I doubt creatine will be in there... no need to put it in a pre and CEL/SNS don't usually add "filler" ingredients... im think more like @soxbsbll05 said.Ok. So you might get Creatine thrown in there along with Citrulline. Not sure how much else besides what's in VasoForce. Taurine might be another ingredient included. Cheap but effective.
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New ingredient: Nitro-Rocket
Apparently is a naturally derived nitrate product from arugula. Can’t wait to see what Mr.Kramer says about this!![]()
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New ingredient: Nitro-Rocket
Apparently is a naturally derived nitrate product from arugula. Can’t wait to see what Mr.Kramer says about this!![]()
There better be somewhere in the UK I can get this![]()
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So what you do is,
Step one; be a hardcore supp company with spratans/Demi god inspired branding
Step two; have great preworkouts and products
Step three; think, we want to distance ourselves from the ‘hardcore’ crowd
Step four; see a new company that’s aimed at the ‘lifestyle’ crowd and is getting lots of hype
Step 5; rebrand, rebrand, rebrand
Step 6; rebrand until you too are a ‘lifestyle’ supp company
Step 1: Successful hardcore brand
Step 2: ???
Step 3: ‘lifestyle’ brand
Must include ghost style font and some sort of cereal protein.
Step 1: Successful hardcore brand
Step 2: ???
Step 3: ‘lifestyle’ brand
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Jack3d is coming back with DMHA.
Geranium is usually about hiding dmaa so let's hope for thatReally? DMHA and what is the geranium about?
Really? DMHA and what is the geranium about?
Always ready for PES insider. With that said.... please dont be Blueberry!
You must have forgotten that Jack3d featured a “University Studied” formulaI also can’t believe people are still clutching onto this pre, we live in a time where open labels, clinically dosed ingredients even patented ingredients exist, yet people want a prop blend of stims![]()
Mint Chocolate Cookie
New PES Select Flavor
Dropping 10 AM Eastern
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So it does contain both DMHA/DMAA?
Strange that usp let ‘another’ company have modern BCAA yet they are now producing jack3d again..
Wonder What’s up with that
What's with hi tech putting yohimbe in everything
My money is on this not actually having dmha or dmaa. It will be spiked with an amphetamine analogue until it gets super popular again, then they will reformulate it and pull the analogue out and "remove" the dmha and dmaa from the label.Jack3d is apparantly making a reappearance. Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
My money is on this not actually having dmha or dmaa. It will be spiked with an amphetamine analogue until it gets super popular again, then they will reformulate it and pull the analogue out and "remove" the dmha and dmaa from the label.
I'm very tempted, was a big fan of the OG jack3dSo in other words, purchase immediately lol Driven Sports did the same thing with "Craze the OG" and it was nothing special.
Now this looks goodThis is gonna make a lot of people happy... pretty much anything that vasoforce xt didn’t have this does
I was thinking the same thing
I also can’t believe people are still clutching onto this pre, we live in a time where open labels, clinically dosed ingredients even patented ingredients exist, yet people want a prop blend of stims![]()
Getting more from Jack3d than anything else since was part of the problem. DMAA and god knows whatever undeclared stims.I used to get more from jack3d than any of the new stuff. Also IMO, these patented ingredients are mostly a joke. Just a way to get people to pay more.
Quest RTD Protein Shakes
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$2.25 Each which is affordable for convenienceNice, if the price point is good on these they should be choice.