Thinned hair from PP, help?

beefjerky

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I'm pretty sure my cycle of PP has thinned my hair. Is there anything I can take temporarily to permanently cure this?
 
Thinning hair is part of the PH game. You played the game and thats what got dealt to you. What you have to think now, is was the muscle gain worth the thinning hair?
 
I don't want to blow my hair out of proportion, its still plenty thick and I'm sure it would be the envy of a couple people on this board, but I notice a difference, although I doubt anyone else does.
As for shaving my head, haha, I definitely don't have the shape for that.
 
beefjerky said:
I'm pretty sure my cycle of PP has thinned my hair. Is there anything I can take temporarily to permanently cure this?
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the answer is a resounding "no"...some reversal is possible (though not common), but it generally requires a multifaceted approach executed over several months or years.

more than likely, it will continue to thin. if you have the gene and you dont take relatively drastic measures to treat it, you will keep losing.
 
same_old said:
the answer is a resounding "no"...some reversal is possible (though not common), but it generally requires a multifaceted approach executed over several months or years.

more than likely, it will continue to thin. if you have the gene and you dont take relatively drastic measures to treat it, you will keep losing.
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When I say thinning, I mean the diameter of the hair is shrinking, do you mean the same, or amt of hair on my head?
If I started losing hair, I'd hit the propecia.
 
beefjerky said:
When I say thinning, I mean the diameter of the hair is shrinking, do you mean the same, or amt of hair on my head?
If I started losing hair, I'd hit the propecia.
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it's the same thing. androgenic hair LOSS happens as a result of the hair follicle being damaged by an androgen...the first symptom is a reduction in shaft diameter. later, the hairs get baby-fine and fall out.

hard to diagnose if you're prone...i cant know what your situation is without seeing before and afters photos (several years ago and current is best)
 
I don't really have any good before after shots for that
When you say later? How much usually? As in, is it a slippery slope from here on out.
 
If you noticed thinning or shedding, the question you need to ask yourself is "WILL I LOOK SEXY BALD?" Thats answers your question. In hindsight, I wished I hasnt used all the androgenic ****oke I had because a shaved head is my only real option 10 plus cycles later.
 
I won't be doing anymore cycles so thats over with. I don't notice any shedding, I don't notice my hairline going up, and maybe this thinning thing is all in my head?
I have hope for medical procedures in the future though.
And I would look horrible bald.
 
I got thinned hair from pp too. Mine got a little thinner...especially around the beginning of my hairline. A couple months after pct it was thickening back up. I've heard that if you have the gene then it will just have started thinning much earler. If not though, it was just thin because you have all that excess test. As you probably know, the testosterone that attacks your hair follicles is called DHT. If you're not prone to it, then once you get off cycle then the DHT will stop attacking your hairline and it will come back. I think this is mostly a theory and not actually PROVEN, but it seems to have worked that way for me. So give it a couple months and see what happens. I wouldn't start worrying until then.
 
calidood said:
I got thinned hair from pp too. Mine got a little thinner...especially around the beginning of my hairline. A couple months after post cycle therapy it was thickening back up. I've heard that if you have the gene then it will just have started thinning much earler. If not though, it was just thin because you have all that excess test. As you probably know, the testosterone that attacks your hair follicles is called DHT. If you're not prone to it, then once you get off cycle then the DHT will stop attacking your hairline and it will come back. I think this is mostly a theory and not actually PROVEN, but it seems to have worked that way for me. So give it a couple months and see what happens. I wouldn't start worrying until then.
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LOL...yikes that is a piss-poor explanation.

if all a person's hair did was THIN (and not shed or recede) during a cycle, and the cycle is short, then it is possible that those hairs didnt die and will thicken back up once the person is back in their nominal, lower-androgen state.

wow, just occurred to me that this is an area where short cycles can shine...hair follicle degradation generally takes a little while to happen.
 
same_old said:
LOL...yikes that is a piss-poor explanation.

if all a person's hair did was THIN (and not shed or recede) during a cycle, and the cycle is short, then it is possible that those hairs didnt die and will thicken back up once the person is back in their nominal, lower-androgen state.

wow, just occurred to me that this is an area where short cycles can shine...hair follicle degradation generally takes a little while to happen.
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Yeah yours was awesome. If it was a short cycle it might grow back. The end. Haha. j/k :toofunny:
 
calidood said:
Yeah yours was awesome. If it was a short cycle it might grow back. The end. Haha. j/k :toofunny:
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*sigh* if you review my previous posts on the topic, you'll see that i have a very solid grasp on MPB causation and treatment...

"If not though, it was just thin because you have all that excess test. As you probably know, the testosterone that attacks your hair follicles is called DHT. If you're not prone to it, then once you get off cycle then the DHT will stop attacking your hairline and it will come back"

it was a PP cycle for chrissakes. he barely had any circulating testosterone at all. you couldnt have been more incorrect, irrelevant or misinformed. please just let the adults talk.
 
