The Shreddening! Luke vs Steve!

[SkubaSteve89]

Lol if you look at nutra for example and you scroll down to the bottom of the product information where it says "countries this is banned in" and it's always Australia and only Australia

if it works, its illegal, im pretty sure theres been attempts to ban creatine and protein in the past by weak-ass 60 yr old politicians who get scared just looking at a gym.

 

[Lukef2000]

if it works, its illegal, im pretty sure theres been attempts to ban creatine and protein in the past by weak-ass 60 yr old politicians who get scared just looking at a gym.

Maybe the government should start looking at the money that could be made off supps that actually work! Hahah that wouldn't surprise me man! They make life difficult that for sure!

 

[SkubaSteve89]

Maybe the government should start looking at the money that could be made off supps that actually work! Hahah that wouldn't surprise me man! They make life difficult that for sure!

hahaha indeed, they really should allow gear for personal use and over the age of 18, but hey what do i know, im just a gym guy thats done his homework, not some scrawny middle-aged guy that chose to lie and cheat for a profession and then label steroid users with the same brush i paint myself. anyways cutting update: weights now 90kg down 2kg, ill be doing swimming everyday now that its getting warmer and my legs make running impossible

 

[Lukef2000]

hahaha indeed, they really should allow gear for personal use and over the age of 18, but hey what do i know, im just a gym guy thats done his homework, not some scrawny middle-aged guy that chose to lie and cheat for a profession and then label steroid users with the same brush i paint myself. anyways cutting update: weights now 90kg down 2kg, ill be doing swimming everyday now that its getting warmer and my legs make running impossible

I agree man. IMO you should be able to got to a doctor and get it prescribed but have it prescribed as a kit with support supps and pct etc etc. Wishful thinking lol.
Down 2kg! Good sh*t bro! I'm down 2kg too! Even so far! I did ten minutes of cardio after my weights session today. That was enough lol.

 

[SkubaSteve89]

I agree man. IMO you should be able to got to a doctor and get it prescribed but have it prescribed as a kit with support supps and pct etc etc. Wishful thinking lol.
Down 2kg! Good sh*t bro! I'm down 2kg too! Even so far! I did ten minutes of cardio after my weights session today. That was enough lol.

Exactly man, they say how dangerous using is, well what about forcing guys in OZ to get vet grade crap, and outlawing pct's like nolva torem etc? i was thinking about just staying with some relatives in the UK where its legal for personal use just so i can get a quality bulk on, considering since the raid it'd be almost impossible to get some decent gear from overseas now, and im against forking out hundreds and hundreds for crap meant for horses. haha cheers man, id rather be down 4kg's considering the effort ive put in, but my strength has shot up in the 2 weeks (ive got my log up in the cutting section here) so i cant really complain. hahaha maan i WISH i could do cardio, my legs are starting to piss me off haha.

 

[SkubaSteve89]

starting pics! sorry it took so long to get em done, theres a whole heap but ill just upload the basics Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed

 

[Lukef2000]

starting pics! sorry it took so long to get em done, theres a whole heap but ill just upload the basics <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68261"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68262"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68263"/>

Bout time bro! Now let's kick this thing up a notch and get rid of this fat!!

 

[SkubaSteve89]

Bout time bro! Now let's kick this thing up a notch and get rid of this fat!!

haha yeah im looking at the photos and im like sheet i let myself go! hahaha yeah defs time to really increase the tempo, i wanna be round 80-85kgs and under 5% at the end of this thing

 

[abformulations]

haha yeah im looking at the photos and im like sheet i let myself go! hahaha yeah defs time to really increase the tempo, i wanna be round 80-85kgs and under 5% at the end of this thing

Under 5%bf? Lol

 

[Lukef2000]

haha yeah im looking at the photos and im like sheet i let myself go! hahaha yeah defs time to really increase the tempo, i wanna be round 80-85kgs and under 5% at the end of this thing

Not much you can do tho man when your sidelined with injuries. I had to take 5 months off with my back and then just as I got back into it I tore a rotator cuff tendon. Once I got back in the gym I wasn't lifting much more than my girl lol. Now that was embarrassing!!! 5%? you've got your work cut out for you! I'll be happy at 80kg at under 10% in 8 weeks! Hopefully with epi/dmz I can put on a couple lbs LBM even in a deficit

 

[SkubaSteve89]

