Test vs tren for mass?

Mraesthetic12

Mraesthetic12

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Would you guys say 500mg of test is a better mass builder than 200mg of test with 300mg of tren? Im currently on 200mg test/300mg tren and my strength is through the roof, but im not as filled out as i would be on high test. I know that pumps will be better on high test compared to what im on now but I wont be as strong. What is more important when focusing on mass, pumps or strength gains?
 
I haven’t ran tren, but the effects of high-dosed test for me were underwhelming, so I’d have to imagine that tren is better. I mean, it’s literally used to bulk up cattle lol. How are your calories? I’d bump them up a good bit; you’ll probably see better fullness then.
 
People say that the biggest problem with tren is that is sucks up all your carbs very easy and that's the reason why you are flat, probably. Increase carbs and maybe even total calories, and things should be fine
 
Test is a base... Tren is the cycle.. tren is WAY more anabolic than test. If this is your first inject cycle, just run the test and I promise youll get crazy gains no matter what. Add the second compound for your second cycle so you know how your body reacts to one first. Trust me bro. Also, I'd say npp over tren any day but that my personal opinion.
 
Test and tren are better than just more test for size and strength,although tbh I would do the test at 500mhs and tren at 250. Good rule of thumb is half the dose of anabolics compared to test. If you have crazy estro issues then lower the test,but 500 &250 will make you grow like a baby.
 
Tren is far stronger than test its not even close but you'll need both if you run tren. Tren is also better than deca but it's true that eat will eat up food which can make it harder to gain weight than with other things.. Weight and muscle shouldn't be in the same category with tren since it'll still build more muscles than anything else you just won't look puffy on it, you'll look like an Belgian blue basically.
 
So my real response now that I'm competent... I always run my test at 500 with my cycles. So, bump the tren to 250 like someone said above and bump the test to 500. But to fully answer your question, no. Test @500 by itself will not be better for mass than test and tren.
 
Attila de Hun said:
I personally think tren should be saved for cutting. Add deca instead
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To OP - if you are looking for pumps, mass, etc... Then Deca/NPP are better for you now.

Tren should is great for strength and vascularity and with a Test E/C base you will add muscle and get lean. I'm running Tren A/Test E now for a bit on current cycle. You can get all big on Test and Deca first, then lean up on Test and Tren after perhaps.

Both Tren and Deca should have a test base really, to prevent shutdown and sides. Testosterone won't reduce effectiveness of other aas, unless you get the ratio way wrong...

Other folks' notes about increase carbs for your goal now make sense. Tren kills appetite for me, but it needs clean carbs to keep energy and pumps. Or you feel flat.
 
Brenwad said:
Test and tren are better than just more test for size and strength,although tbh I would do the test at 500mhs and tren at 250. Good rule of thumb is half the dose of anabolics compared to test. If you have crazy estro issues then lower the test,but 500 &250 will make you grow like a baby.
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This is the first time I run my test lower than my tren dose, I was reading that this is very popular to reduce tren sides and it definitely does work, but like i said it has been pretty hard to put on mass. I just dropped the tren and bumped my test dosage to 500mg. Something that ive always liked with test only cycles are that my appetite is bigger than when im on tren. Ill add in the 250mg of tren later on in the cycle depending how im feeling, thanks bros!
 
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