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Thinking about taking Test-E

lucifer92

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I turned 21 a couple days back, i started weightlifting at 14 for a year, then i boxed for 2 years and now i go to the gym for 3,5 years on and off -mostly on, but i had some really heavy personal stuff to deal with-.
I know my hpta probably isn't done developing yet. I did bloodwork a month back, but still no results. Maybe the mailman messed up -it won't be his first time-. The thing is i don't feel like a man, for the lack of better word. For example there was this really beautiful girl with yoga pants right next to me doing glute work and even through i really wanted to do bad things with her, i just wasn't feeling it. This happens all the time, i would see some girl and i would want to sex her but i am not really feeling it. No, i am not into guys, i want to want to have sex with girls i like, but somethings feels off inside me.
This isn't a done deal, i am going to ask them for my bloodwork again and i will see how it goes and what will be the results, i just wanted someone to share my thoughts.
 
lucifer92 said:
I turned 21 a couple days back, i started weightlifting at 14 for a year, then i boxed for 2 years and now i go to the gym for 3,5 years on and off -mostly on, but i had some really heavy personal stuff to deal with-.
I know my hpta probably isn't done developing yet. I did bloodwork a month back, but still no results. Maybe the mailman messed up -it won't be his first time-. The thing is i don't feel like a man, for the lack of better word. For example there was this really beautiful girl with yoga pants right next to me doing glute work and even through i really wanted to do bad things with her, i just wasn't feeling it. This happens all the time, i would see some girl and i would want to sex her but i am not really feeling it. No, i am not into guys, i want to want to have sex with girls i like, but somethings feels off inside me.
This isn't a done deal, i am going to ask them for my bloodwork again and i will see how it goes and what will be the results, i just wanted someone to share my thoughts.
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Self-administering Test-E at 21 years of age, in an effort to mask a symptom of a problem you do not know the root cause of, is a recipe for disaster. Resist the urge for a short-term fix.

You're on the right path with bloodwork. Get that settled first, and then, if need be, you can address other issues like anxiety and depression, if applicable. Also, don't discount the damage that stress (from dealing with "heavy personal issues"), as well as sleep issues, can have on your overall health and sense of well-being.

Your best bet, for long-term health and success, is to involve trained professionals such as your family doctor.
 
Toren said:
Self-administering Test-E at 21 years of age, in an effort to mask a symptom of a problem you do not know the root cause of, is a recipe for disaster. Resist the urge for a short-term fix.

You're on the right path with bloodwork. Get that settled first, and then, if need be, you can address other issues like anxiety and depression, if applicable. Also, don't discount the damage that stress (from dealing with "heavy personal issues"), as well as sleep issues, can have on your overall health and sense of well-being.

Your best bet, for long-term health and success, is to involve trained professionals such as your family doctor.
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I don't have a family doctor.
I won't rush into things, just wanted some opinions.
Also, does stress cause that much trouble?
 
Lack of libido can come from many things not just left. My libido is low right now and my test is in the 2000 range
 
mixedup said:
Lack of libido can come from many things not just left. My libido is low right now and my test is in the 2000 range
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I think I’m in the same boat as you.. a lot has to do with neurotransmitters etc.. my endontests all that too and it makes sense if dopamine and stuff is really low and you have supraphysiological test levels you can get hard one but not care about sex lol
 
I'd recommend proviron way before test. It's probably something mental though. Like maybe feeling inadequate or something like that.
 
BloodManor said:
Think you just need to come to the realization that you are gay
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Haha, brutal.

OP - the guys above have you covered bro, jumping on test (or any aas/ph/sarms) isn’t the answer. Sooo many things that could be affecting your libido (eg stress is a cause if loads of negative mental and physical conditions)......

Get your bloods, speak to professionals. Keep hitting the gym and trying to progress your training and nutrition.

Hope you get it sorted bro - let us know how you get on
 
RickyBlobby said:
I'd recommend proviron way before test. It's probably something mental though. Like maybe feeling inadequate or something like that.
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Proviron didn't cross my mind to be honest. I hear everyone say that your first cycle should be just Test and that's why i picked that.
 
Whisky said:
Haha, brutal.

OP - the guys above have you covered bro, jumping on test (or any aas/ph/sarms) isn’t the answer. Sooo many things that could be affecting your libido (eg stress is a cause if loads of negative mental and physical conditions)......

Get your bloods, speak to professionals. Keep hitting the gym and trying to progress your training and nutrition.