Not much you can do tho man when your sidelined with injuries. I had to take 5 months off with my back and then just as I got back into it I tore a rotator cuff tendon. Once I got back in the gym I wasn't lifting much more than my girl lol. Now that was embarrassing!!! 5%? you've got your work cut out for you! I'll be happy at 80kg at under 10% in 8 weeks! Hopefully with epi/dmz I can put on a couple lbs LBM even in a deficit

yeah i know, im just starting back strength-wise but imma get there hahaha yeah its a bit fo a blow to the ego when ure struggling to lift them puny weights! haha yeah its ambitious but i reckon after 6 weeks of IF followed by 2 weeks of just fish and dehydration and sauna's i should get there inb4 dying of a heart attack and unaware bbforum.com kents start roidusations

 

[ozHarris]

haha yeah im looking at the photos and im like sheet i let myself go! hahaha yeah defs time to really increase the tempo, i wanna be round 80-85kgs and under 5% at the end of this thing

If you started at 92kg and 24% bf, that is 22kgs of fat, to be 80kg @ 5% you are gonna need to pack on about 5 kg of muscle at the same time.
Huge effort but you are gonna need to pump some serious gear into yourself.

Good luck guys....

 

[redms]

You guys have a lot of blood sweat and tears ahead of you. These are really body transformations. I will be looking forward to the finish photos. Good luck?

 

[Lukef2000]

Going from my weigh in on Monday I have 12.3kg of bf on me at 15%. If I lose 6kg that should put me at around 8-9% Granted there will be some water that I'll need to lose but hopefully not more than a kg or two since I've already dropped a fair bit. 78kg is my goal but I'm hoping with epi and DMZ I should beable to put on a couple kgs an hopefully peak at 80kg at 10% or less

 

[SkubaSteve89]

If you started at 92kg and 24% bf, that is 22kgs of fat, to be 80kg @ 5% you are gonna need to pack on about 5 kg of muscle at the same time.
Huge effort but you are gonna need to pump some serious gear into yourself.

Good luck guys....

yeah ive done the numbers, prior to the surgery i was 96kg and 15% BF so im hoping i can regain as much lost muscle via muscle memory on this 90 day gig, aaand cant really comment on what im on since im trying to be fitness model

 

[SkubaSteve89]

weight update: im now 89kg , although that maybe due to the fact that i was sick last night from eating a kangaroo steak, its the second time ive tried to eat it and the second time its made me quite ill, so despite how good its supposed to be for your body, im going to switch it for lean beef mince instead.

 

[Lukef2000]

weight update: im now 89kg , although that maybe due to the fact that i was sick last night from eating a kangaroo steak, its the second time ive tried to eat it and the second time its made me quite ill, so despite how good its supposed to be for your body, im going to switch it for lean beef mince instead.

I can't do kangaroo. Can't stand the taste!

 

[redms]

weight update: im now 89kg , although that maybe due to the fact that i was sick last night from eating a kangaroo steak, its the second time ive tried to eat it and the second time its made me quite ill, so despite how good its supposed to be for your body, im going to switch it for lean beef mince instead.

Have you tried roo mince? I found the roo steaks are a bit too chewy.

 

[SkubaSteve89]

havent tried roo mince, though i can EAT kanga just fine its keeping the shyte down thats the problem! i dont mind the taste; bit weird like a cross between lamb and beef, and something else, maybe a weird chickeny taste, eh i dont think ill try anything with roo in it again, honestly feeling like im gonna puke for 6 hours and cant sleep is not something i want to experience again!

 

[Lukef2000]

Hows your week coming along bro?? My weeks been focked. Need to undo some bad eating starting tonight!

 

[SkubaSteve89]

Hows your week coming along bro?? My weeks been focked. Need to undo some bad eating starting tonight!

hey brattah! Yeah mines going aight, for some reason im back up to 90kg last time i weighed myself, im doing a carb-up today and then ill introduce a small amount everyday rather than trying to go zero carbs, as my strength has gone down on some lifts and my weight-loss has stalled. hahaha whats been going on man? you been getting tempted too much by dat dere makdonuldz?

 

[Lukef2000]

hey brattah! Yeah mines going aight, for some reason im back up to 90kg last time i weighed myself, im doing a carb-up today and then ill introduce a small amount everyday rather than trying to go zero carbs, as my strength has gone down on some lifts and my weight-loss has stalled. hahaha whats been going on man? you been getting tempted too much by dat dere makdonuldz?

That's no good bro! yeah I do under 100g carbs for most of the week and then one day I'll have like 250 and that seems to just stock me back up! Nah it wasn't that bad but you know what it's like when you move house you kinda just eat what you can. Last time I weighed in I was 85.3 which was a surprise after the few days I had prior to weighing in! I'll be back up after a carbup I'm sure ! How's your PT assignments going??

