Thes's AP/P-slin Journal

[theseus]

Package arrived today. Before I begin, I want to write a little about myself and my schedule so people have an idea of my training etc.

Currently doing DC's 3-way split. I just changed from the 2-way split 4 weeks ago as I felt like I needed more time to warm up for deadlifts and legs.

Current Training Schedule:

Day 1: Back Width, Back Thickness, Biceps, Forearms
Day 2: Chest, Shoulder, Triceps
Day 3: rest
Day 4: Calfs, Hams, Quads
Day 5: Rest
Day 6: Back Width, Back Thickness, Biceps, Forearms
Day 7: rest
Day 8: Chest, Shoulder, Triceps
Day 9: Calfs, Hams, Quads
Day 10: Rest
etc...


Diet on workout days:

8:30-11 : 6 scoops of MPI + 100g carbs from oats + 1 tbs olive oil
11:30 : 25g WMS + l 10g-lucine + 3g beta-alanine + 3g cee + 15g WPI
Noon - 1: Workout, sipping on a second shake that contains the same
1:15: 50g wms
1:30: 30g carbs from oats + 4 scoops MPI
3:30: 10oz chicken breast + 60g carbs from rice + greens

5:30: 6 oz chicken breast with cheese + greens

cardio in here

8:00- either MPI or chicken with cheese...about 50g protein


10:00: eggwhites with cheese. 60g protein

total: protein 500g / carbs 300 / 100g

calories : 4100

Non-workout days:

Totals : protein 450g / carbs 150g / fats 100g

calories :3300
Some questions for USP.
At first I thought it was just going to be a log for P-slin, but both P-slin and AP came in the mail. Should I use both of them according to the instructions? Or is this just a P-slin log?

Also, I plan on cutting for the next 2-4 weeks. Im 255 @ a 11-12% bf right now, and id rather be below 10%. So, should I use this immediately to cut by keeping the diet the same as above, or wait until I get below 10% and use AP/Pslin to go back to a lean bulk.

I think id rather cut first, maybe just 2 weeks, and then start the combo around the first of the month.

Attached is a photo from 2 weeks ago. Ill be able to upload as many photos as I feel like taking.

Any ????? 's

 

[DrnkMnky]

I would run both AP and P-Slin together. You could go ahead and start the AP and P-Slin while you cut for the next 2 weeks or wait, just make sure to keep carbs up during if you decide to run them while cutting.

Good luck.

 

[dexterium]

Some questions for USP.
At first I thought it was just going to be a log for P-slin, but both P-slin and AP came in the mail. Should I use both of them according to the instructions? Or is this just a P-slin log?

You are supplementing with both P-SLIN and Anabolic Pump.

Dosage Protocol:

Anabolic Pump: Take AP two times per day each 15 minutes before a meal containing at least 60 g of complex carbohydrates. Take on both workout days and off days.

P-SLIN: Take P-SLIN once per day.

On workout days: Take 1 capsule fifteen minutes before your pre-workout meal. It is absolutely paramount that you eat at least 60 to 100 grams of complex carbohydrates to maximize the amazing effects of P-Slin.
On Rest Days: Take 1 capsule fifteen minutes before your morning meal. It is absolutely paramount that you eat at least 60 to 100 grams of complex carbohydrates to maximize the amazing effects of P-Slin.

Also, I plan on cutting for the next 2-4 weeks. Im 255 @ a 11-12% bf right now, and id rather be below 10%. So, should I use this immediately to cut by keeping the diet the same as above, or wait until I get below 10% and use AP/Pslin to go back to a lean bulk.

I think id rather cut first, maybe just 2 weeks, and then start the combo around the first of the month.

You should probably do whatever you feel will give you the best results and will prove to you that the products work. If that means waiting for 2 weeks, its all good

Dex

 

[DrnkMnky]

How's it going, decide to wait?

 

[theseus]

I plan on starting Monday.

 

[theseus]

8.27.07

First dose: AP 3x a day 15 minute prior to carb meals and P-slin 15 minutes to pre-workout drink.

Monday: Trained chest, shoulder, triceps. Nothing noticeable in terms of pump etc. Weight was 252.5.

Tuesday: Did cardio from 6-6:45 then again from 7:05-7:30.

I will say I did look a little more full prior to cardio today, but other than that nothing to note.

 

[theseus]

I guess some people are logging their workouts so I can do it too. Im doing the DC 3-way split. I did the two way split for about 2 years and about 2 months ago switched to the 3 way.

