The difference of LBM gain

Rockzilla

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After I finish cutting, I planned on staggering Massmax XT and follidrone 2.0 by themselves, each for 8 weeks to ascertain what and how they affect me.

Not sure if this question belongs here, but with proper nutrition and training what difference can I expect between 4 months of natty anabolics and 30 days of a PH?

I'm a trained individual and have been for years now so I understand the marginal results as opposed to untrained. 4 days a week PPL, might move it to 5 since I've read great things about the 2. That just means I'll be able to eat more lol.
 
All else being equal (diet, training, rest etc etc)...depends on the natty supp, and the PH. Some PH will be sufficiently potent for a short 30 day blast, others will barely have time to register effect.

Another thing to consider with PH or hormonals in general, is that unlike natty gainz, PH gainz are realistically not limited solely to the time (30 days "on-cycle") you are using. You need to consider a much bigger/longer window: recovery from the cycle (PCT), and beyond.

You can potentially lose all your PH on-cycle gainz after youve come off. In essence, then, itd be inaccurate to compare the on-cycle gainz of a 30 day PH cycle to a natty anabolic run, if you lose some or all those PH gainz over the course of your post cycle recovery:

"I gained 15lbs running epistane, bros! And you natty homos only gained 2lbs! Oh but I lost all 15lbs two months later cos my hormonal recovery sucked."

Make sense?
 
U cannot really compare natural supps with phs.

Even 8 weeks of natural supps cannot compare to most phs used for 4 weeks.
The gains on natural supps are minimal if any, there are no proofs or studies on natural supp for reason.
Most people have a better diat and better training regime when they buy natural supps, and placebo is hell of a thing.

But also u get no sides with nautral supp.

So on the end its :
- natural no sides, littel to no gains from the supps alone8
-phs=gains but also sides.
Ofc with phs u need also proper PCT.
 
Natural supplements are great, but if you have ran anything hormonal before, I think you may be disappointed. Do not get me wrong, Fd 2.0 and MassMax XT are great supplements are get stellar feedback. If one never ran anything hormonal before, they will probably be satisfied with the results of anything natural compared to someone that has used hormones before.
 
Agreed with everyone else's responses. Natural anabolics, although they can be beneficial, don't deliver nearly as much as a PH cycle would in most cases. Since PH's are converting to exogenous hormones in the body, the comparison is apples to oranges. I would also agree with what Nac said as well though, most people lose a significant amount of their gains after cycling off a PH, especially a shorter cycle.

I would definitely give Massmax XT and FD2 a try and see what you think, but don't be expecting PH gains from these products. Massmax XT will definitely increase hunger which can help with gaining weight and size, but you won't see any miraculous "12 pounds in 4 weeks!!!" type of progress
 
PHs are active hormones. The gains will always trump natty anabolics. That being said, if you're diet, training and sleep suck, you are just basically renting some extra size for a month or so.
 
Thanks everyone for the info. I've competed in a natural bodybuilding contest and I liked it. I'm still natural today cause I feel some type of pride towards it and at 23 think I'm doing damn good for being a natural, in terms of physique, and strength.
I guess I'll abstane from PHs, I only think of them cause I would love to see what I looked like after a cycle, and they seem commonly used, just not openly talked about. Reps for all! As little as mine are.
 
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