Testosterone Testing and Ostarine

SomewhatDamag

SomewhatDamag

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Hey everyone,

This might be a silly quesiton, but will having been taking Ostarine affect testosterone levels in a blood test? I did a saliva test a couple weeks ago (prior to Ostarine) for free-testosterone and came back quite low, at 31pg/ml (Normal: 50-185). Of course, this is a different test from the total testosterone a blood test would give, but being 26, I find this to be some cause for alarm and am going to have the blood test done.

Any known issues with the blood test and having been taking Ostarine for a couple weeks?

Thanks
 
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When did you stop taking osta? Did you a PCT afterwards?
 
I haven't even stopped it yet. Just got results from test today. The point is my low T reading was before taking Ostarine. I have also not yet done any test cycle.

I did 10 weeks of HGH in December and January, that's all I've done.
 
Absolutely your going to show lower TEST now that you have been on Ostarine for a while. Just depends how long you have been on Osta when getting the blood work
 
hairygrandpa said:
Depending on dosage and duration of ostarine use, it WILL be lower, I bet my left nut on it (or what's left of the nut).
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Thanks, just got the draw done. Only 11-12 days into the Ostarine anyway. If this is still low then clearly something is up, but with the Ostarine we just know it would be even lower. Either way, I need further evaluation. Will keep posted.
 
SomewhatDamag said:
Thanks, just got the draw done. Only 11-12 days into the Ostarine anyway. If this is still low then clearly something is up, but with the Ostarine we just know it would be even lower. Either way, I need further evaluation. Will keep posted.
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Probably wont be much different after 11 days but in a few weeks it definately Will
 
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I just received my testosterone level results via blood test. Any thoughts?

And supposedly saliva test is accurate so long as it is done shortly after waking.
 
At 26 yo its bad. 11 day osta took its toll. I would use clomid at 25mg/d for about 5 weeks. After week 2 introduce exemestane at 0.6mg eod.
Then do another test by week 8.
 
hairygrandpa said:
At 26 yo its bad. 11 day osta took its toll. I would use clomid at 25mg/d for about 5 weeks. After week 2 introduce exemestane at 0.6mg eod.
Then do another test by week 8.
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I have only received the results as posted, but haven't consulted with my MD yet. I expect to on Monday.

Is that a suggestion to take immediately now with the Ostarine, to take just to Clomid now without the Ostarine, or to do the Clomid later?

I really appreciate your help.
 
SomewhatDamag said:
I have only received the results as posted, but haven't consulted with my MD yet. I expect to on Monday.

Is that a suggestion to take immediately now with the Ostarine, to take just to Clomid now without the Ostarine, or to do the Clomid later?

I really appreciate your help.
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I don't know. It depends on what you wanna do. Why do you even have the doc appointment? Because of low natural test levels? I guess your natural test levels (before osta) were around 300, that is bad anyway.
If you tell the doc you're on a sarm, he might not even know what you are talking about.... If you don't tell, he will probably send you home and take another test in a few weeks.
I would take action in my own hands, drop osta, do the clomid protocol (maybe even start it with a week of HCG first) and do another test in 8 weeks.
There is a good chance to get test at least in mid range this way.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I don't know. It depends on what you wanna do. Why do you even have the doc appointment? Because of low natural test levels? I guess your natural test levels (before osta) were around 300, that is bad anyway.
If you tell the doc you're on a sarm, he might not even know what you are talking about.... If you don't tell, he will probably send you home and take another test in a few weeks.
I would take action in my own hands, drop osta, do the clomid protocol (maybe even start it with a week of HCG first) and do another test in 8 weeks.
There is a good chance to get test at least in mid range this way.
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Thanks! In your experience what is the peril of continuing a lower dose with something like Arimidex? Or, alternatively, I do have MK677 available too, so would that be crazy to do instead of the Ostarine?

I only ask because though I have yet to try MK677, I am aware it takes awhile, works very differently, and I have responded well to GH in the past.

Naturally something like gyno is a big fear of mine...
 
SomewhatDamag said:
Thanks! In your experience what is the peril of continuing a lower dose with something like Arimidex? Or, alternatively, I do have MK677 available too, so would that be crazy to do instead of the Ostarine?

I only ask because though I have yet to try MK677, I am aware it takes awhile, works very differently, and I have responded well to GH in the past.

Naturally something like gyno is a big fear of mine...
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The problem is your low natural test. By taking osta, you suppress it even further! Your first goal should be bringing test up -not suppressing it.
MK has nothing to do with it -and will not help gain substantial muscles -unless in a anabolic environment. You can take it for other benefits, if you like it.
Anything you take that suppresses test -will make your situation worse (especially afterwards when going into PCT), unless you decide to go "always on".
With that low test, gyno may never develop, as it aromatizes from test. I admit : "never say never" though.
 
hairygrandpa said:
The problem is your low natural test. By taking osta, you suppress it even further! Your first goal should be bringing test up -not suppressing it.
MK has nothing to do with it -and will not help gain substantial muscles -unless in a anabolic environment. You can take it for other benefits, if you like it.
Anything you take that suppresses test -will make your situation worse (especially afterwards when going into PCT), unless you decide to go "always on".
With that low test, gyno may never develop, as it aromatizes from test. I admit : "never say never" though.
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Can I just say that you give some of the frankest, most direct and helpful information on this site?

I'll start the Clomid today, with the goal of increasing natural test. I do have that Arimidex, so would you suggest that after the PCT with the Clomid?
 
SomewhatDamag said:
Can I just say that you give some of the frankest, most direct and helpful information on this site?

I'll start the Clomid today, with the goal of increasing natural test. I do have that Arimidex, so would you suggest that after the PCT with the Clomid?
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Its good to have adex at hand. Do the clomid protocol (drop osta first!).
You may have greater results adding muscle with the clomid protocol, than osta. Buy some DHEA with Pregnenolone too, at amazon.
-25mg clomid ed for 5 weeks
-DHEA + Pregnenolone as suggested on the tub for 5 weeks
-adex at low dose (0.25mg e3d) if you feel the need, but not for the first 2 weeks
-a zinc supplement could be useful too
While on clomid, its basically impossible to develop gyno as it binds to breast receptors, after clomid cessation its useful.
Do a blood lab by week 8, 3 weeks after finishing clomid , to see where you at.

Edit: adex after PCT (clomid) to prevent rebound at 0.25mg eod/e3d for 2 weeks, exemestane would be better

Go sparingly with adex. If you crush your estrogen, you may feel like sh1t and your joints dry out. IMHO, no gyno will happen, it needs way more test.
 
I'll be doing that ASAP.
Am I doing the DHEA and pregenolone concurrently with the Clomid or do I do Clomid first then the other 2? Same question for the adex, like start that week 3 q3 days?

I'll see if I can source some exemestane. My usual places don't have it.
 
SomewhatDamag said:
I'll be doing that ASAP.
Am I doing the DHEA and pregenolone concurrently with the Clomid or do I do Clomid first then the other 2? Same question for the adex, like start that week 3 q3 days?

I'll see if I can source some exemestane. My usual places don't have it.
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No adex/exem needed when on clomid. However, if you feel bloated from estrogen 0.25mg adex e3d / or 6mg exem e3d should do the trick. Also, using a little bit of an AI during PCT could theoretically boost test output -but I'm no expert on it. Do as you please.
AI AFTER PCT for a few weeks is advised to prevent rebound.

Just start with clomid and take DHEA when it arrives, together with clomid.

I would try to go without AI while on clomid. The moment you introduce an AI, libido may suffer.
 
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