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test & tren new cycle line up!

I'm planning my next cycle..

Test E- 200mgs a week pinning 2xs week
Tren a- EOD amounting to 400mg

Caber on hand- *ANYONE KNOW THE SUGGESTED AMOUNT TO TAKE? PILL FORM..
Adex on hand

Pct on hand
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Viron

I want to pre load the test for a week.. Then start the tren a eod.. This is my first time taking tren so I'm excited for 3rd cycle!

Open to suggestions! Or critique
Thanks
 
Ooh 12 weeks of tren harsh for 1st time
If running ace most I'd go 8 weeks
I'd run low test 200mg tren 400-500 mg ew

Then last week of tren bump test to 500mg ew fir remainder
 
I ran Tren A @ 300mg weekly and couldn't make it past 6 weeks. Sides came on hard and fast once they started.
 
12 weeks is way too long for ace. You'll want off by week 8 at the latest.

Caber you can run at .25mg e3d or so. You could even back off to .5mg once a week as iirc it has a very long half life
 
if you keep E2 in check you wont have prolactin issues

This is not true. You don't have to have estro issues to have prolactin issues... They're related but not mutually exclusive
 
Ok so I will do 8 weeks of tren at the most.. Maybe once I drop the tren A could I add dbol around week 9-end of week 12 along with the test and start pct 2 weeks after.. ?
 
Ok so I will do 8 weeks of tren at the most.. Maybe once I drop the tren A could I add dbol around week 9-end of week 12 along with the test and start pct 2 weeks after.. ?

You "could" do that with the dbol but really why? It's better as a kick start than a finish. By the end of the tren, you'll be ready to be off cycle altogether is what we're saying so don't even worry about adding something else in.
 
Were the gains reasonable just at 6weeks? And how quick do you notice tren A?

6weeks Is plenty. You'll notice in within the first week. Best gains came around week 2-3 for me and sides and overall strain got a bit rough around week 6.
 
6weeks Is plenty. You'll notice in within the first week. Best gains came around week 2-3 for me and sides and overall strain got a bit rough around week 6.


Sounds good I'll run the test e 12weeks
And the tren A 6-8 weeks depending on sides.. I won't be adding anything else.. And dose caber .5mg weekly
I'll shoot for a cutting cycle this time for the summer then

So what's the difference in tren A and tren E? Other than the short and long ester diffrence? Because tren e u can run it up to 12wks correct?
 
Were the gains reasonable just at 6weeks? And how quick do you notice tren A?

I felt it the first week and was seeing changes by the second week. I wish I had run 225 instead as I probably could have made it further.
 
I felt it the first week and was seeing changes by the second week. I wish I had run 225 instead as I probably could have made it further.

So maybe I can start out at tren A 250mg weekly and see if I can run up to 8 weeks? Not at 300mg or 400

I'm excited to try tren lol
 
Even tren e most people don't run 12 weeks they run tren e longer because sides don't kick in as soon. Trust me tren sides are a bitch and this comes from someone who's run tren for approx 15 years. Tren ace half life is 3 days 6 weeks is more than enough. If you do get tren sides even 6 weeks will feel rough...
 
Even tren e most people don't run 12 weeks they run tren e longer because sides don't kick in as soon. Trust me tren sides are a bitch and this comes from someone who's run tren for approx 15 years. Tren ace half life is 3 days 6 weeks is more than enough. If you do get tren sides even 6 weeks will feel rough...

But what if sides aren't bad
 
Even tren e most people don't run 12 weeks they run tren e longer because sides don't kick in as soon. Trust me tren sides are a bitch and this comes from someone who's run tren for approx 15 years. Tren ace half life is 3 days 6 weeks is more than enough. If you do get tren sides even 6 weeks will feel rough...


Ok good info,
I'm just goin to have to see how I react to the tren whenever I start my cycle hopefully I respond good to it..
I know people that taken tren e for over 12 weeks and no harsh sides but I understand everyone is diffrent
 
I started my cycle, I took .5mg of caber and an hour later I felt like ****! Nausea and nose was clogged up(no bugers) I had to breathe thru my mouth. I was in an empty stomach.. But I had never felt like that before on gear. Anyone have any past experinces like that??
 
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