Thinking about taking super mandro at 30 years old. Chances of gyno?

[bigmarathoner]

As the title says, I'm thinking about doing a short 6-week super mandro cycle. I would take PCT, cycle support, and arimistane from the strongsupplementshop website. I do not want to do any more cycles after this cycle to prevent dependency, so I'm just curious about the potential results from one cycle. If I dont think the side effects are worth it, I won't do it.

I'm 30 years old, I weigh about 220 pounds (not particularly lean, maybe 20% body fat), I bench maybe 380-390 1rm, and ive never taken a steroid, prohormone, or anythjng else before. I'm also training for a marathon, so I run at least 1-2 hours per day.

I want to know if taking super mandro will help push my lifts up a bit, if I can keep the gains after, and if I should worry about the side effects, especially gyno. My resting heart rate is 50 bpm, my blood pressure is 110/70ish, and my cholesterol must be fine, so I'm healthy now and dont want to ruin that.

My main concerns are gyno. What are the chances of developing permanent gyno from a single small cycle? I really dont want to risk permanent cosmetic issues and I'm sure everything else would just stabilize over time. I know that there isn't a single gyno risk percentage, but I'm trying to weigh the risks.

 

[Smont]

It will unlikely cause gyno if your running it solo, it will definitely increase your strength on 300-400mg for 6-8 wees, but running 1ad solo is likely to eventually make you feel like crap, over the course of the first 2-3 weeks I wouldn't expect much, around week 3-4 you will probably start to see it working but by week 5 or 6 you could potentially be looking at bad lathergy and a limp noodle. 4 Andro or testosterone are more likely to cause gyno if you are gyno prone, but they would also make this cycle significantly better and more productive. Regardless, you want a real AI and SERM on hand. You got to be prepared on every cycle because you never know what's going to happen.

 

[bigmarathoner]

It will unlikely cause gyno if your running it solo, it will definitely increase your strength on 300-400mg for 6-8 wees, but running 1ad solo is likely to eventually make you feel like crap, over the course of the first 2-3 weeks I wouldn't expect much, around week 3-4 you will probably start to see it working but by week 5 or 6 you could potentially be looking at bad lathergy and a limp noodle. 4 Andro or testosterone are more likely to cause gyno if you are gyno prone, but they would also make this cycle significantly better and more productive. Regardless, you want a real AI and SERM on hand. You got to be prepared on every cycle because you never know what's going to happen.

I agree, but i avoided the 4 Andros specifically to decrease the probability of getting gyno. I would get real AIs and SERMS, but dont know how to get them. The products I have are easy to buy online. I heard about the lethargy and that makes me nervous since I prioritize running.

 

[Smont]

Without a serm I wouldn't touch 1andro.

I'm actually a rep for MaResearchchems, we have AI and Serms and my screen name is 15% off. I don't want you to feel like I'm just trying to sell you something though, I don't care where you buy it from just make sure you have it on hand or you probably shouldn't be running that cycle. PCT is the most important part of a cycle for people who are not on hormone replacement therapy, and nothing over the counter is a real PCT. 1 Andro is just as suppressive as oral anabolic steroids

 

[Smont]

You want something more user friendly without needing PCT. Get epiandro, don't exceed 600 mg per day and 50mg of regular dhea should give you a little bit of estrogen that you need to make it a good cycle but not nearly enough estrogen to cause you a risk of getting gyno

 

[bigmarathoner]

You want something more user friendly without needing PCT. Get epiandro, don't exceed 600 mg per day and 50mg of regular dhea should give you a little bit of estrogen that you need to make it a good cycle but not nearly enough estrogen to cause you a risk of getting gyno

Hmm Ill think about the epiandro cycle to start. I just wanted to make sure that my chances of gyno are VERY low, since that's the main lingering issue. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

[Smont]

Hmm Ill think about the epiandro cycle to start. I just wanted to make sure that my chances of gyno are VERY low, since that's the main lingering issue. Thanks for the suggestion!

Epiandro has zero estrogen conversion and we've seen a few blood works where there's no suppression at 600 mg and I saw one where they had no suppression at 900 mg. I've used the stuff over 1200 mg a day and I would say if you run the dose above 900 you still want PCT. At 1200+ I would say the effects are similar to winstrol. But at 600-900 you're still going to get enough of a boost in strength to be noticeable. Especially if you've never used anything before. Some people get a little mental boost from it as well like a sense of well-being or a little extra aggression in the gym or the bedroom but overall I would say no side effects for the very large majority of people.

 

[bigmarathoner]

Epiandro has zero estrogen conversion and we've seen a few blood works where there's no suppression at 600 mg and I saw one where they had no suppression at 900 mg. I've used the stuff over 1200 mg a day and I would say if you run the dose above 900 you still want PCT. At 1200+ I would say the effects are similar to winstrol. But at 600-900 you're still going to get enough of a boost in strength to be noticeable. Especially if you've never used anything before. Some people get a little mental boost from it as well like a sense of well-being or a little extra aggression in the gym or the bedroom but overall I would say no side effects for the very large majority of people.

Hmmm thats interesting. I assume thats basically Androvar from strongsupplementshop? It says 100MG epiandrosterone, but i assume thats per pill. I read that neither epiandro nor super mandro convert to estrogen so the chance of gyno is moderately low. However, anything that plays with my hormones can theoretically make my body self-induce gyno. It was also my understanding that both products would suppress testosterone, at least a bit.

 

[botk1161]

for epiandro, I would use a topical version of either stranogen from apex alchemy (they have bogo sales quite often) or ultra epi from iconic formulations, but I think they are sold out right now. Not much oral versions are available anymore and the price of the oral ones can really add up. Topical can be used at 1/2 the dose of the oral version to get the same dose.

 

[manifesto]

Stanogen is the shiet....been running it for years. Love the stuff