Tips for on cycle lethargy?

[jrock645]

On an oral and TD cycle at the moment. About two weeks to go. I’ll never cycle without pinning test again, so no need to lecture me on that.

Anyone have any tricks to feel better, or is just sucking it up all there is on the table? I’m running supports and making sure to get plenty of sleep.

 

[jrock645]

What’s you AI?

EstroStrike and exem. I’ve cut back on it to see if that helps. Joints are really dry and creaky and not noticing any puffy look.

 

[Renew1]

What are your compounds?

 

[jrock645]

What are your compounds?

Havoc, 11oxo, var and td trest.

 

[Highlanda01602]

What is your dosage on the TD Trest?

Many have found it to be a very similar, if often superior in how they "feel" to injectable testosterone.

With the methyl groups in there, you may be feeling lethargic due to tax on the liver, and general health. Not a cycle that would pummel you into the dirt, but we forget sometimes that these compounds demand *much* of our body.

 

[Renew1]

I agree that it could be toxicity. And Trest is generally outstanding as a "Test (type)Base".

But I'd probably try backing off the AI some.

 

[jrock645]

I agree that it could be toxicity. And Trest is generally outstanding as a "Test (type)Base".

But I'd probably try backing off the AI some.

That’s why I did the trest for this. DMZ a few months ago was hell. Like I said, next time I’m pinning.

I’ll skip the AI for a couple days and see if things ease up. I’ll also double dose the TUDCA and cycle support.

 

[jrock645]

What is your dosage on the TD Trest?

Many have found it to be a very similar, if often superior in how they "feel" to injectable testosterone.

With the methyl groups in there, you may be feeling lethargic due to tax on the liver, and general health. Not a cycle that would pummel you into the dirt, but we forget sometimes that these compounds demand *much* of our body.

I started at about 50mg but have gradually added a bit more. It’s the Olympus labs stuff so it’s hard to be exact measuring in partial pumps.

 

[Sheriff Morri]

Why did you run an AI? Did you start developing sides?

 

[jrock645]

Why did you run an AI? Did you start developing sides?

My understanding is that trest pretty much requires one.

 

[Smont]

I agree that it could be toxicity. And Trest is generally outstanding as a "Test (type)Base".

But I'd probably try backing off the AI some.

Unless hes drinking or doing other stuff to tax the liver on top i doubt its toxicity. That term gets tossed around way too much. Orals do not nearly as much liver damage as ppl parrot from what they herd online. Guys take 150-200 mg of anadrol or dbol a day with no issues.

On a side note here, theres plenty of ppl that trest does not keep up energy for and libido after a few weeks and that is more likely the case here.

With only 2 weeks left just stick it out

 

[Smont]

That’s why I did the trest for this. DMZ a few months ago was hell. Like I said, next time I’m pinning.

I’ll skip the AI for a couple days and see if things ease up. I’ll also double dose the TUDCA and cycle support.

Save upping the tudca till after the cycle. It will be more benifitial then and your liver is probly fine to begin with

 

[Smont]

My understanding is that trest pretty much requires one.

Not always

 

[jrock645]

Unless hes drinking or doing other stuff to tax the liver on top i doubt its toxicity. That term gets tossed around way too much. Orals do not nearly as much liver damage as ppl parrot from what they herd online. Guys take 150-200 mg of anadrol or dbol a day with no issues.

On a side note here, theres plenty of ppl that trest does not keep up energy for and libido after a few weeks and that is more likely the case here.

With only 2 weeks left just stick it out

I was fortunate to get free tickets- box seats- to an NBA game a week ago. Had 4 beers watching the game but otherwise no alcohol or any of that sorta thing at all.

 

[Smont]

I was fortunate to get free tickets- box seats- to an NBA game a week ago. Had 4 beers watching the game but otherwise no alcohol or any of that sorta thing at all.

That wont do ****. I got buddies tjat are on a ton of gear and get ****ed up every weekend. Liver enzymes in check and no tudca what so ever.

 

[jrock645]

That wont do ****. I got buddies tjat are on a ton of gear and get ****ed up every weekend. Liver enzymes in check and no tudca what so ever.

Yeah, I really didn’t see any way having a handful one day would cause any problem.

 

[Renew1]

Yeah, well I wasn't parroting anything. I stand by what I said.

 

[Smont]

Yeah, well I wasn't parroting anything. I stand by what I said.

I was talking about ppl in general, not pointing the finger directly at you

 

[YoungThor]

Yeah, and people with wasting diseases like AIDS sometimes get prescribed anadrol indefinitely, running it for years, and their quality of life improves significantly. Obviously, having a fukked up liver is better than dying from AIDS but I think the extent to which you can feel your liver being taxed is blown out of proportion, like Smont said. I’m also not attacking anyone here. It might have more to do with the trest shutting you down but not functioning as a sufficient base for you like it does with many other people. Are you having issues like ED also?

 

[jrock645]

Equipment works but i dont have much interest in sex. Really dont have much interest in a whole lot of anything.

 

[Mathb33]

1g of caffeine daily baby

 

[jrock645]

Stimulants bro... Find one that smooth and has long legs and has some kick in it. Not necessarily something that's going to make your heart pound out of your chest.

Well im cutting so running ECA. Helps somewhat.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Its probably the havoc. If your'e on trest that's better than test IMO so it has nothing to do with not having a test base. EPI makes me super lethargic, you might wanna back off to PWO only like I did. Fixed my problem.

 

[Whisky]

1g of caffeine daily baby

Yeah was thinking the same......that’s the way I always go haha

 

[jrock645]

Its probably the havoc. If your'e on trest that's better than test IMO so it has nothing to do with not having a test base. EPI makes me super lethargic, you might wanna back off to PWO only like I did. Fixed my problem.

Im only at 30mg on the havoc

 

[Abe Lincoln]

Try eating some fruits and get some electrolytes in your system.
Drink more water. Also some cialsis.

I've run methly tren for weeks and did the above and energy never dipped. I also used test, but yeah.

 

[Renew1]

I was talking about ppl in general, not pointing the finger directly at you

Oh, sorry man.

The past 3 days I've been a little short tempered/sensative.

Ugh.

 

[Smont]

Oh, sorry man.

The past 3 days I've been a little short tempered/sensative.

Ugh.

It's ok I'm not easily offended

 

[jrock645]

Try eating some fruits and get some electrolytes in your system.
Drink more water. Also some cialsis.

I've run methly tren for weeks and did the above and energy never dipped. I also used test, but yeah.

I’m on keto at about 1800 calls a day, so no fruit for me. I’ll try the electrolytes, just got some LyteShow recently.

Skipping the AI for a couple days seems to have helped, feel like I’m lifting from the fog a little from the weekend to now.

 

[jrock645]

Today marks 4 weeks and im jumping off. Not sleeping well, lethargic, no appetite and its making work and everyday stuff difficult.

 

[Kratom267]

Even 100mg Test (my TRT) isn’t helping too much with my cycle’s lethargy right now.

 

[dvw]

Take trestolone in 3 doses spread throughout day. Caffeine.

 

[AndroRage]

Today marks 4 weeks and im jumping off. Not sleeping well, lethargic, no appetite and its making work and everyday stuff difficult.

Did you ever find a way around the lethargy Bro?

 

[Mathb33]

Did you ever find a way around the lethargy Bro?

Jrock is not here anymore. He was banned