TestE, Tren E cycle suggestions

j.k22

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Hello Guys

Im a long term lurker on a few boards.
I have several PH cycles under my belt.I have decided to go for injectables this time. I'm not comfortable with the doses of methylated hormones I was using previously.

Main goal is to recomp, Im looking to get down to about 7/8% bf and maintain body weight.
Im 5'6 and 185, 23 YO. I stay lean year round, prob pushing at 10/11% bf just now.
Diet is 30/40/30 (Pro, Carbs, Fats) I switch to (40/30/30 when on). I have been using the "8-16" IF protocol for months now. (I know 185 seems small bearing in mind Im 5'6 and have a fairly small frame, Im no noob either, been lifting seriously for >5years now)

I'm looking to run:
weeks 1-4 Superdrol (LGI) kickstart 20 mg ED
weeks 1-12 test E: 375mg/week (possibly upping to 500)
weeks 1-10 tren E: 300mg/week

PCT (10 days after last test E pin)
Clomid: 100/50/50Nolva: 40/20/20/20/10

Chances are Im going to have to run an AI right through, I may also get some Caber on hand, but would prefer not to have to use caber ever.

-My source only has Letro, would this be a good idea to use at 0.5mg EOD.
I'd rather adex to be fair, but sourcing/logistics may be an issue.I do have ATD but not keen on using an OTC in this case

-I don't have easy access to HCG at the moment, but may try and get some before PCT begins as Im sure shutdown will be harsh.

I know the tren will be a handful first cycle. I have access to Masteron instead (any thoughts?)

Took time to write this looking for constructive Criticism. Don't flame. It is counter productive.
 
Arimidex and caber yes I would use both. Letro is too strong and your test dose is on the low side. Mast would help with aromatization but it should b ran higher than 400mg. Definitely get some adex for an AI if u can, but have caber on hand just in case.
 
Since its your first injectable cycle i dont get why you wanna mess with Tren. Especially the long esther where you cant just day to day go off if sides get too much.. if you are looking to get dry and hard Masteron will def do the job. But not as harsh a compound as tren :)
 
hgjespersen said:
Since its your first injectable cycle i dont get why you wanna mess with Tren. Especially the long esther where you cant just day to day go off if sides get too much.. if you are looking to get dry and hard Masteron will def do the job. But not as harsh a compound as tren :)
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I was looking for epic strength gains and hardness, I guess this can be supplied by a test E and Mast E cycle.
Many people rave about tren, but no so much for mast.

The progesterone activation from the tren makes me weary. I have some gyno tissue that flares up on cycle sometimes. (especially when i used trenazone and another cycle were I used pro-dienolone)

The other sides from tren; insomnia, sweats, loss of cardio function. ect. I thought would be manageable.
Gyno flare up is a huge concern, I guess hairloss would not be cool, but Ive stacked stano up to 1600mg/day and not had thinning.

I was aware that the Ethanate ester would take longer to leave my system. Ace is avaliable to me, but i dont want to inject EOD.

- what dose of mast would you stack with 500mg of test E?
 
I like aromasin and caber. I cant handle Tren. I found out the hard way. The sides almost killed me. At the very least, start out with TrenAce. You can drop it if sides get you.
Im dropping Tren and going with Deca and Mast to finish out this cycle. May run a little Winny the last few weeks.
 
threeFs said:
I love masteron. But if your first injectable cycle, I'd go with just test. If you have multiple compounds, you won't know which compound is causing sides. And don't mess with tren yet.
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I've decided to drop the tren E

I think I'll still run Masteron though. Looking to harden up. I know I can on test and an AI.
but Mast is relatively weak (compared to tren) and if sides occur I'll drop this first.

I'll prob run 500mg test E and 600mg mast E each week for 12 weeks.
I need to try source me some Adex.

Wont need caber now.

If I feel the need I could throw in a bottle of trenevar clone at week 7 to see how I take the sides, that way its faster out than tren E. Would also be nice to use it with the test base, dont fancy it without.

Thanks for advices guys.
 
j.k22 said:
I've decided to drop the tren E

I think I'll still run Masteron though. Looking to harden up. I know I can on test and an AI.
but Mast is relatively weak (compared to tren) and if sides occur I'll drop this first.

I'll prob run 500mg test E and 600mg mast E each week for 12 weeks.
I need to try source me some Adex.

Wont need caber now.

If I feel the need I could throw in a bottle of trenevar clone at week 7 to see how I take the sides, that way its faster out than tren E. Would also be nice to use it with the test base, dont fancy it without.

Thanks for advices guys.
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That sounds good now. Good luck bro.
 
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