deca is a horrible idea. You WILL be disapointed by that unless you run it with test. I can't say much more because I've never run it, but any 19-nor compounds are gonna kill your sex life. I'm up about 17 lbs in 5 1/2 weeks. I kickstarted with M-drol, so some of it is from that, and some is water, but the strength gains have been sick. Every time I go to the gym I'm stronger than the last time I did that bodypart. More reps, more weight the whole 9. You still have to force yourself to push through the pain, but your body responds to being pushed a lot better than when your natural and your muscles just quit on you.