Hope you get it sorted bro - let us know how you get on
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I'm probably gonna get my tests the coming week, i'll let you guys know. Thanks for the info everyone
 
lucifer92 said:
Proviron didn't cross my mind to be honest. I hear everyone say that your first cycle should be just Test and that's why i picked that.
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Proviron isn't a cycle, its more of an enhancer. Its not methylated so you can take it long term.

lucifer92 said:
I got my test back, my testosterone is at 383
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Yep, that there could be your problem. I'd recommend torem to boost your T levels and proviron to enhance libido. Get bloods a couple months into it, I bet your testerone goes up a lot and you will feel a lot better sexually.

If not, THEN maybe consider TRT. TRT is a big life change. Option A should be first on the to do list in my opinion.
 
lucifer92 said:
I got my test back, my testosterone is at 383
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You need more bloodwork; testosterone itself isn’t enough. Sure, you have low testosterone, but you’ll want more bloodwork to diagnose the cause of this. Prolactin, lh, fsh, free t, shbg, estradiol, cortisol, tsh, t3, t4, rt3, etc. Find a doctor who actually knows their stuff and have them order all of those for bloodwork, and whatever else they might think is worth checking.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Proviron isn't a cycle, its more of an enhancer. Its not methylated so you can take it long term.



Yep, that there could be your problem. I'd recommend torem to boost your T levels and proviron to enhance libido. Get bloods a couple months into it, I bet your testerone goes up a lot and you will feel a lot better sexually.

If not, THEN maybe consider TRT. TRT is a big life change. Option A should be first on the to do list in my opinion.
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Isn't torem used for PCT?
Also, won't proviron shut me down?
 
AnabolicGuru said:
You need more bloodwork; testosterone itself isn’t enough. Sure, you have low testosterone, but you’ll want more bloodwork to diagnose the cause of this. Prolactin, lh, fsh, free t, shbg, estradiol, cortisol, tsh, t3, t4, rt3, etc. Find a doctor who actually knows their stuff and have them order all of those for bloodwork, and whatever else they might think is worth checking.
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prolactin: 10,6 ng/ml
lh: 4,4 mIU/ml
shbg: 30,6 nmol/l
fsh: 2,6 mIU/ml
tsh: 1,75 mIU/l
25-oh vitamin d total: 19,85 ng/ml

There are more, but i am kinda lost in the translation
 
lucifer92 said:
Isn't torem used for PCT?
Also, won't proviron shut me down?
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Torem can be used to boost your natural testosterone levels without having to inject test. I bet you could go up 200 points or more. Proviron would be the icing on the cake. They should stack well together.

If that doesn't get you where you need to be then you can consider TRT. My .02
 
Doesn’t sound like your wanting to jump on for the right reason... with that being said you could take 250mg test for a couple weeks/months see if anything changes and go from there
 
lucifer92 said:
prolactin: 10,6 ng/ml
lh: 4,4 mIU/ml
shbg: 30,6 nmol/l
fsh: 2,6 mIU/ml
tsh: 1,75 mIU/l
25-oh vitamin d total: 19,85 ng/ml

There are more, but i am kinda lost in the translation
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Hmmm. How’s your diet and training? Sleep? Any bad lifestyle habits like drinking or drugs? It’s hard to say what your cause of low testosterone is. Maybe a low dose serm might help.
 
Whisky said:
Haha, brutal.

OP - the guys above have you covered bro, jumping on test (or any aas/ph/sarms) isn’t the answer. Sooo many things that could be affecting your libido (eg stress is a cause if loads of negative mental and physical conditions)......

Get your bloods, speak to professionals. Keep hitting the gym and trying to progress your training and nutrition.

Hope you get it sorted bro - let us know how you get off
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Fixed
 
lucifer92 said:
I turned 21 a couple days back, i started weightlifting at 14 for a year, then i boxed for 2 years and now i go to the gym for 3,5 years on and off -mostly on, but i had some really heavy personal stuff to deal with-.
I know my hpta probably isn't done developing yet. I did bloodwork a month back, but still no results. Maybe the mailman messed up -it won't be his first time-. The thing is i don't feel like a man, for the lack of better word. For example there was this really beautiful girl with yoga pants right next to me doing glute work and even through i really wanted to do bad things with her, i just wasn't feeling it. This happens all the time, i would see some girl and i would want to sex her but i am not really feeling it. No, i am not into guys, i want to want to have sex with girls i like, but somethings feels off inside me.
This isn't a done deal, i am going to ask them for my bloodwork again and i will see how it goes and what will be the results, i just wanted someone to share my thoughts.
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How often do you masturbate to porn?
 
lucifer92 said:
Did yall forget to answers or you dont have anything else to add?
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I wouldnt let myself suffer like you dog.
Get with a doctor or self medicate. Walking around not tripping on a$$ at your age is just.......wrong!..
Nobody forgot any answers, your hella young and you have a severe medical problem.
 
