The New Product Release Thread

I like the profile until the Y. Really wish companies would stop, drop and not roll (rim shot) with the yohimbe in preWO's when it's most notable use is a fat burner (unless that pre is specifically marketed as a preWO fat burner/thermo) but plenty of other pre's to use.
 
FWIW EU/AUS version is A-Y free. We feel A-Y adds a nice addition to the formula for nice kick and extended stim feel but I do understand some people dobt like A-Y but as a complete formula a majority of people will love it!!
 
The problem with AY is if you're off in the mix, the difference between a nice strong buzz and noticeable sides, is 2mg. I had a lot of pressure to put it in our new pre and refused. 80% of people respond really well to AY, but those that don't, REALLY don't.
 
Saw this teaser...
 

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1Fast400 said:
The problem with AY is if you're off in the mix, the difference between a nice strong buzz and noticeable sides, is 2mg. I had a lot of pressure to put it in our new pre and refused. 80% of people respond really well to AY, but those that don't, REALLY don't.
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I'm in the 20% that doesn't respond well to it. Hate the stuff, tried for years to try to get my body to adapt bc of the fat burning effects it has (and if combined with exercise better have an ambulance on standby) but finally just gave up on it altogether about 9 months ago bc of the sides regardless of form or qty. The general annoyance I have with it anymore is the number of companies that just started tossing it in their preWO's to replace the loss of use of other stims (1,3; AmP etc) which just seemed to lack innovation to me. Kudos to you for not including it in your upcoming pre.
 
I tried Giant Rush which has that in there I believe. Just made my member turtle up.

On the AY comment, if you're that sensitive but still want to try it, try YHCL.
 
raul87 said:
I don't even know what DMHA but I finally tried DMAA yesterday is it stronger than DMAA?
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No

It's not bad tho but I like both DMAA and AMP Cit far more

Couple pre's using it right now including the new Game Day it was pretty good. To be fair I don't have DMHA in bulk to try at various amounts so something to keep in mind.
 
Rob1882 said:
No

It's not bad tho but I like both DMAA and AMP Cit far more

Couple pre's using it right now including the new Game Day it was pretty good. To be fair I don't have DMHA in bulk to try at various amounts so something to keep in mind.
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Focus is good but energy is not nearly the same.
 
Adizzle1 said:
Focus is good but energy is not nearly the same.
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Ya I would need it in bulk to really try it at different doses combined with various other stimulants to get a full picture of what it can provide to compare it directly, but I have used a lot of AMP Cit and a good bit of 1,3 I thought both were stronger.

I liked the new Game Day and I would certainly be open to trying others using it
 
Rob1882 said:
Ya I would need it in bulk to really try it at different doses combined with various other stimulants to get a full picture of what it can provide to compare it directly, but I have used a lot of AMP Cit and a good bit of 1,3 I thought both were stronger.

I liked the new Game Day and I would certainly be open to trying others using it
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Yea we have quite a bit and have tried it in various combinations.
 
Rob1882 said:
No

It's not bad tho but I like both DMAA and AMP Cit far more

Couple pre's using it right now including the new Game Day it was pretty good. To be fair I don't have DMHA in bulk to try at various amounts so something to keep in mind.
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I tried the new Game Day for the first time today, I actually loved it. Might have to pick up a tub when I can afford it.
 
Rob1882 said:
No

It's not bad tho but I like both DMAA and AMP Cit far more

Couple pre's using it right now including the new Game Day it was pretty good. To be fair I don't have DMHA in bulk to try at various amounts so something to keep in mind.
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Is this the order of effectiveness:

1. DMAA
2. AMP-Citrate
3. DMHA

I have tried DMAA recently in mesomorph and found it around 30-40% more effective than AMP, but i find AMP provides more aggression than DMAA,.

DMHA, due to being new is one i have not tried yet, is it worth a try to sub between AMP and DMAA for heavy leg sessions.
 
GNO said:
They had to put arcofuel in it... Ugh!
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Thought exactly the same when i saw the formula. Was so pumped for the release of this, but i simply won't buy it when the formula contains this ingredient. They claim it's not carcinogenic when it isn't chewed, but there is no science backing this.
 
Best way to enjoy that pre:

Half a scoop + 2 scoops High Volume

Gotta get your non-stimulant acute aids in too...
 
GNO said:
They had to put arcofuel in it... Ugh!
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Just looked on Stack3d. That formula has was a beta version. Formula has been updated. Arco fuel and Dmha dropped. Huperzine added at 300 mcg. Tyrosine raised to 750 mgs. And caffeine raised to 350 mgs.
 
onder18 said:
Just looked on Stack3d. That formula has was a beta version. Formula has been updated. Arco fuel and Dmha dropped. Huperzine added at 300 mcg. Tyrosine raised to 750 mgs. And caffeine raised to 350 mgs.
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Thanks for the update, that's great news! Now the product is interesting.
 
Segansational said:
No thanks.



This seems like way too many stims. 75 mg DMAA + 300 caffeine to begin with, then adding 2-amino-5 and a noot? Call me crazy (cause I know how people like their stims around here), but that sounds like overkill.
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First product i've seen using 1,4-Dimethylpentylamine. Wasn't a fan of it lol.
 
People who ignore the danger of arcofuel is beyond me. Is the risk worth taking? I don't think so. I can still have the same insane workout from having Meso.
 
janson_kaniaz said:
People who ignore the danger of arcofuel is beyond me. Is the risk worth taking? I don't think so. I can still have the same insane workout from having Meso.
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I don't agree with your assessment of "Danger" don't want it don't use it - Updated profile list posted by stacked and above in this thread even.

But their updated profile removed it and it will likely be running along side Dust V2 similar to the Cobra 6P and Cobra 6P Extreme is my thoughts on the Dust V2 and Dust Extreme.

I am a fan of Dust V2 and was a fan of the Angel Dust before they removed AMP Cit :( this is a nice return for 1,3 on the Dust looking forward to trying the gummy bears myself.
 
janson_kaniaz said:
People who ignore the danger of arcofuel is beyond me. Is the risk worth taking? I don't think so. I can still have the same insane workout from having Meso.
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The risk vs reward just isn't nearly there for me. There are plenty of other strong/effective stimulants that don't carry that potential risk; there were at least a handful in that formula, haha.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
The risk vs reward just isn't nearly there for me. There are plenty of other strong/effective stimulants that don't carry that potential risk; there were at least a handful in that formula, haha.
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Updated or rather the actual official label for it
 
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