All you need to do is add finasteride while on cycle. You can take up to 5mg/day without a problem. 5mg/day inhibits ~70% of serum DHT and 38% of scalp DHT.

If that doesn't work, then you can try 0.50mg/day of dutasteride. 0.50mg/day dutasteride inhibits 90% of serum DHT and 54% of scalp DHT.
 
I believe finasteride only works by inhibiting the reductase enzyme. So, if it is all ready reduced, finasteride wont help at all.
 
same_old said:
*sigh* if you review my previous posts on the topic, you'll see that i have a very solid grasp on MPB causation and treatment...

"If not though, it was just thin because you have all that excess test. As you probably know, the testosterone that attacks your hair follicles is called DHT. If you're not prone to it, then once you get off cycle then the DHT will stop attacking your hairline and it will come back"

it was a PP cycle for chrissakes. he barely had any circulating testosterone at all. you couldnt have been more incorrect, irrelevant or misinformed. please just let the adults talk.
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Well I was telling from experience. I realize that I am 22. But I feel that an experienced person is more likely to be able to answer his question then someone who is older than I am. Believe me, I'm not hating on your old and wise WHOPPING 27 years man. I'm not. If age was a factor you would have tried to correct me in a cooler way though. But maybe you should let those who are experienced do the talking. And take your books on MPB back to the bathroom. I don't want to be the "causation" of any problems man. But if you haven't gone through it, don't act like your some kind of savior. I'd rather just squash this. I'm just trying to help the guy out. Just calm down, correct me if you must (which by the way you never did), and then kick back and feel good about yourself. And I'll say you put me in my place. But just saying "no you're dumb!" is lame. And if it wasn't increased test from the PP then what do you think it was? The liver support?
 
i can only speak from experience, and offer a piece of advice forwarded from our male anti againg medicine forum doctor.

my hair thinned significantly on my second 2nd of m1t. adding nizoral shampoo not only stopped the thinning, but allowed the hair to regrow very quickly. if i were you it would be the first thing id try.

2nd....finastride is just bad news. it is the position of dr john (and after reading some material, mine as well) that finastride is more or less poison. DHT is not only the primary male androgenic sex hormone, is the primary anti estrogenic hormone. you are looking at gyno, moodswings, bloating, erectile difficulty, etc. stay away.

block the DHT from the target tissue (scalp, prostate) and let it have its way with everything else.
 
calidood said:
Well I was telling from experience. I realize that I am 22. But I feel that an experienced person is more likely to be able to answer his question then someone who is older than I am....

...And if it wasn't increased test from the PP then what do you think it was? The liver support?
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sweet jesus.

WHEN YOU TAKE (STRONG) STEROIDS YOUR BODY ALMOST ENTIRELY STOPS PRODUCING ITS OWN TESTOSTERONE. DHT IS NOT THE REASON YOU GET HAIRLOSS FROM PHERA-PLEX. PHERA-PLEX OR ANY OTHER 5A-REDUCED ANDROGEN (ANADROL, MASTERON, WINNY, 1-TEST, M1T, ETC ETC) HAS POTENTIAL TO BIND TO THE ANDROGEN RECEPTORS IN THE SCALP AND DEGRADE THE FOLLICLE.
 
same_old said:
sweet jesus.

WHEN YOU TAKE (STRONG) STEROIDS YOUR BODY ALMOST ENTIRELY STOPS PRODUCING ITS OWN TESTOSTERONE. DHT IS NOT THE REASON YOU GET HAIRLOSS FROM PHERA-PLEX. PHERA-PLEX OR ANY OTHER 5A-REDUCED ANDROGEN (ANADROL, MASTERON, WINNY, 1-TEST, M1T, ETC ETC) HAS POTENTIAL TO BIND TO THE ANDROGEN RECEPTORS IN THE SCALP AND DEGRADE THE FOLLICLE.
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See there ya go man. You're right. I totally worded that wrong. I meant to work that as fake test. Obviously it's not real test. So that's my bad. Thanks.
 
same_old said:
sweet jesus.

WHEN YOU TAKE (STRONG) STEROIDS YOUR BODY ALMOST ENTIRELY STOPS PRODUCING ITS OWN TESTOSTERONE. DHT IS NOT THE REASON YOU GET HAIRLOSS FROM PHERA-PLEX. PHERA-PLEX OR ANY OTHER 5A-REDUCED ANDROGEN (ANADROL, MASTERON, WINNY, 1-TEST, M1T, ETC ETC) HAS POTENTIAL TO BIND TO THE ANDROGEN RECEPTORS IN THE SCALP AND DEGRADE THE FOLLICLE.
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Dude, M1T is a steriod??

Pffftttt, whatever. Maybe thats why I am bald. I should stop kicking my Moms father now. Sorry gramps!!


LOL
 
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