If you're thinking about using Rad, all i can say is you better be using test along with it. I have never felt lethargy like that before, and i've used 500mg/day of DNP before lol. Rad seemed to be pretty powerful for fat loss but it made me extremely hungry and very lethargic. My gym sessions suffered and i felt like i had to eat more to get energy and as such it was a battle trying to lose fat which coincidentally was the reason i was using the Rad. As such, i would not run Rad solo or even with any other SARMS unless there was some sort of a test base. Heck, i'd use TD Stano since it's still around, that may work and actually provide some great drying effects.