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Thanks again everyone !
Im going to go though this thread again tonight.
What iv got atm;

(Thier was a sail on so i may have brought stuff I'd not use this time around)

Test E X2 / 250mg 1ml (10ml)
Deca X2 / 200mg 1ml (10ml)
Dbol / 20mg X50
anavar 10mg X60

And some nova and clomid too
 

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Thanks. HOLY SH*T those are even higher than what is is pianas 5% as I thought of an all in one as well but he does not have tudca in his
 

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Thanks. HOLY SH*T those are even higher than what is is pianas 5% as I thought of an all in one as well but he does not have tudca in his
 
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Thanks. HOLY SH*T those are even higher than what is is pianas 5% as I thought of an all in one as well but he does not have tudca in his
IMO the best plan is to run an "All in one" cycle assist, like (original) CEL or another... And add what you need to it.
 

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Thanks. HOLY SH*T those are even higher than what is is pianas 5% as I thought of an all in one as well but he does not have tudca in his
 
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Ar1mecare pro covers a lot of bases. 8 pill serving size plus includes tudca which is rare for a lot of all in one's.
Yeah, my two favorites are Arimicare Pro, and CEL Cycle Assist (original formula), + extra TUDCA, etc.
 
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I don't trust anything from that company. Why do you think OL UK would dose cycle assist supps properly? It matters even less to them how they dose this supps, as nobody will notice one way or the other.

Justbuy some NAC from a reputable vendor (bulkpowders . co . uk maybe) and get some quality tudca. All you really need for your liver are these two. Or even just one or the other. In reality you don't need anything he-he. Liver will be just fine one way or the other. Unless you are pushing large amounts of orals or are extremely sensitive to them.
 
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I don't trust anything from that company. Why do you think OL UK would dose cycle assist supps properly? It matters even less to them how they dose this supps, as nobody will notice one way or the other.

Justbuy some NAC from a reputable vendor (bulkpowders . co . uk maybe) and get some quality tudca. All you really need for your liver are these two. Or even just one or the other. In reality you don't need anything he-he. Liver will be just fine one way or the other. Unless you are pushing large amounts of orals or are extremely sensitive to them.
I agree with this sentiment. TUDCA is primarily to help my fatigue and appetite on orals. It does a lot of healthy things for the body, as does NAC.

If someone were on a serious budget and I had to recommend two supps for health support on cycle, it would be 1g+ NAC and 600-1,200mg ALA. ALA is a potent cheap antioxidant and I’m not sure why nobody mentions it on here, but you can buy it at Walmart or Amazon cheap and it definitely cleans things up. Tiny Tony taught me that years ago on this board and John Meadows still talks about it as one of his few supplement staples.
 

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I don't trust anything from that company. Why do you think OL UK would dose cycle assist supps properly? It matters even less to them how they dose this supps, as nobody will notice one way or the other.

Justbuy some NAC from a reputable vendor (bulkpowders . co . uk maybe) and get some quality tudca. All you really need for your liver are these two. Or even just one or the other. In reality you don't need anything he-he. Liver will be just fine one way or the other. Unless you are pushing large amounts of orals or are extremely sensitive to them.
what about the hawthone berry for blood pressure
 
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Well I think nac is seriously underrated and dmz will throw on mass and glycogen retention I just see dbol as a moderate oral with good euphoria energy and pumps
There's a reason dbol has been the most popular steroid for over 50 years. It's great stuff. It will put on way more size and strength then dmz. If it don't then it's fake.

And nac is super underrated. Amazing overall health product
 

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There's a reason dbol has been the most popular steroid for over 50 years. It's great stuff. It will put on way more size and strength then dmz. If it don't then it's fake.

And nac is super underrated. Amazing overall health product
Your statement about dbol I disagree how people respond is user dependent. You have seen the myotrophic rating between dmz and M1a and msten against ANADROL? All of them outperform anadrol the study was conductive my SEARLE LABORATORES. The anabolic ratios were measured by two different companies and searle is the one that had more accurate ratings.

don’t believe somethings better just because it’s used more often I’ve spoke to many who have used dbol and I have myself it’s garbage compared to a DI METHYL which is DOUBLE METHYLATED TO SURVIVE the liver even better than **** dbol with a low anabolic eating and a two hour half life.