I'll explain how I do the exercises for the first week, and from then on just list the exercise and weights.

For chest, I did: Incline Smith Press
All reps are done slow, with a pause at the bottom. Even on the final set.
225x12 (30 sec rest) 225x 10 (2 minute rest) 225 x 6 (3 minute rest) 315x8 (3 minute rest) 335x7 (30 sec rest) x 1 (30 sec rest) x 1 (then a 15 second static hold).

I then went on to the fly machine (the type with the pads). Seat all the way at the top, palms pushing on the pads. I set the arms all the way on the most stretched out position. Each rep is done slow, with a full 3 second rest at the bottom of each rep (in the stretched position) before continuing to the next rep. I just started doing these last week, and they feel really good.
Two sets :70lbsx 22, 90lbs x 14.

Behind the neck shoulder press. I just started doing free shoulder press, as I had been doing smith BTNP for about two years. So my strength has been increasing by 2 reps each week so far.

BNSP.
135x10
185x6
185x6
205x8+1+1

Same idea, each rep is done slow, with a slight pause at the bottom.

I then followed this up with the chest stretch and shoulder stretch.

Triceps:

Lying floor extentions:

85lbsx15
85lbsx12
85lbsx12 (20 second rest) +5 (20 second rest) + 5

I actually lost to what I did last week (14 on first set), but its because I think I was doing these slower then normal, and didn't pyramid up in weights. For these I take 2 seconds on the eccentric, 2 sec hold at the bottom, and then 2 on the concentric. I dont lock out either, which I feel helps fatigure the muscle as it never has time to rest, so there is no pause at the top of the movement (except on the last few reps).

Then a tricep stretch, and thats it.

 

[Guest]

I guess some people are logging their workouts so I can do it too. Im doing the DC 3-way split. I did the two way split for about 2 years and about 2 months ago switched to the 3 way.

I'll explain how I do the exercises for the first week, and from then on just list the exercise and weights.

For chest, I did: Incline Smith Press
All reps are done slow, with a pause at the bottom. Even on the final set.
225x12 (30 sec rest) 225x 10 (2 minute rest) 225 x 6 (3 minute rest) 315x8 (3 minute rest) 335x7 (30 sec rest) x 1 (30 sec rest) x 1 (then a 15 second static hold).

I then went on to the fly machine (the type with the pads). Seat all the way at the top, palms pushing on the pads. I set the arms all the way on the most stretched out position. Each rep is done slow, with a full 3 second rest at the bottom of each rep (in the stretched position) before continuing to the next rep. I just started doing these last week, and they feel really good.
Two sets :70lbsx 22, 90lbs x 14.

Behind the neck shoulder press. I just started doing free shoulder press, as I had been doing smith BTNP for about two years. So my strength has been increasing by 2 reps each week so far.

BNSP.
135x10
185x6
185x6
205x8+1+1

Same idea, each rep is done slow, with a slight pause at the bottom.

I then followed this up with the chest stretch and shoulder stretch.

Triceps:

Lying floor extentions:

85lbsx15
85lbsx12
85lbsx12 (20 second rest) +5 (20 second rest) + 5

I actually lost to what I did last week (14 on first set), but its because I think I was doing these slower then normal, and didn't pyramid up in weights. For these I take 2 seconds on the eccentric, 2 sec hold at the bottom, and then 2 on the concentric. I dont lock out either, which I feel helps fatigure the muscle as it never has time to rest, so there is no pause at the top of the movement (except on the last few reps).

Then a tricep stretch, and thats it.

How was the workout energy wise?

 

[theseus]

I didnt notice anything difference energy wise during the workout.

However, following the workout, I felt extremely tired for about an hour, and then slowly came out of the funk. It was a feeling that I hadnt felt before, even with insulin use. It wasnt a feeling of being hypo, but just behind exhausted.

I didnt notice it yesterday, so ill let you know how i feel after todays workout.

 

[theseus]

I waited 30 minutes after taking P-slin to take carbs today, and I did feel a slight feeling of going hypo.

Todays workout I felt like I did have more energy then usual, as I did deadlifts and still did some light cardio at the end of the workout, which I usually dont do.

Workout was as follows:

Weights:5:40-6:20
Cardio : 6:20-6:40

Rack Chins:
BWx10
BW (+25lbs) x 10
BW (+25lbs) x 10
BW (+45lbs) x 10 (30 second rest) x bw x 3

Stretches

Deadlifts, shoulder width stance, no belt, under-over grip.

