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But compared to like hdrol and epi, is it less/more?

Though I am not an expert in this area. It would seem if the, more 17a methyl molecules, the more damage.

So if you had 2 AAS, one in which the daily dose was 5mg, and one that was 100mg, then clearly with the 100mg dose you'd be getting ~20x the 17a methyl components...hence more damage.

But I could be wrong.
 
^^ well than you'd have to factor in the potency of the compound. I think the more potent a compound it is the more potential damage, but I'm no expert as well.
 
For example 60mg of SD < 60mg of DMZ, I'd feel as dmz wouldn't **** you silly like SD at that mg.

yeah but does compound potency directly related to compound toxicity? The potency is why some are 5mh and some are 100mg per day.

Another factor could be how rates, here's an example:

Perhaps the liver can accept/pass X amount of 17a-Methyl components per hour. If you go over this is when perhaps the toxicity comes into play as the liver cannot metabolize it as fast as it breaks down. Sp perhaps compound half-life also plays a role =/
 
You know what **** the liver! What about the kidney and bp? Liver can take a kicking and come back with some tudca/udca, but people barely ever ask about the kidney/bp possibility.
 
All I know is I ran THE1, loved it, and only had some slight facial and shoulder acne, and that was short lived.
 
I dont think msten is as harsh I hear it is comparable but have never run either of them. Next cycle I will be running msten for sure.
 
I dont think msten is as harsh I hear it is comparable but have never run either of them. Next cycle I will be running msten for sure.

Yep. Number one bulking prohormone at strong supplement shop. I'm going to give it a run as well here soon!!:) I'm excited!
 
I personally havent tried it but i also heard good things about it. Theres so many products at strong that is hard to try all of them .haha
 
Well I'm expecting some reps to be sending me some goodies for keeping them company while getting picked to rep ;) haha just kidding.
 
Haha i know! i still need to repay you;)
 
Hah, yeah I gotcha. You guys carry most of sns products so it will be coming your way in not too long, but I can see what I can do.
 
Msten to me is almost the same I think sd let me take more carbs if I remember and I need a little more msten than sdrol msten I won't go lower than 30mg shut down and recovery about equal with blood tests to confirm
 
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