Test vs Orals

PlateHead45

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I'm at the 1.5 week mark of my first Test Cycle.

Just curious. Will my gains be similar to those of Mdrol/Msten?

Just kind of want to know what to expect.
 
this same question. I m also looking towards my first test e cycle. the thing is that after a cycle and keeping all this straight like pct diet and workout. If I don't keep at least 6-7 kg I think I will be disappointed. got no real experiences... just want to know from the vets on this board.
 
I probably gained about 15 lbs on 4 weeks of Msten/Mdrol cycles. Went from like 205 to 220. Put about 25 lbs on bench and 50 lbs on my squat. I'm assuming I'll probably get something similar with my 12 week cycle of test e, but hoping my gains are here to stay more like DTA mentioned.
 
what's ur dose mate?

I'm very sensitive with this **** with gains and sides. For Msten/Mdrol I was only running 12-16mg!

For my first cycle of test e, I'm running 300/300/400/400/400/400/400/400/500/500/500/500.

I know there was no need to taper, but as I said, I'm very sensitive to the things I put in my body and I would rather do it this way.
 
Guys....who the fuk cares how much "weight" you can put on whilst on-cycle.

What really matters is what your lean mass is like 1, 2, 3 etc months AFTER YOUR CYCLE ENDS.

Dont get me wrong, what you add on-cycle is of course important, but its not the be-all-end-all indicator.
 
Guys....who the fuk cares how much "weight" you can put on whilst on-cycle.

What really matters is what your lean mass is like 1, 2, 3 etc months AFTER YOUR CYCLE ENDS.

Dont get me wrong, what you add on-cycle is of course important, but its not the be-all-end-all indicator.

I agree.. Do higher test levels help decrease fat as well? Obviously diet, cardio, etc is priority, but in general, will I hopefully lose a couple BF% points?
 
I agree.. Do higher test levels help decrease fat as well? Obviously diet, cardio, etc is priority, but in general, will I hopefully lose a couple BF% points?

Itll help, for sure, and I think the response range is anything from "meh" to "holy fook!".

Diet > test, though.
 
I have actually seen that people who r underweight gain like hell in their 10 wk test e at 400 mg.
do the gains vary for starting body weight.
say like a 6 ft @ 160 lbs will gain more than a 6 ft @ 190 lbs.
 
I'm really hoping for the holy fook. lol.. and yup.. Eating as clean as I can.

Well at the very least, Id expect your raw bodyfat weight to remain unchanged BUT your lean body mass to increase...which effectively is a decrease in bodyfat %.

But, as you know, diet dependant.
 
Does being on TRT help with keeping gains after a blast of orals? I would think that it would, but I'm interested in other opinions.
 
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