225x5
315x4
405x4
455x7

Felt like I could have done another rep, if I was stupid. I hurt my back and had to take 2 years off from deadlifts and squats, so I really focus on form and keeping my back flat and shoulders back, as not to re injure myself. But, last time I did deadlifts using 455, I did 6, so its an improvement.

90 degree preacher BB curl:

So I use the opposite (flat) side of the preacher curl bench. Start with arms completely extended, I go about 1/2 - 3/4 of the way up, hold for 1, and then take 2 seconds on the eccentric. I then hold at the bottom for 2 (completely extended) before starting the next one. There is no swinging, and no momentum, and no holding at the top to rest. Its really a good movement.

85x10
85x10
85x10
85x8 (30 sec rest) + 5 + 5

Bicep stretch

Energy felt good, but I was bloated as hell today. It may have been due to eating 32oz of cottage cheese for lunch, and I dont usually do dairy, so that may have done it. Last night I took AP after my cardio around 8, and with no carbs. By 10:30 I had veins in my legs that I had never seen before, and looked pretty good. I tend to hold more water at night, and I didnt feel bloated.

 

[theseus]

8.31.07

Legs

Calf Press: 490x40,490x20,490x15,490x15,490x12

Each rep of each set is progressively slower. So first set is fast, last set has a 4-5 second negative with a 5-10 second hold in the stretched position.

Seated Hamstring Curl:
150x20
170x15
190x15
190x16+4

Leg Press Squat

I usually dont do leg press, but my lower back was sore for deadlifts and 2 hours of walking the previous day.

12 plates x 15
16 plates x12
20 plates x 12
24 plates x 10 + 3
14 plates x 30

I did two hours of cardio yesterday, and still felt pretty good during the workouts.

9.1.07

Smith Incline Press:
335x7+1+1

Seated Fly Machine
90x22, 110x12

BNSP: 210x9+2

Triceps:
2 sets of dips till failure
2 sets of 1 arm overhead extention 55x8

Felt very good after the workout today. Even at the end I still felt like I had energy. But, about 2 hours later, I completely crashed and took a 4 hour nap. Which isnt totally unusual, but after getting up, im still really tired.

 

[theseus]

Nothing to note over the past few workouts.
I feel the same, and look pretty much the same. Im going to continue to cut though, and since Ill be taking in less then 50g carbs on non-weight training days, I wont take P-slin, but will continue with AP on those days.

I guess the only thing I have noticed is that Im getting leaner. But I would attribute that to DIET, not P-slin or AP.

Fullness, endurance, etc seems to be the same. As the day goes on, I do get fuller. Even on my low-carb days. But, I did before these products...

So right now diet has been like this:

8:00 - Pslin on workout days
8:15 - 50g WPI + 20g oats
8:45 - 50g WPI + 40g waxy maize
9:00 - start Sipping on 25g WPI + 80g WMS
9:30-10:30 - workout
10:30 - 50g WPI
11:00 - 3 servings of no-fat cottage cheese
12:00 - protein/fat/veggie meal
2: 00 - ""
5 ""
8 ""
10 protein/veggie meal

I started this on monday.

Non-workout days:

10:00-12:00 - Sip on shake containing 150g of MPI and 3tbs of olive oil + 5 omega3's
12:00 - 2 beef patties + 2 cups green beans
3:00 - 12oz chicken + cheese + 5 omega 3's
5:00 - 5 whole omega-3 eggs + 1/2 cup of egg whites
7:00-10:00 125g MPI + 2tbs olive oil + 2 cups veggies

11:00 - 3 servings (1/2 tub) of non-fat cottage cheese + omega-3's.

 

[theseus]

So far so good. Still looking very dry and full at night. Starting to look better earlier in the day as well. Not sure if its AP/slin, or new diet.

I will say, even with low carbs, I took a pslin/AP and didnt feel any hypo. I get a hypo feeling from na-rala and/or humalog when taking in lots of carbs, so I dont think this is very strong. Maybe I should be taking twice the dose? It will be interesting to see how I feel/look when I discontinue the product, as I think that will be the most telling piece in all of this.

 

[dertynasty]

We Want An Update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[theseus]

We Want An Update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I ended up being sick for most of October. But before I got sick, I was starting to get leaner. I could justify the use of this for contest prep when on carb up days when trying to fill out.

I didnt see anything outside of the norm in terms of strength or mass gains, though.