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Those of you who have tried MAST need your input.

astronomical

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Thinking of maybe starting mast E in my TRT regimen of 125mg test e / week. I know it won’t be TRT anymore but I need your guys input if 100mg mast e a week on top would give me any bad cognitive effects? Starting school in two weeks and need my brain to be 100%.
Other things like prohormones orals and SARMS all Gave me bad brain fog and made me lazy which was bad for school so I was wondering if this will do the same? Also will my energy level be up? Tried epi andro (DHT) In the past and all it did was really make me a little more lean and give me a bit of aggressiveness in the gym.
 
Steeleydan said:
Interested in mast as well, both cycling and low dose with trt
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Mainly heard good things with TRT and low dose mast so I’m down to try it out. Main side effect being elevated blood pressure. Hoping it doesn’t crash my estro as I’m hyper sensitive to things like adex.
 
astronomical said:
Mainly heard good things with TRT and low dose mast so I’m down to try it out. Main side effect being elevated blood pressure. Hoping it doesn’t crash my estro as I’m hyper sensitive to things like adex.
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Yeah that would be one of my concerns as well as far as driving estro into the ground with test at trt doses. I never really get any sides even with estro 5< on labs so i probly wouldnt be able to tell without bloods
 
Steeleydan said:
Yeah that would be one of my concerns as well as far as driving estro into the ground with test at trt doses. I never really get any sides even with estro 5< on labs so i probly wouldnt be able to tell without bloods
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From what it seems most guys don’t have a problem with running 100mg test with 100mg mast. Think the estro crashes at higher doses say 100mg test 200mg mast. If that was the case 200mg test would be needed with 200mg mast. Weirdly I always prefer my estro to be a little on the higher side which is where I feel as good, as when it’s in the normal range Is the only time I get morning woods but I feel like ****e.
 
Not sure what effects you are going for but I think you would feel much better on 100mg of trest
 
Godstrength said:
Mast is a pretty good feel to it. At 200 (which is where I started) it increased energy and a tad bit more aggressive (honestly was more like assertive than aggression). Mentally it had me thinking clearly. I dont think mentally you would have anything to worry about unless you're super sensitive to dht. Personally 19nors mess with my head more than anything but they also impact the neurological system on a different level.

Bumped up to 400 after 2 weeks and stayed there and honestly the only sides I got were an increased in blood pressure and I started waking up at like 3-4 am. Ime once the system gets overloaded w a dht you can become "overly energetic" if that makes sense which could include irritability, aggressive behavior etc. However I stopped the mast due to bp and the headaches I was getting along w poorer sleep. Those were my only sides and theyre really minimal w mast compared to other aas. And testosterone for me works great. Even solo if I bump my dose up to 400 I see increased size, strength, libido and overall mood. I'm one of the lucky guys that test just works well for me and I feel great on moderate doses of it.

I think there's a lot of misinformation with masteron and how it actually works at controlling estrogen. It does work slightly but not enough to control estrogen at higher doses of test etc. It also (to my knowledge) isnt capable of crashing estrogen per say. It did help on 200 mg of test e but for me my diet really dictates estrogen problems more than anything. I take about 6mg of exemestane every 2-3 days or so which seems like a tiny dose but its all I need. I think initially the mast helped but after a couple weeks everything leveled out and I added the ai back in the mix w no problems.

I think if you're going to add anything to trt to make it better masteron is the best option next to low dose primo. Mast is a dht so as little as 200/week you'll see some drying, hardening, increased libido, energy and lowered Shbg which will provide more free testosterone. At a low dose the sides are pretty much non existent.
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Really appreciate your response brother! That’s exactly what I wanted to hear and what I expected and hoped for for the most part. My only worry is when I took 50mg proviron along with my 650mg test and anavar the prov crashed my estro slowly which is why I’m worried with the mast even without an AI. But i feel like I should be okay if I raise my dose to 150mg test e with 200mg mast it should be good hopefully. Did you get any acne from the mast as well? It’s my only last worry as that last cycle with prov mast test gave me terrible acne on my chest and back mainly, mostly gonna blame the proviron for it.
 
astronomical said:
Just increased energy, dryness and vascularity without brain fog which is why I ended up choosing mast. Don’t wanna add anything too hardcore ya know?
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I think for energy and well being trest would blow mast away mg for mg. Dryness not so much.

But trest is much more expensive so..
 
