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TGR Leaning out with the BPS Super Stack (Vanillean and DC

RegisterJr said:
On one of those machines it has a big sticker saying the machine has 8# resistance without any plates. The larger number with .XX behind the exercise name is the workout apps calculated 1RM for that days sets/reps. 190 is my weight. My cals have been varying over the last two months. Typically 2400-2600, but the last couple weeks I've had some lower calorie days. Then 1 weekend day >2600. Usually.
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Well here's my take on cal adjustment just from a small ammount of knowledge point of view. So like I said could be off in my way of thinking. But if u can do absolutely nothing physical ur gonna lose some no matter what but on the rebound muscle memory will bring most of ur mass losses back rather quickly. That's my personal experience at least. So even if u dropped from 2600 to 2100. And kept that constantly for the month of inactivity that should maintain mostly with out drastic losses and any negative gains. If u do the math for the long haul :

500 cals a day
3500 a week
14000 for the month

Doesn't seem like much room to drop but it is in reality. But now that might not be the most sound advice. Snags would be the guy to ask. Dave as well. Others may be just as knowledgeable but they helped me get stuff figured out.

And in the drops I would do my majority in the category that has the most impact for u. Some respond to carbs/fat more heavily to one than the other. So it's a personal call as far as what u pull and from where. This is just my .02. And like I said that's coming from a small ammount of knowledge. So if u , or anyone else reading , agrees or disagrees I'd like to know.
 
I'm pretty certain I'll rebound muscle-wise pretty quickly. I just don't want to put on fat while at the same time I don't want to have my body used to taking on so few calories again.

I like your plan of 2100/day throughout anyway. Doesn't seen like there's any room to get fat there.

As for carbs/fats... I dunno. I think my body adjusts better with fats. That's something I want to start working on: getting my carbs up higher.
 
RegisterJr said:
I'm pretty certain I'll rebound muscle-wise pretty quickly. I just don't want to put on fat while at the same time I don't want to have my body used to taking on so few calories again. I like your plan of 2100/day throughout anyway. Doesn't seen like there's any room to get fat there. As for carbs/fats... I dunno. I think my body adjusts better with fats. That's something I want to start working on: getting my carbs up higher.
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Carb tolerance I have no advice about. I get fatter watching other people eat cake lol. I also don't know that 30 day decrease In cals along with decreased activity will affect ur dependency much. If ur activity was staying high and intake dropping I think ud notice. However with the equal drops ull bounce back to normal intake with increased activty and be fine. Again. Just my .02
 
I'll give that cal breakdown a go. Maybe start off with 40/45/15 and see how my body respond.
 
Ah. One more days worth left.

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Still, pics and review this weekend.
 
Dang it. Ran into a chair leaving work today and now my knee is starting to hurt a little. Feels weak/awkward to do BW squats.

Not cool. This weekend will be my last chance to do a full MD leg WO.
 
2-3 WU sets-

Seated Leg Curl 120

Set 1 : 60x10
Set 2 : 90x10
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Lying Leg Curls 143
4x15/12/9/6
Don't let form slip

Set 1 : 95x15
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Set 2 : 110x9
Set 2 : 95x3
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Set 3 : 110x5
Set 3 : 95x4
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Set 4 : 117.5x5
Set 4 : 110x1

Was supposed to keep going heavier, but I just could kick it. So, I did drop sets.
Form was perfect, reps were slow.
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Leg Press 720
3-4 WU sets
Do what you did at 3x8 last week, but for 10.

Set 1 : 180x10
Set 2 : 270x10
Set 3 : 270x10

Set 4 : 540x10
Set 5 : 540x10
Set 6 : 540x10

Felt them in my quads pretty good.
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Barbell Squat 337.5
2 WU, 3x15
These should be a hard 15, below parallel.

Set 1 : 135x8
Set 2 : 135x8

Set 3 : 225x15
Set 4 : 225x12
Set 5 : 225x15

These were tougher than I thought. I was winded after the second set and took 90s before the 3rd instead of 60. Some pauses to catch my breath. Glutes were tight afterwards.