way more size than dbol.. pff... dmz is known as RALOXIN or meMEBOLAZINE that’s it’s clinical name. It’s an ACTIVE STEROID If you think dbol is stronger than dmz you either one don’t eat enough or two are being confused about dry versus wet weight

Go look at my post I’ve tried all the big hitting steroids. Dianabol is dog ****
it’s a fuckin meme just like tren because everyone knows what it is generally if they go to the gym but don’t take steroids. But you mention something like masteron and they say wtf is that. Dbol is GARABGE
 

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Why is dbol popular because generally you don’t feel like dog **** and can run it longer and everyone knows what it is why isn’t dmz ahead of it because it’s unique it’s a dimethyl and 80 percent of people still think prohormones aren’t active steroids than never passed fda testing that. Is. It.
 

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It drives me up the wall that people think this stuff when the medical literature is right there. On top of that it’s all because dmz was OTC that’s IT. Dbol is a perfect example too because they’re ran at the same dose 45/50 mg per mg dmz is way stronger. I’ve ran dbol at 100 as well.
 
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what about the hawthone berry for blood pressure
Cialis as was mentiones. Or even better, get a beta blocker.

I also don't agree about dbol. Dbol is nice for strength and energy but not for gains. At least not compared to other anabolics, no way.
 
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It drives me up the wall that people think this stuff when the medical literature is right there. On top of that it’s all because dmz was OTC that’s IT
Dbol sucks, we all know it. It's great for energy, mood, gym endurance, etc. but actuall lean tissue accrual kinda sucks.
 

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Yeah trust me if dbol was better I would stocked up on a ton of raws, dbol is very discernible by its bitter taste

shits two bucks a gram
 
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Why is dbol popular because generally you don’t feel like dog **** and can run it longer and everyone knows what it is why isn’t dmz ahead of it because it’s unique it’s a dimethyl and 80 percent of people still think prohormones aren’t active steroids than never passed fda testing that. Is. It.
Dmz was ok, msten at 40mg I would say is just as strong as 50mg anadrol but once you get to 75mg or 100 on anadrol I don't think msten is not going to keep up and I've never seen anyone go over 50 on msten. M1a is all strength for me, not much for size. Of course everything is going to be person dependent. Sdrol blows all of them away. Dbol I get bigger and stronger with no bloating if carbs are not too high and I feel great, far better gains then msten, dmz and m1a. I'd probably rate dmz the lowest because it just gives me that cosmetic look that dissapear as soon as I stop using it.

As far as the medical literature goes, it rarely proves itself outside of paper when it comes to steroids and the anabolic/androgenic ratios don't mean much either. Which makes sense because those ratings have nothing to do with humans, there all animal studies. Out of that group of things listed I personally prefer in order, sdrol, dbol, anadrol/msten, and dmz and m1a are me least favorite. M1a as of recently I used twice and it just wasn't great for me. I used a toxic combo called silverback by medfit last summer that was ok but not what you would expect for what's in it. Superdrol, dbol and anadrol I have not used in at least 5 to 6 years but any of those 3 I prefer over the designers. Not because I have a problem with designers, but because those 3 work best for me and the large majority of people I know
 

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Dmz was ok, msten at 40mg I would say is just as strong as 50mg anadrol but once you get to 75mg or 100 on anadrol I don't think msten is not going to keep up and I've never seen anyone go over 50 on msten. M1a is all strength for me, not much for size. Of course everything is going to be person dependent. Sdrol blows all of them away. Dbol I get bigger and stronger with no bloating if carbs are not too high and I feel great, far better gains then msten, dmz and m1a. I'd probably rate dmz the lowest because it just gives me that cosmetic look that dissapear as soon as I stop using it.

As far as the medical literature goes, it rarely proves itself outside of paper when it comes to steroids and the anabolic/androgenic ratios don't mean much either. Which makes sense because those ratings have nothing to do with humans, there all animal studies. Out of that group of things listed I personally prefer in order, sdrol, dbol, anadrol/msten, and dmz and m1a are me least favorite. M1a as of recently I used twice and it just wasn't great for me. I used a toxic combo called silverback by medfit last summer that was ok but not what you would expect for what's in it. Superdrol, dbol and anadrol I have not used in at least 5 to 6 years but any of those 3 I prefer over the designers. Not because I have a problem with designers, but because those 3 work best for me and the large majority of people I know
Well I guess once again user dependent wins. I get very little out of dbol but I get a lot out of anadrol dmz m1a and it seems msten as well
 

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Low dose daily Cialis. Keep your blood pressure in check, better pumps in the gym and the bedroom
serious question. There are hot girls in the gym. I can get it up when needed, but will it cause boners to pop all the time like viagra? Also what would we call low dose cialis?