RickyBlobby said:
I think for energy and well being trest would blow mast away mg for mg. Dryness not so much.

But trest is much more expensive so..
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Interesting, I’ve gotta do a lot more research on it but I’ll def keep it in mind as a stack for my next cycle! From my little research I’ve done on it it seems there are some gnarly sides from it though?
 
astronomical said:
Interesting, I’ve gotta do a lot more research on it but I’ll def keep it in mind as a stack for my next cycle! From my little research I’ve done on it it seems there are some gnarly sides from it though?
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Not if you keep doses reasonable. Trest ACE 30- 50mg transdermal or 10-15mg IM seem like great doses. Most people with the gnarly sides run 25-50mg IM.
 
How about Mast "P" with test/cyp?? I'm on 150 test/week (pinned 3x a week) and looking for the libido properties.
I take around 75mg of provi a day, 5 days a week. Would like to change things up and cycle off more of the provi.

Any issues with either mast "e" or "p" with test/cyp??

Grondi
 
astronomical said:
Thinking of maybe starting mast E in my TRT regimen of 125mg test e / week. I know it won’t be TRT anymore but I need your guys input if 100mg mast e a week on top would give me any bad cognitive effects? Starting school in two weeks and need my brain to be 100%.
Other things like prohormones orals and SARMS all Gave me bad brain fog and made me lazy which was bad for school so I was wondering if this will do the same? Also will my energy level be up? Tried epi andro (DHT) In the past and all it did was really make me a little more lean and give me a bit of aggressiveness in the gym.
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Mast is really good for pre contest...are you competing? If not, might want to consider another compound
 
I've been using 250mg of mast e a week with 125mg a week of test and 300EQ. Trying to see how well mast takes care of estrogen sides.
So far it works well. But test dose is very low.
In about 5 weeks ill bump to 500mast and 250 test and cut the EQ. Just as an experiment
 
Cgkone said:
I've been using 250mg of mast e a week with 125mg a week of test and 300EQ. Trying to see how well mast takes care of estrogen sides.
So far it works well. But test dose is very low.
In about 5 weeks ill bump to 500mast and 250 test and cut the EQ. Just as an experiment
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Ive heard mast is great for that, i was going to try the same thing
 
grondi said:
How about Mast "P" with test/cyp?? I'm on 150 test/week (pinned 3x a week) and looking for the libido properties.
I take around 75mg of provi a day, 5 days a week. Would like to change things up and cycle off more of the provi.

Any issues with either mast "e" or "p" with test/cyp??

Grondi
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Try it. Mast is mild and for bigger guys like me it really only helps with keeping estrogen in check and maybe some libido help.
It will shred you up if your already cut.
Its definitely safe.
 
swimfan65 said:
Ive heard mast is great for that, i was going to try the same thing
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Well I heard that's what everybody did back in the day. I get a little tired of A Is. And when just cruising the last thing I want to do is take any AI.
Its working good on the dosages im on.
 
I love Masteron personally, I always cruise with Mast and test or proviron and test. It wont effective you mentally in any negative way. Mast alone shouldn't bottom out your estro, honestly though proviron shouldn't either.... not sure why you experienced that. But give it a shot brother, I bet you'll find what you're hoping for.
 
swimfan65 said:
Just stay on..i cruise on at least 400...lol. But i dont blast over a gram...just add orals..
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So I guess that's what I'm basically doing
125test 250mast 150 EQ
I want to drop the EQ and add NPP and tbol for 6 weeks. More and more people I talk to are saying switch up every 6 weeks and keep dosage to a minimal .
 
I might get some hate her but I think masteron sucks for the price and what you get. It doesn't add any size, gives 0 muscles and its really only good at low bodyfat. I like it to harden up and it can be nice stacking it with something like winstrol but the pimples.. It's good because its fairly safe but if I go by results winstrol trumps it. Now winstrol is a methylated compound and its more of a high risk. If you're going on stage I could agree it's worth adding with winstrol, tren etc but you're not gonna keep the look so for an average guy I'd say do anavar or primobolan.
 
