thunk it? :think:
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
I say acclimate or GTF OUT! But, that's just MHO :D
For real, it's easier if 50 million people adapt to 250 million people rather than 250 million people adapting to 50 million people
 
Iron Warrior said:
For real, it's easier if 50 million people adapt to 250 million people rather than 250 million people adapting to 50 million people
BINGO! :D Not to mention that 50 million didn't just show up all at once...they've had plenty of time to adapt to America's society and culture, yet they refuse. I still get extremely bothered, being a Californian, when I meet people who've lived her for 40 years and still can't speak english!!! Or when I get to a drive thru, and the mofo doesn't make any sense b/c he can't speak english and then he's an asshole to boot! (Happens all the damn time!!!) I hate fast food for more than just health reasons now ;) I was at Del Taco (yeah, I know...real healthy) the other day...well ,a couple days in a row, ha, ha..and the damn ladies cookin' my food (they spoke SOME english) kept lookin' at me like they were going to spit in it...I was polite as hell, too. I always am. That **** pisses me off :rant: it happens everywhere I go! Then when somebody comes in and starts spouting off spanish to them, they look like they just had an orgasm....GRRRRRRR!!!!
 
NPursuit said:
Kwyckemynd you sure know how to post up stuff that pisses me off to no end. Why we let people like this stay in our Country is beyond me.

WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!!!!!!
 
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