Cgkone said:
How often do you masturbate to porn?
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I remember reading an article on how porn is putting the hurt on kids psyche these days. Maybe try not busting for a week, then go ape on a girl. See if it helps. I am not even joking either.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Torem can be used to boost your natural testosterone levels without having to inject test. I bet you could go up 200 points or more. Proviron would be the icing on the cake. They should stack well together.

If that doesn't get you where you need to be then you can consider TRT. My .02
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Torem is getting pulled from the market where i live, could nolvadex do the trick?
 
cody199477 said:
Doesn’t sound like your wanting to jump on for the right reason... with that being said you could take 250mg test for a couple weeks/months see if anything changes and go from there
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What do you mean that it doesnt sound like i want to jump on for the right reason?
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Hmmm. How’s your diet and training? Sleep? Any bad lifestyle habits like drinking or drugs? It’s hard to say what your cause of low testosterone is. Maybe a low dose serm might help.
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Diet and training are good, sleep was good until i got the results back, since then its really messing up with my head.
I dont do drugs, havent drank alcohol in 3-4 months.
And for the serm part, how much would you recommend?
 
Cgkone said:
I wouldnt let myself suffer like you dog.
Get with a doctor or self medicate. Walking around not tripping on a$$ at your age is just.......wrong!..
Nobody forgot any answers, your hella young and you have a severe medical problem.
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Im kinda lost with this thing to be honest. Dont know what to do, i thought about self medicating but i fear that ill mess my self up even more. The doctor said when i went to pick the blood works that everything is fine, thinking of going to another doctor but im afraid that he'll say the same B.S. that im in the supposedly good range.
 
lucifer92 said:
Im kinda lost with this thing to be honest. Dont know what to do, i thought about self medicating but i fear that ill mess my self up even more. The doctor said when i went to pick the blood works that everything is fine, thinking of going to another doctor but im afraid that he'll say the same B.S. that im in the supposedly good range.
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I would first talk to my doctor.
Or try running a PCT. See of you can fix yourself.
Your numbers sound low but I'm not a pro
 
lucifer92 said:
Diet and training are good, sleep was good until i got the results back, since then its really messing up with my head.
I dont do drugs, havent drank alcohol in 3-4 months.
And for the serm part, how much would you recommend?
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Clomid 12.5-25mg every day. I’d mention it to your doctor.
 
lucifer92 said:
I know pct helps your testo get back to normal level, but since mine arent exactly normal how would it work?
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Clomid would block the estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus and pituitary, resulting in secretion on gnrh to the pituitary, which furthermore would result in the release of lh and fsh. This would raise your testosterone to a significant degree, hopefully bringing you up to at least upwards of 600-900ng/dl. There’s no way of knowing if the increases will be permanent though, but I think it’s worth a shot.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Clomid would block the estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus and pituitary, resulting in secretion on gnrh to the pituitary, which furthermore would result in the release of lh and fsh. This would raise your testosterone to a significant degree, hopefully bringing you up to at least upwards of 600-900ng/dl. There’s no way of knowing if the increases will be permanent though, but I think it’s worth a shot.
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That sounds good. I guess since testo will go up so will libido and all that.
Isnt 12.5-25mg a small amount though?
 
lucifer92 said:
Never really run one, only read about it. What would you recommend?
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Clomid. For 4 weeks. Taper down.
Then I'd try natty test boosters.
I'd also squat and deadlift. Eat your body weight in protein. Vitamin D.
Anabolic Guru has a good setup posted for you. 25 mg is fine.
 
This is a shytty situation bro. I agree with all the suggestions here, but I wouldn’t be OK with those numbers at even my age, and I’m 18 years older. No way...
I started dating a 35 year old last year, and there’s no way I could keep up with her and have the life I do, without TRT. See if you can get those numbers up with a Restart Protocol (such as Anabolic Guru’s) and try getting more labs done in 8 weeks. Personally, I’d rather live another 30 years like a champion, than 50 like an old man with no energy, no libido, no confidence or aggression. I won’t ever go back.

That being said, at 21, see if you can get your Test up via restart, rather than jumping on TRT, bc you can’t ever get off hormone therapy without a long, uphill battle that’s tougher than the one you’ve already got going on. I wish you the best. This forum’s got a lot of guys on hormone therapy with great suggestions, so if you end up there, know there’s support, but be ready for it to most likely be a permanent situation... But an awesome one...
 
It certainly won’t hurt at all unless you run it too long. There’s a lot of speculation it’s hard to source non-damaged hcg. I don’t know much about this part of it, but maybe check your sources quality of it, so it’s not a waste. There’s loads of restart protocols that include It but Anabolic Guru probably has dosage for you on that too.
 
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