Chados said:
I might get some hate her but I think masteron sucks for the price and what you get. It doesn't add any size, gives 0 muscles and its really only good at low bodyfat. I like it to harden up and it can be nice stacking it with something like winstrol but the pimples.. It's good because its fairly safe but if I go by results winstrol trumps it. Now winstrol is a methylated compound and its more of a high risk. If you're going on stage I could agree it's worth adding with winstrol, tren etc but you're not gonna keep the look so for an average guy I'd say do anavar or primobolan.
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I've heard masterone and primo are the same basically
 
Cgkone said:
I've heard masterone and primo are the same basically
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Well you heard wrong sir! Haha jokes aside.. In a way mast primo tren winstrol even eq are sort of the same but very different too you know?

Mast is no muscle, primo very little muscle, winstrol more muscle and tren even more.

While none really adds water winstrol shreds it. Mast is like winstrol without the added muscle while primo is like winstrol without the loss of water.

Granted none of these are close to winstrol mg/mg but primo is a far more potent musclebuilder.

Also wanna add that primo is a fantastic cutting agent primarily, it's more like a mild tren.
 
Chados said:
Well you heard wrong sir! Haha jokes aside.. In a way mast primo tren winstrol even eq are sort of the same but very different too you know?

Mast is no muscle, primo very little muscle, winstrol more muscle and tren even more.

While none really adds water winstrol shreds it. Mast is like winstrol without the added muscle while primo is like winstrol without the loss of water.

Granted none of these are close to winstrol mg/mg but primo is a far more potent musclebuilder.

Also wanna add that primo is a fantastic cutting agent primarily, it's more like a mild tren.
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I don't know enough about chemicals to know if it's basically the same compound or not. The person that told me that used to be a super active member that everybody regarded as pretty much God.
 
Cgkone said:
I don't know enough about chemicals to know if it's basically the same compound or not. The person that told me that used to be a super active member that everybody regarded as pretty much God.
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I don't really disagree with him and you don't have to trust my word but you should (according to me) haha. Its somewhat close to masteron but primo builds muscle mast doesn't. It's literally only a contest prep if you're in good shape and it's not even that good, you won't see any ibff pro running mast solo without winstrol for contest and very often halotestin, anavar also do exist but the one mandatory here is winstrol.

If your goal is longevity, meaning adding more muscle and lean out go primo.
 
Agree. Mast is just DHT basically and DHT does not buil muscle DIRECTLY. I does however give you more endurance and specifically some strenght. Both of which are quite welcomed in a cut!

Hardening makes no sense if you are not a pro looking to do either a contest or a photoshoot.

It makes sense adding mast for shbg inhibition, for help with preventing gyno (spurfy wrote about this not long ago in his thread about 19nor's) and to add some more nervous system stimulation (strenght, endurance). Now all of this will help out somewhat on a bulk, but if you are running stronger compounds in the same stack the help from it should be negligible. But for a cut with only test, adding mast will make a difference imo.

I have no idea if mast helps with nutrient partitioning. I've read somewhere that the opposite migh actually be true. Idk...

Primo is however as Chados said, a great nutrient partitioner. And doesn't actually cost much more then mast. 10 to 20 bucks more I'd say...
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
How does Mast make you feel when running it w test?
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I don't know what this feeling people talking about is, I get energized with test but that's about it, masteron seems to be quite well tolerated for most people but to be honest I don't feel it does anything really except for hardening at low bodyfat and I don't see any other reason to use it. Primo is a much better compound overall and just as safe if not safer to run.

You're gonna have people disagreeing but then I disagree back lol
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
How does Mast make you feel when running it w test?
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200mg mast for me means hyper. Trouble sleeping. Lots of energy. Can do and must do really high volume workouts in order to not be totally hyper in the evening. Also more aggressive. I don't like it personaly.
 
Jinsun said:
200mg mast for me means hyper. Trouble sleeping. Lots of energy. Can do and must do really high volume workouts in order to not be totally hyper in the evening. Also more aggressive. I don't like it personaly.
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Best unsponsored ad for Masteron I’ve ever read.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
whats the best low dose add-on for TRT in your experience? I have been looking into mast .. and that lead me to investigate Prov .. and that lead to Danazol ... there seems to be a lot that you could add that would do more or less the same thing
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Yes many many many dht steroids have the same basic effects and so then it comes down to which one agrees with you the most or is cheapest hahaha.
 
Old Witch said:
Best unsponsored ad for Masteron I’ve ever read.
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Haha lmao

But seriously, at that point just add low dose primo instead of mast. Less mental sides and more gains. Primo is pricier though.

Or low dose dhb... either way, mast makes the least sense imo.
 
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