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Leg Extensions 266
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3x8, heavy and with a 1 second hold.

Set 1 : 210x8
Set 2 : 195x8
--drop set
Set 3 : 195x8
Set 4 : 120x5 fast, no hold, no lock out for the rest.
Set 5 : 80x5
Set 6 : 50x5

**Did this last drop set before leaving the gym**
Set 7 : 150x5
Set 8 : 120x8
Set 9 : 80x5
Set 10 : 50x5
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Super Set SLDL with Calves. Wasn't in program, but I didn't do calves this week. No breaks.

Barbell Stiff-Legged Deadlift 180
Focus on stretch.

Set 1 : 135x10
Set 2 : 135x10
Set 3 : 135x10

These had my legs shaking. Mostly my quads and calves though. I did get a good stretch in my hams.
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Seated Calf Raise 234
All drop sets. Slow up and down.

S = w/ Speed
R = w/ Resistance (pushing down against my legs with my arms)

Set 1 : 135x22
Set 2 : 90x12
Set 3 : 90x18 S
Set 4 : 45x50 SR
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Set 5 : 135x19
Set 6 : 90x12
Set 7 : 90x5 S
Set 8 : 45x18 SR
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Set 9 : 135x15
Set 10 : 90x15 SR
Set 11 : 45x25 SR
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Notes:

Legs were torched. I can really feel my quads aching right now already. I really need to work on those more once I get back at it.

Probably off day tomorrow. Dunno though. I'd like to push through and WO, but if I do I may not be healthy enough to WO M-W. Can't do it Thursday because I can't have any water after midnight.

My macros are off today. Either I'm going to fall short of my calories or my fat or carbs will be too high. No way I can catch up my proteins at this point. I'll end with 185-200g though.
 
RegisterJr said:
2-3 WU sets- Seated Leg Curl 120 Set 1 : 60x10 Set 2 : 90x10 | Lying Leg Curls 143 4x15/12/9/6 Don't let form slip Set 1 : 95x15 - Set 2 : 110x9 Set 2 : 95x3 - Set 3 : 110x5 Set 3 : 95x4 - Set 4 : 117.5x5 Set 4 : 110x1 Was supposed to keep going heavier, but I just could kick it. So, I did drop sets. Form was perfect, reps were slow. | Leg Press 720 3-4 WU sets Do what you did at 3x8 last week, but for 10. Set 1 : 180x10 Set 2 : 270x10 Set 3 : 270x10 Set 4 : 540x10 Set 5 : 540x10 Set 6 : 540x10 Felt them in my quads pretty good. | Barbell Squat 337.5 2 WU, 3x15 These should be a hard 15, below parallel. Set 1 : 135x8 Set 2 : 135x8 Set 3 : 225x15 Set 4 : 225x12 Set 5 : 225x15 These were tougher than I thought. I was winded after the second set and took 90s before the 3rd instead of 60. Some pauses to catch my breath. Glutes were tight afterwards. | Leg Extensions 266 As seen here: Invalid Link Removed 3x8, heavy and with a 1 second hold. Set 1 : 210x8 Set 2 : 195x8 --drop set Set 3 : 195x8 Set 4 : 120x5 fast, no hold, no lock out for the rest. Set 5 : 80x5 Set 6 : 50x5 **Did this last drop set before leaving the gym** Set 7 : 150x5 Set 8 : 120x8 Set 9 : 80x5 Set 10 : 50x5 | Super Set SLDL with Calves. Wasn't in program, but I didn't do calves this week. No breaks. Barbell Stiff-Legged Deadlift 180 Focus on stretch. Set 1 : 135x10 Set 2 : 135x10 Set 3 : 135x10 These had my legs shaking. Mostly my quads and calves though. I did get a good stretch in my hams. | Seated Calf Raise 234 All drop sets. Slow up and down. S = w/ Speed R = w/ Resistance (pushing down against my legs with my arms) Set 1 : 135x22 Set 2 : 90x12 Set 3 : 90x18 S Set 4 : 45x50 SR -- Set 5 : 135x19 Set 6 : 90x12 Set 7 : 90x5 S Set 8 : 45x18 SR -- Set 9 : 135x15 Set 10 : 90x15 SR Set 11 : 45x25 SR | Notes: Legs were torched. I can really feel my quads aching right now already. I really need to work on those more once I get back at it. Probably off day tomorrow. Dunno though. I'd like to push through and WO, but if I do I may not be healthy enough to WO M-W. Can't do it Thursday because I can't have any water after midnight. My macros are off today. Either I'm going to fall short of my calories or my fat or carbs will be too high. No way I can catch up my proteins at this point. I'll end with 185-200g though.
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Psh. Looks like somebody's doing way better work than I lol
 