 

[SkubaSteve89]

That's no good bro! yeah I do under 100g carbs for most of the week and then one day I'll have like 250 and that seems to just stock me back up! Nah it wasn't that bad but you know what it's like when you move house you kinda just eat what you can. Last time I weighed in I was 85.3 which was a surprise after the few days I had prior to weighing in! I'll be back up after a carbup I'm sure ! How's your PT assignments going??

yeah i have no idea why consideirng my diet was basically all meat and veggies, and i weighed myself in the morning no food and after a massive dump , yeah im thinking of having maybe 100g of white rice a day 6 days a week and every friday just go overboard with rice and sweet potato whilst still maintaining the same amount of protein and veggies. aah yeah i understand man, hahah seems like ive got some catching up to do! ive just been to a chinese resturaunt for lunch and had 2 large servings of rice and then for dinner i had 2 steaks and 4 gluten free buns, im just about to have 300g lean mince with 100g of white rice, and then my last meal (if i can stomach it) will be 250g of Basa Fillet with another 100g of rice which should end up being a decent carb up day actually good man, im jus twaiting for my cert III to come in the mail, ive done all the theory for cert IV, im doing the cert IV theory exam on monday, im not too sure what i need to do for the practical side of Cert IV though, ill ask when i hand in my exam, but considering im back to lifting i should be able to handle it. whats the ETA of you doing OH&S?

 

[Lukef2000]

yeah i have no idea why consideirng my diet was basically all meat and veggies, and i weighed myself in the morning no food and after a massive dump , yeah im thinking of having maybe 100g of white rice a day 6 days a week and every friday just go overboard with rice and sweet potato whilst still maintaining the same amount of protein and veggies. aah yeah i understand man, hahah seems like ive got some catching up to do! ive just been to a chinese resturaunt for lunch and had 2 large servings of rice and then for dinner i had 2 steaks and 4 gluten free buns, im just about to have 300g lean mince with 100g of white rice, and then my last meal (if i can stomach it) will be 250g of Basa Fillet with another 100g of rice which should end up being a decent carb up day actually good man, im jus twaiting for my cert III to come in the mail, ive done all the theory for cert IV, im doing the cert IV theory exam on monday, im not too sure what i need to do for the practical side of Cert IV though, ill ask when i hand in my exam, but considering im back to lifting i should be able to handle it. whats the ETA of you doing OH&S?

Why white rice?? White rice is a simple carb from memory. Why don't you eat brown rice?
Hahaha yep that's a good carb up lol. I actually find it hard to eat any more than 300g of carbs from good sources!
Yah bro cert4 prac is easy! You should breeze through it! When I did mine I had a massive surgical incision down to my tailbone and I still passed.... I ended up bleeding all over the bathroom afterwards but I passed lol!
I've just about got all the info I need to make an informed decision about it. From what I've been told, since I have an emergency response background I should be able to skip cert 4 oh&s and jump straight into the diploma! So that cuts about 12 months off my study time

 

[SkubaSteve89]

Why white rice?? White rice is a simple carb from memory. Why don't you eat brown rice?
Hahaha yep that's a good carb up lol. I actually find it hard to eat any more than 300g of carbs from good sources!
Yah bro cert4 prac is easy! You should breeze through it! When I did mine I had a massive surgical incision down to my tailbone and I still passed.... I ended up bleeding all over the bathroom afterwards but I passed lol!
I've just about got all the info I need to make an informed decision about it. From what I've been told, since I have an emergency response background I should be able to skip cert 4 oh&s and jump straight into the diploma! So that cuts about 12 months off my study time

no its still complex, its just alot more refined than brown, its the same as white bread etc, not much good starch and faster digesting, but my mum didnt buy any brown rice, so i had to make do. haha im the opposite, i used to live off just rice and potato when i first got diagnosed with celiacs, and i used to really gorge on brown rice when i did cross country in highschool, so im used to eating huge amounts of just carbs, im not used to eating the amount of meat im currently taking though haha! ah sweet as, hopefully it'll be easier than the cert III prac which was a f'king nightmare to get done! hahaha man thats nasty bro, atleast you didnt bleed on anyone, imagine trying to spot someone on the bench for ur prac and then bleeding all over their face oh nice man! sounds like you can give the fkwits at your job the flick and then switch to your dream job, and then you'll be able to have steady meals since no more night shift

 

[ozHarris]

Keep us up to date boys..

I'm also a few weeks into my own cut cycle before the great Aussie summer hits, so I'm using you guys to keep me motivated....

 

[Lukef2000]

So after two weeks of a calorie deficit I weighed in today at 85.1kg 187.5lb. Progress. My girlfriend commented how my tummy has gone down so that's nice that she noticed
I started epi today at 20mg daily and will start DMZ when my liver supports arrive. Ive been preloading milk thistle and will continue taking that until my liv52 and my aegis liver support arrives in a couple days.
Sorry bout the lack of updates. Keep forgetting to update this one when I update my other log.

