TestE/Dbol/Something else...Ideas???

UniqueJustin

UniqueJustin

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Stats: 5 8 192 lbs, 8% Body Fat, Played around with Gear, Prohormones, and many other things, But havent touched Gear in 7 Years

Planned Cycle

Test E - Weeks 1 - 6, 500 Mgs, 7-12 750Mgs
Dbol - Weeks 1 - 5, 30 Mgs
Arimidex - .5g/day as needed

Pct - Nolva n Clomid


I want to put a lil more into this but im curious if i should toss in some Tren A, Deca, or anyideas?

Im looking for a good solid lean 15lbs, with not a lot of bloat. I plan on eating around 3200-3600 cals depending on how i feel, 40%pro, 40% carbs, 20%fat

Ideas...please shoot em out...no pun intended
 
The shutdown from deca or tren make it enough for me to never want to touch it. 750 of test in your later weeks will suffice for a good cycle :)
 
Im thinking something small perhaps 300mgs of deca or 200mgs of Tren A tossed somewhere in the cycle for like 8 weeks....This is will be happening in October, because ive cut down to where i want for the summer, and i will be running some clen and t3 soon for a lil extra help and tossing in Hdrol maybe 50mgs just to stay harder...

Im just looking for input from others, cause i might know a lot, but i also know i dont know it all.
 
100 of either can still shut you down, I would avoid any other orals on cycle so hdrol is out of the question. Also you shouldnt run clen on cycle as it will drastically increase your BP.
 
I apologize... Don't run clen/t3 with hdrol, as it could drastically increase your blood pressure.. does that help.

Also as far as your cycle goes 100mg of tren or deca could still shut you down, and if youve never ran a test based cycle theres no reason to necessitate anything outside of an oral + test base.
 
preferably id run the EQ 600mg for the entire 15 weeks alongside test....and NO, test dose does not have to be higher than the EQ
 
I never played with Eq before, but at the same time i havent played with Tren A either. So Tren Ace 75mgs EOD for the last 4 - 6 weeks wouldnt be a good idea?


What about primobolan towards the last part of the cycle. I know primo gains are pretty solid, would that help solidify the test gains?
 
Im new to gear, on my first cycle now. from what ive read on other boards and things ive picked up on the way i personaly think it would be better to run 750mg test right from the beginning, and if whatever reason you could tapper it down to 500mg. ive never seen anyone have a lagit reason as to why exactly they would ramp up the dose of a testosterone. maybe to get the feel for it? i dont know i would personaly rather run 750mg from the beginning. the difference between 500mg and 750mg in gains would be pretty well seen, and the sides shouldnt be much more of an issue with the 750mg if you have an AI/SERM. another thing i picked up on, i would recomend frontloading your test e also. if your running 500mg/week id shoot roughly 700-750mg first injection, 3 days later shoot 250mg, and e3d from that point 250mg. you will feel it hit quite a bit sooner instead of waisting your first three weeks. the dbol with that frontloaded test would be sweet.
i frontloaded my test, and started to feel it in about 5 days, now on day 14 and its hitting me well. also running drol first 3 weeks and all is working nice together. im just another newbie sreading what ive picked up on and have experienced, im in no means trying to talk like a vet and school anyone.
 
deadaim said:
100 of either can still shut you down, I would avoid any other orals on cycle so hdrol is out of the question. Also you shouldnt run clen on cycle as it will drastically increase your BP.
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Can't you read dude? He's gonna do those compounds this summer "before" his cycle in the fall.
 
deadaim said:
I apologize... Don't run clen/t3 with hdrol, as it could drastically increase your blood pressure.. does that help.

Also as far as your cycle goes 100mg of tren or deca could still shut you down, and if youve never ran a test based cycle theres no reason to necessitate anything outside of an oral + test base.
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If you're doin test you're gonna be shut down anyway, what's the point. There won't be any libido problems if you run the test with the tren or deca, which is what he want's to do. You just stop the tren or deca a couple or three weeks before your test and pct out. Also, if he happens to be usin the adex at the end of the cycle I'd layer in some nolva while on, maybe a week or two before stopping the test and stop the adex at that time so he doesn't get any estro whiplash, then just continue the nolva on into the pct.

On second thought it might be better to go ahead and run the Nolva as above but run the Adex on out for about a week or so until you actually start the pct that way it is still taking care of the estro conversion until the Test levels out.
 
576 said:
If you're doin test you're gonna be shut down anyway, what's the point. There won't be any libido problems if you run the test with the tren or deca, which is what he want's to do. You just stop the tren or deca a couple or three weeks before your test and pct out. Also, if he happens to be usin the adex at the end of the cycle I'd layer in some nolva while on, maybe a week or two before stopping the test and stop the adex at that time so he doesn't get any estro whiplash, then just continue the nolva on into the pct.
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My thoughts exactly... great post. I'm not sure about the AI/SERM protocol, but the Test/Tren is king, and libido loss will be mitigated and moot with the inclusion of Test @ or above 500mg/wk
 
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