RegisterJr said:
Legs were torched. I can really feel my quads aching right now already. I really need to work on those more once I get back at it.

Probably off day tomorrow. Dunno though. I'd like to push through and WO, but if I do I may not be healthy enough to WO M-W. Can't do it Thursday because I can't have any water after midnight.

My macros are off today. Either I'm going to fall short of my calories or my fat or carbs will be too high. No way I can catch up my proteins at this point. I'll end with 185-200g though.
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Solid leg day my friend!

Go with how you feel tomorrow. If you need it - rest, if not kill it!

If you really need to make up cals, make some protein ice cream, or some eggs before bed?
 
wasme said:
Solid leg day my friend!

Go with how you feel tomorrow. If you need it - rest, if not kill it!

If you really need to make up cals, make some protein ice cream, or some eggs before bed?
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I've had quite a few eggs already...

I'm considering the protein ice cream. I still have Breezy's recipe on save. Depends on how lazy I am. Shaking a bag for several minutes is a lot of work.

Thanks Wasme!
 
Ahhhhh. I forgot to counter in my yard work too. I spent almost two hours weed eating, an hour and a half trimming tree limbs, and spreading fertilizer /weed killer for a little bit too.

This is the time of year (spring/summer) where I start burning calories like crazy on the weekends.
 
RegisterJr said:
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I've had quite a few eggs already...

I'm considering the protein ice cream. I still have Breezy's recipe on save. Depends on how lazy I am. Shaking a bag for several minutes is a lot of work.

Thanks Wasme!
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It is for sure. And is the reason I took chef bob's idea and grabbed an ice cream maker!
 
RegisterJr said:
Not nice. Diet going to stay in check?
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I hope. If anything Ill come up short before I go over. But stocked up some travel goodies to keep me in line. Got my protein and shaker cup handy. Big ol bag of pistachios. Quest bars. Any road eating will be chipotle at all cost with subway on 2nd. I'm def gonna do my best.
 
RegisterJr said:
Ahhhhh. I forgot to counter in my yard work too. I spent almost two hours weed eating, an hour and a half trimming tree limbs, and spreading fertilizer /weed killer for a little bit too.

This is the time of year (spring/summer) where I start burning calories like crazy on the weekends.
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spring/summer my arse....we have snow and freezing rain coming for the next 2 days!!! sure would like to trade you 1 snow shovelling for a weed eating, lol.
 
thebigt said:
spring/summer my arse....we have snow and freezing rain coming for the next 2 days!!! sure would like to trade you 1 snow shovelling for a weed eating, lol.
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I was sweating my butt off shirtless and in shorts. Was nice today.

;)
 
Last doses for this run of Vanillean/DCP 2.0 are about to go down.
 
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Baked chipotle chicken, onions, jalapeño, sweet potato, ff sour cream, chipotle/regular pepper, and feta cheese.