 

[Lukef2000]

Keep us up to date boys..

I'm also a few weeks into my own cut cycle before the great Aussie summer hits, so I'm using you guys to keep me motivated....

How's your cut coming along bro?? I'm going to kick mine up a notch starting from Wednesday when I go on days off.

 

[ozHarris]

How's your cut coming along bro?? I'm going to kick mine up a notch starting from Wednesday when I go on days off.

A little slower than yours. Im dropping fat:muscle at a ratio of around 2:1. A little more muscle than hoped.
Dropped from around 94kg to just over 90..
First month 3 weeks have been natural but have grabbed some Alpha-1 and clenbuterol.
Alpha-1 will start shortly for a 4 week cycle and Clen will be here in 2 weeks, will jump on that straight away.

Main loss so far is like yourself, in my stomach.. After a bit of a bulk, it has shrunken down a lot.

Cheers..

 

[Lukef2000]

A little slower than yours. Im dropping fat:muscle at a ratio of around 2:1. A little more muscle than hoped.
Dropped from around 94kg to just over 90..
First month 3 weeks have been natural but have grabbed some Alpha-1 and clenbuterol.
Alpha-1 will start shortly for a 4 week cycle and Clen will be here in 2 weeks, will jump on that straight away.

Main loss so far is like yourself, in my stomach.. After a bit of a bulk, it has shrunken down a lot.

Cheers..

Sounds like you've got a solid plan bro. What makes you think you've lost muscle?? You'll always lose a few reps etc when your carb depleted. The stomach is the main area I need to lose it lol I don't really store it anywhere else.

 

[ozHarris]

Sounds like you've got a solid plan bro. What makes you think you've lost muscle?? You'll always lose a few reps etc when your carb depleted. The stomach is the main area I need to lose it lol I don't really store it anywhere else.

That's the thing, I haven't lost any reps and weights lifted are still increasing even tho I'm dropping body weight. I was expecting them to.
I've got some of those body weight/fat scales. Probably not too accurate, as long as they are consistent so I can see what is going on.

M1A starts tomorrow.. Woohoo!

 

[gokix811]

Good luck gentlemen

 

[Lukef2000]

That's the thing, I haven't lost any reps and weights lifted are still increasing even tho I'm dropping body weight. I was expecting them to.
I've got some of those body weight/fat scales. Probably not too accurate, as long as they are consistent so I can see what is going on.

M1A starts tomorrow.. Woohoo!

If your not losing reps or strength I doubt your losing any muscle bro! I wouldn't take too much notice of them bodyfat scales man. They're not accurate.... At all.

 

[Lukef2000]

Good luck gentlemen

Thanks kix should start to get interesting in a couple weeks

 

[Lukef2000]

So my liv52 turned up today... Also bumped up epi dose to 30mg. Let's hope this epi lives up to the hype !

 

[Lukef2000]

So my week three weigh in was yesterday and I've put on .5kg. I don't think it's fat as such but epi is starting to fill me up with glycogen etc. Week two of epi and I'm going to stick with 30mg for this week and then bump it up to 40mg next week as well as introducing DMZ. On a positive note when I flex my abs I can see a distinct outline of a four pack.... Still have my work cut out for me tho!

 

[SkubaSteve89]

Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removedend of week 6! half way there!

 

[Mack411]

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[ozHarris]

Steve, you look like you've dropped a crap load of fat!

Good work mate.

 

[Lukef2000]

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70309"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70310"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70311"/>end of week 6! half way there!

You won't make this easy for me will you!! You've lost a stack of bf bro! Looking good homie! Will try get some pics up on Monday when I can get the girl to take some for me!

 

[SkubaSteve89]

Steve, you look like you've dropped a crap load of fat!

Good work mate.

cheers Harris! i didnt think it was that much of a noticable change in the wiastline but ill take any extra motivation i can get! Hows your cutting going bro?

You won't make this easy for me will you!! You've lost a stack of bf bro! Looking good homie! Will try get some pics up on Monday when I can get the girl to take some for me!

hahaha thanks man, its kind of hard to tell how much fat ive lost since the weight scales have said im up a kilo since i started, well i reckon we've got the same waistline now judging by the pics, so it will be a close one!

 

[ozHarris]

cheers Harris! i didnt think it was that much of a noticable change in the wiastline but ill take any extra motivation i can get! Hows your cutting going bro?
!

My cut is coming along well, just started clenbuterol last Monday and it has dried my up a little already, it is great stuff.
I was going to log on here but didn't have the time to do it on 2 boards. My log is on swoldiers.net

Cheers..

 

[texasfinest2]

It is coming along nicely!