Testing Estrogen Sensitivity

[SomewhatDamag]

Is there a way to test one's sensitivity to estrogen without going all-in on the cycle? I'm still planning out cycle #1 and my two biggest fears are gyno or infertility. Does anyone have ideas of how to accomplish this?

Thanks!

 

[Shiznitzz]

The only way to check is to have your doc administer a dosage of test or do it yourself then get bloods done. That way you can check your e2 levels post aromatization, the higher the conversion level, the higher your sensitivity.

 

[CatSnake]

Is there a way to test one's sensitivity to estrogen without going all-in on the cycle? I'm still planning out cycle #1 and my two biggest fears are gyno or infertility. Does anyone have ideas of how to accomplish this?

Thanks!

have you done pre-cycle bloodwork?

that can help you, in as much that you will have an idea what your current E2 levels are, and adjust an on-cycle AI accordingly....

high bodyfat levels, high alcohol and sugar intake also increase aromatization...

 

[Old Witch]

Well, you could just take a bunch of DHEA everyday and see what happens, I guess. Or 4 andro but that's a pretty expensive way to test. The DHEA will most likely be far more telling how your body will react to super high estrogen.

 

[Old Witch]

The only way to check is to have your doc administer a dosage of test or do it yourself then get bloods done. That way you can check your e2 levels post aromatization, the higher the conversion level, the higher your sensitivity.

This won't work because you would have to be on for weeks for aromatization to reach its true peak.

 

[Shiznitzz]

This won't work because you would have to be on for weeks for aromatization to reach its true peak.

If you take a single dose and get bloods done, you can test how much of the testosterone aromatised from that single dose, it may not be the highest level of aromatization but it can test how sensitive you are to it's effects.

Now if you wanted to get an enzyme test and get the most accurate measurement then a couple weeks dosing would be optimal

Correct if wrong

 

[Old Witch]

If you take a single dose and get bloods done, you can test how much of the testosterone aromatised from that single dose, it may not be the highest level of aromatization but it can test how sensitive you are to it's effects.

Now if you wanted to get an enzyme test and get the most accurate measurement then a couple weeks dosing would be optimal

Correct if wrong

Wrong because you might not even aromatize any of it the first pin. You normally only make so much and you use all you make. It takes longer than people realize to stimulate negative feedback.

On top of that, it would need to be an unethically large dose.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Just run a non aromatizing cycle and have an AI on hand in case there is estrogen rebound during/ after PCT.

 

[Old Witch]

Just run a non aromatizing cycle and have an AI on hand in case there is estrogen rebound during/ after PCT.

Personally (don't just do what I do) I like to run an oral DHT solo and then I just keep raloxifene on hand and let nature do the rest once I come off. It has worked fine in the past for me. I do keep the strength gains, but almost never keep the look.

 

[Shiznitzz]

Wrong because you might not even aromatize any of it the first pin. You normally only make so much and you use all you make. It takes longer than people realize to stimulate negative feedback.

On top of that, it would need to be an unethically large dose.

Man I like being wrong, it gives me the chance to learn something lul

 

[AnabolicGuru]

You can’t test your sensitivity to estrogen; everyone will respond differently. Some people can have estrogen 5x higher than the reference range without issue, yet some people will grow big tits from estrogen that’s barely over the reference range. As far as estrogen levels go, everyone will aromatize specific compounds into estrogen unless they use an aromatize inhibitor. Just keep some raloxifene/nolvadex and an aromatize inhibitor on hand to play it safe.

 

[CatSnake]

Personally (don't just do what I do) I like to run an oral DHT solo and then I just keep raloxifene on hand and let nature do the rest once I come off. It has worked fine in the past for me. I do keep the strength gains, but almost never keep the look.

do you have any side effects, due to low E2? lipids, joints, etc?

 

[Delboss731]

Personally (don't just do what I do) I like to run an oral DHT solo and then I just keep raloxifene on hand and let nature do the rest once I come off. It has worked fine in the past for me. I do keep the strength gains, but almost never keep the look.

How do you dose the raloxifene? How fast for it to kick in, in the event of high estrogen sides?

 

[Old Witch]

How do you dose the raloxifene? How fast for it to kick in, in the event of high estrogen sides?

I dose the raloxifene 100mg as soon as my nipples itch. If that happens. It starts to work after the first dose or two, but need to continue for six weeks tapering off from 100/100/80/80/60/60 or as close to that as you can.

I do sometimes get low estrogen sides after four weeks continued with some DHTs or SARMS, namely painful joints. If I go longer than four weeks on an oral DHT that I know will cause that then I would use an AI on cycle and taper it off after stopping the steroid. That will prevent rebound. You can start the AI once low estrogen shows itself. I don't think my e2 has ever gone so low that it caused irrational rage and depression, though.