Thoughts on strength+endurance run

[mikelly1107]

Hey so there's so much goin around rn with great sales so I thought I'd ask some opinions

My main goal is to not gain as much straight mass (tho I'm ok with that obviously) as some strength and endurance, as that's more toward what my goals are looking to be

Comin off an 8 week run of alphamax xt and primeval super laxo and feeling pretty good, but wondering what the next step is

Figure I could run a combo of natty supps (have run pretty much of them but I'd probably combine folli 2.0 with some Abe) or I was thinking about doing a oluk sup3r-1 run for ~6 weeks at 330 a day and wrap up with the blr pct (rebirth viron letrone). Have no access to pharma and don't really trust rc at all. Also considering adding cardarine from primeval (or if there's somewhere better to get it...?) into whatever I do

Regardless I'm going to run xtend perform as well since I had good results when I logged that

Any thoughts or opinions are welcome!

 

[TeamTGB]

Folli with ABE would be a nice run, that would give you some nice tissue accumulation. Folli and ABE compliment each other very well nice muscle volume and endurance i would give that a run then step into the sup3r-1 after that. I would ride the natural anabolics as long as you can then when you hit a wall introduce the hormonal agents.

 

[AntM1564]

Good call with Xtend Perform. I used a sample pre workout, in a fasted state, and I felt great throughout the entire session.

I would also add PowerMax XT. Betaine and COP will help increase endurance. The creatine, betaine and COP will also help increase strength. Although that is not your main goal, it is a beneficial effect. COP donates a phosphate group back to skeletal muscle during the ATP process. This further enhances the effects of creatine and betaine. Nutriverse has 20% off for Labor Day. PowerMax XT is a great ergogenic aid which will benefit your overall performance and recovery.

 

[jgntyce]

Olympus labs Endur3+ and evomuse cardiotryx come to come for endurance. Also helps with strength. SNS Creatinol o phosphate and betaine also work for your goals OP.

 

[Daycrawler]

SNS COP, ArA is a great ingredient. XGels. Betaine is also another great ingredient.

ArA + Reduce XT + PA would be awesome

 

[mikelly1107]

I definitely agree with what's been said so far but I honestly thought more people would be telling me to just pony up and do the andro run so that surprises me a bit but anyways
Has anyone got any word on cardarine? I've read as much as there is out there an it seems to be in line with my goals pretty well

 

[Daycrawler]

I definitely agree with what's been said so far but I honestly thought more people would be telling me to just pony up and do the andro run so that surprises me a bit but anyways
Has anyone got any word on cardarine? I've read as much as there is out there an it seems to be in line with my goals pretty well

Honestly the PHs available today aren't worth the money. Hi Tech has some interesting stuff, but overall it's just not worth it.

A few years ago, yeah it would make sense to make the investment in the PHs available then but now my personal opinion is that there isn't anything great out there worth the risk or money.

 

[alwaysfirst]

I got 0 from Folli, disappointed about that one after all the hype it got.

 

[lifted67]

Honestly the PHs available today aren't worth the money. Hi Tech has some interesting stuff, but overall it's just not worth it.

A few years ago, yeah it would make sense to make the investment in the PHs available then but now my personal opinion is that there isn't anything great out there worth the risk or money.

13 pounds LBM in 8 weeks on 1,4, and Epi felt legit to me.

 

[lifted67]

Hey so there's so much goin around rn with great sales so I thought I'd ask some opinions

My main goal is to not gain as much straight mass (tho I'm ok with that obviously) as some strength and endurance, as that's more toward what my goals are looking to be

Comin off an 8 week run of alphamax xt and primeval super laxo and feeling pretty good, but wondering what the next step is

Figure I could run a combo of natty supps (have run pretty much of them but I'd probably combine folli 2.0 with some Abe) or I was thinking about doing a oluk sup3r-1 run for ~6 weeks at 330 a day and wrap up with the blr pct (rebirth viron letrone). Have no access to pharma and don't really trust rc at all. Also considering adding cardarine from primeval (or if there's somewhere better to get it...?) into whatever I do

Regardless I'm going to run xtend perform as well since I had good results when I logged that

Any thoughts or opinions are welcome!

I felt pretty strong on PL's Super Rhanderol and you can't go wrong with Xtend Perform, definitely helps you stay in the game your whole workout.

Alternatively, do you have any reason not to try XGels + Tr1umph?

 

[cheftepesh1]

SNS COP, ArA is a great ingredient. XGels. Betaine is also another great ingredient.

ArA + Reduce XT + PA would be awesome

This plus maybe some ABE . Ara and Abe would be a great natty run.

 

[Daycrawler]

13 pounds LBM in 8 weeks on 1,4, and Epi felt legit to me.

That's interesting. Did you keep a log by chance?

Lol every time I see Epi it keeps throwing me off as my first thought is to the Epi PH instead of Epi(-)

 

[lifted67]

Yes, and I used bod pod testing to record my results

 

[cheftepesh1]

Yes, and I used bod pod testing to record my results

Need to find one of these in my area

 

[mikelly1107]

I felt pretty strong on PL's Super Rhanderol and you can't go wrong with Xtend Perform, definitely helps you stay in the game your whole workout.

Alternatively, do you have any reason not to try XGels + Tr1umph?

I've run xgels previously and felt good about them, but never yet with tr1umph. Your post about -1,-4, and epi is naturally alluring hahaha I'm still very much on the fence about whether to keep a natty run or go and try the andro route. Most replies here tho have been for natty supps so I'm kinda leaning that way

 

[alvin1]

13 pounds LBM in 8 weeks on 1,4, and Epi felt legit to me.

Epitestosterone and the 1,4 is the bold ione one? What was the brand you use?

 

[lifted67]

Epitestosterone and the 1,4 is the bold ione one? What was the brand you use?

Hard Rock, 2 bottles of 1&4, 1 bottle epi, the cycle cost a pretty penny.

 

[mikelly1107]

part bump part question...does anyone have any clue what happened to cardiotryx? i remember looking a few months ago and finding about as much of it as I can currently: none (in US at least)

 

[alwaysfirst]

part bump part question...does anyone have any clue what happened to cardiotryx? i remember looking a few months ago and finding about as much of it as I can currently: none (in US at least)

Very good question, I have been looking for that one as well, please let me know if you find!

 

[mikelly1107]

Just to update this thread I ended up going with powermax xt, folli 2.0, xtend perform (hopefully I can replicate my log success...check it out of you like), and some MST codyceps product. Excited to see where this takes me...I'm starting them all up together in about 2 weeks when I finish my laxo+alphamax xt stack. May throw abe in there too but ive got time to decide. Thanks for all the responses!

 

[AntM1564]

Just to update this thread I ended up going with powermax xt, folli 2.0, xtend perform (hopefully I can replicate my log success...check it out of you like), and some MST codyceps product. Excited to see where this takes me...I'm starting them all up together in about 2 weeks when I finish my laxo+alphamax xt stack. May through abe in there too but ive got time to decide. Thanks for all the responses!

Sounds like a good stack my friend!