thoughts on this cycle.

[jtbull]

Ok guys here is a new cycle i am thinking of running. Done simlialr; before. I am 50 been on trt since 44 and after 1 year ran two cycles a year. I have only ran test ( c, e, sust) equipoise, and deca and or npp. orally only dboll. ON 200mg trt a week and that is included in total test i give here

so it will be 15 weeks and going to throw a couple scenarious in there for you guys
1-15 Tesosterone 600mg a week could do 800 likely 600 though sun 200 rest tu and thur pin equal dose
1-12 Deca 500mg will do 250 on tu and 250 thur
13-15 450mg npp ( purely becuase of the shorter half life for my trt blood work
1-6 25 mg a day of oral winstrol ( i am debating up to 50mg but never ran it b4. i have 25mg pills 100 of them so if someone has antoher idea let me know

I normally do not need an ai during my trt never had issues even on cycle but i am going to run .5mg adex like evey 4 days unloess someone has abetter idea. now my prolactin does run hihger but my doc has not been worried about it and no side effects

I am going to use 5% organ defender for the whole cycle QUESTION can i take the organ defender and winstroal at the same time and i dont need an empty stomachh ofr either do i?


now i bought some tren ace. at first i was going to do 150 a week pinning 3x a week 50mg i have been told that would be ok and i did not have to eod. hear alot about tren and lots going on. NOw if i did run tren i figured i would drop the deca to no more than like 375 or maybe even 250 anythougths on the cycle as is or the tren idea i had. also could i run tren the whole 15 weeks never ran it b4. if idont run it ( unless someone gives me a great idea here) i will likely run it with my next cycle wthich will be test/eq/tren likely 800, 600, 150 to start see how i react and keep going up to maybe 300.

Now one lab makes a premix its 200 test i think, 200 deca. 100 tren E and it seems popular so i would sort of be duplicating that here but iknow tren does have many issues. my heaviest cycle was 1000mg test, 625 eq, 400 deca and 6 weeks 30mg day of dboll and no side effects lboods good ect.

Also i will be testsed for trt and they ONLY CARE about my total t so how long after cycle is done should numbers return to under 1000 total t?


I MIGHT run an 8 week cycle of clen. debating. dont want to interfere with the gear

 

[Smont]

I'm just going to list all the things I don't like because that's the easiest way for me to do it, these are just opinions, and I'm kind of forming these opinions by putting myself in your shoes. Like if I was going to run this cycle myself.

I don't like the npp at the end of the cycle, it doesn't really make any sense to me at all because that Deca is already going to be in your system for like 4 months after you stop taking it, so even though you're psycho will be long over and you'll be back on trt, you're going to still have a bunch of deca floating around in your system the first couple of months and that's may dramatically change how you convert and manage estrogen when you're back on your 200 mg of test only. I also don't like the idea of combining the 19 nors like deca and NPP with another 19 like tren. For some people this isn't a big deal but for most people it tends to cause problems.
Tren and winstrol at 50 could pose some issues too.

We all know what tren does. But if we're going to take tren, then we want to look like we're taking tren, I mean that's the whole purpose in why we're taking it is for a certain look that it gives and it's ability to change the way that you look. But the conservative doses that we try to get away with do not provide that effect, I used to think hey we can use this stuff in safeer doses at like 75 to 150, maybe 200 mg a week, but it's a waste, because nobody who takes that low of a dose looks like they're on tren. And at that point why not just use something that's a safer compound that you can run the doses higher and get the desired effect.

I like winni, I'd save the 50mg a day for the last 4-5 weeks.

Take all of that with a grain of salt, I'm big on doing whatever the f*** you want to do. Don't let my opinions change your mind if you don't agree with them.

I'm currently on test, EQ and NPP myself. Working up to about 1100 total mg and then I'm also probably going to add winstrol at the end myself. I don't handle deca very well, NPP I didn't do the greatest with either, but what I got going on between the test and the EQ seems to be negating all the side effects for NPP this time around so I'm running with it.

 

[Smont]

Because you already know how you handle these and it seems like you do well with them, my main concerns would be that the NPP kind of seems redundant as those two 19 doors with the DECA and the tren will already be overlapping the whole time.

Being over 40, I think HGH would be significantly more beneficial then the tren and winny if you can make a little investment to run more then a replacement dose. 4-6 units a day or 10 EOD.

 

[Smont]

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You can plug all the information for your cycle in using this and it'll tell you when your hormones will clear out and your level should be back to baseline. Judging for my own personal experiences, after your last shot of testosterone it would probably take about 4 weeks of no testosterone shots before your levels will be back under a thousand.

My general rule of thumb is about a month for test e and c. If you were to stop your cycle and immediately continue to take your 200 mg per week, then it would take much longer than 4 weeks for those numbers to come back down

 

[jtbull]

Thanks guys

Just to calrify the reason with npp and deca i wont run together i was going to run nandralone for 15 weeks but say the last 4 run npp purpose is to make it not have as much an impact on my total t. That is all they worry about for those tests. estrogen ect they really dont worry about.

HGH how long min would i have to take it like if i can only afford to be on it for like 8 months woudl that be neough? i know i could do 4iu a day for 30 days and trying to make sure i can run it for a year.

I think i am going to save the tren for eq and test and i likely will only run it once likely up to 300mg a week but start wtih 150 to guage sides

Now "want to look like we are on tren" now how much tren do you think for that? i know thy lie but dorian yates said he never went abover 3 parabolans fo tren?

I decided i will run the test, nandralone and winny. might just run decca the whole 15 weeks.

 

[Chrs_1991]

I’ve ran tren at 150mg a week and it was more than enough. If you plan to run it, I would personally test the waters with a lower dose titrating it up depending on how you handle the sides. Also, having pram/caber on hand will help counter the sides.