582 calories with 62p/43c/16f
 
RegisterJr said:
Last doses for this run of Vanillean/DCP 2.0 are about to go down.
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i am around 2 weeks into my 1st run of dcp 2.0, so far so good...ordered another dcp 2.0, next month i am going to have to include vanillean....and maybe the newly formulated combustion!!!!!
 
thebigt said:
i am around 2 weeks into my 1st run of dcp 2.0, so far so good...ordered another dcp 2.0, next month i am going to have to include vanillean....and maybe the newly formulated combustion!!!!!
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Tell me about combustion...
 
Starting weight: 192.4

This mornings weight: 188.7

My experience:

I took DCP 2.0 an Vanillean for 30 days. I had hopes of dropping 5+ pounds, and although I fell short of that goal my visible fat loss in my abdominal area was very noticeable. I can also see more definition in my arms, shoulders, and chest areas. This was done with none-to-very-limited cardio.

Taste: there isn't any, really. I wouldn't recommend a dry swallow because the aftertaste can be 'pilly', but with 5+ oz of water the 3 capsules go down smoothly.

Stim/Crash: None. I could take these any time of the day and there was no jittery/nausea/crash/or adverse feeling at all. I took these with coffee, on a full stomach, on an empty stomach, and within an hour before bedtime. No negative sides noticed.

Appetite Suppression: My opinion varies on this. Some day I felt like there was no noticeable suppression at all. However, when I took the doses pre-WO/fasted (except a shake), I noticed I was WAY hungrier for my first post-WO meal than had I taken them 30min prior to said meal. I also noticed that if I took them with a cup of coffee before lunch I'd have little to no appetite. Never a full/bloated feeling though, IMO.

Recovery: I had read another user suggest that his recover was quickened/improved while on DCP 2.0 and Vanillean. At first I didn't notice this.

However, I had started a new routine, Mountain Dog Training, and with the intensity of the WO's my DOMs and downtime probably should have lasted longer than they did; that I wasn't paying attention to.

Also worth noting, once I was saturated with DCP 2.0/Vanillean (after the first week), I had ZERO down WO's and even hit a few PR's each week.

For me, this has been previously unheard of with the caloric deficit I was/am on.

I recommend these products for anyone cutting, and I will be using these again in the near future. Actually, I want to try these on a two month run when I get to 15% BF and see how low my BF can get to.

Before Pics:

RegisterJr said:
Starting weight, fasted: 192.4

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Wow!! Great review! Looking good man, you can see a lot of definition. Do you have a main log or are you starting another?
 
pete8407 said:
Wow!! Great review! Looking good man, you can see a lot of definition. Do you have a main log or are you starting another?
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Thanks Pete!

I have a main log here

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that I'll be going back to.
 
jimbuick said:
Great review man, and great log!

Any chance I could get you to post this up in the review section for us?
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Certainly. Give me a sec to hand-crank my PC. I don't think it'll let me rate it from my phone.
 
A lot of good work went into this log! Great detail and real nutritional information. Nice job RJ! Time to get back to Cheetos Chraining!
 
Awesome log! Two bottles of DCP 2.0 back to back is awesome. I will absolutely be running that on my next cut, hopefully along with the new Combustion!
 
wasme said:
Solid work as always ... you are a good logger Thomas.
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Thanks Wasme!

Misfit28 said:
Awesome log! Two bottles of DCP 2.0 back to back is awesome. I will absolutely be running that on my next cut, hopefully along with the new Combustion!
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To you also, Misfit. I think I saw Combustion in the review section already. I need to go read up on it.
 
RegisterJr said:
Thanks Wasme!



To you also, Misfit. I think I saw Combustion in the review section already. I need to go read up on it.
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i think you are refering to the og combustion....new combustion hasn't been released yet.
 
Calories ended at 2,603 with 284/220/66 and 57 fibers.
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I wasn't originally going to go that high, but there are items in the fridge I need to eat up while I'm still lifting.
 
RegisterJr said:
Calories ended at 2,603 with 284/220/66 and 57 fibers.
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I wasn't originally going to go that high, but there are items in the fridge I need to eat up while I'm still lifting.
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