So DMZ, DBOl, M1t, sdrol, maybe anadrol are all ones to experiment with as kickstarters to see what works best? I have heard winstrol orals are a finisher and I have heard Epi is both. The funny thing is i hear epi and sdrol have been more kind with hair. What about yk11 or s-23? Just go with stuff already mentioned or anything special about those and would they both be finishers or starters?
 
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serious question. There are hot girls in the gym. I can get it up when needed, but will it cause boners to pop all the time like viagra? Also what would we call low dose cialis?

So DMZ, DBOl, M1t, sdrol, maybe anadrol are all ones to experiment with as kickstarters to see what works best? I have heard winstrol orals are a finisher and I have heard Epi is both. The funny thing is i hear epi and sdrol have been more kind with hair. What about yk11 or s-23? Just go with stuff already mentioned or anything special about those and would they both be finishers or starters?
No, Viagra and Cialis don't cause you to get a boner when you normally would not. It just makes it easier for most ppl to get one when they want it. Honestly I don't really get much extra out it in the bedroom but I don't have issues there. I pretty much just use it to keep blood pressure in check and get better pumps. When I run out I don't notice much if anything changes. The first week it's gone I get a little worried knowing I'm not on it and then I forget about it and nothing changes other then my pumps not as good.

Now if your staring at some hot chick thinking about banging her at the gym you might start to pop a boner but that just means your being a creep lol keep your focus on lifting weights.
 
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serious question. There are hot girls in the gym. I can get it up when needed, but will it cause boners to pop all the time like viagra? Also what would we call low dose cialis?

So DMZ, DBOl, M1t, sdrol, maybe anadrol are all ones to experiment with as kickstarters to see what works best? I have heard winstrol orals are a finisher and I have heard Epi is both. The funny thing is i hear epi and sdrol have been more kind with hair. What about yk11 or s-23? Just go with stuff already mentioned or anything special about those and would they both be finishers or starters?
to be real they all work. Most things work less at the end of a cycle for me and I think it's because I'm past the point of making more gains. Dryer compounds make the most sense at the end tho. You can use anything to kick start or finish a cycle
 
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Two weeks in n the misses found my stuff, i would of told her eventually. Its made me feel really shitty, not sure its worth it if this will be my scenario . She's made my feel like a fuckin heroin addict
 
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Two weeks in n the misses found my stuff, i would of told her eventually. Its made me feel really shitty, not sure its worth it if this will be my scenario . She's made my feel like a fuckin heroin addict
You should think about what is really important to you (whatever that is). Protect the important thing(s).
 

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You should think about what is really important to you (whatever that is). Protect the important thing(s).
yeah this brother....

do not ruin your family life in the pursuit of gains without a proper serious thought. I’d also not recommend making that decision when on gear. That feeling of being on can distort things.

gear will always be around, your missus might not
 
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Two weeks in n the misses found my stuff, i would of told her eventually. Its made me feel really shitty, not sure its worth it if this will be my scenario . She's made my feel like a fuckin heroin addict
Should have told her before you started. I made it very clear at some point I would start doing steroids, for years I talked about it so when I started it wasn't a shock. She wasn't happy at first but I never lied. Now she don't care at all. She likes how I have more energy, motivation and am just a happier person on cycle.
 
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You could stop cold no pct, wait a month and go get blood work done, your test will probably be really low and you might get put on trt, then she has no choice to accept it lol. Just a thought
 
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Hi guys, hope your all well.
Im just over 4 weeks in now test e at 375mg week.
I did end up trying dbol, n iv got my last 30mg to get through. Approx 40 to 60mg day . Anyway, as i said im at the end of the pack now, n iv only just got slightly different nipples , like alittle puffy, just today. I did have a itch a week ago n took an ai, didnt come back. Just took another ai since i noticed puffyness.

Should i have been taking an ai from day one?
Because i thought only take them if you need them.
 
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Aslo thats 1mg Anastrozole i took today.
And only did 1 mg before.
I do aslo have 20mg nolva tabs and some clomid
 

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