Test, tren and winny

xFireBullx said:
Are those symptoms from the high clomid dosage? Ive blasted at that dose before but I always took mine before bed to minimize symptoms. So I dont really know how it would actually make me feel.

Still waiting on noodz.. nohomo?
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I hadn't dosed clomid at that stage, I take mine just like you, before bed. I have no idea what it was but it was not pleasant.
I took some noodz the other day but I have an ongoing problem with posting pics, it only seems to work when I get wifi coverage.
 
Just a quick recap of week 1 of pct.

Going really good. Had a similar I stance like day one on day two but to a much lesser extent, same time same feeling and came an went just as quick. They seem to have been isolated incidents as I've had nothing since.
Gym has been going fantastic, I've hit PRs in every workout bar legs which was the same as last week. I deadlifted 500lb, db shoulder pressed 95s, incline db pressed 110s. So far pct is treated me very well.
I have been feeling slightly less confident, and a but less motivated than usual. I'm hoping my osta will be here over the next few days, hoping to start that within the next week.
Supps have been, clomid 150ng for the first 3 days then down to 100mg the remainder of the week, nolva 40mg daily, erase @1 cap, DAA @3g daily and the usual multi, glucosamine etc etc.
hoping things keep going the way they have been!!
 
drewsicle3210 said:
Glad to hear your still killing it!!what exactly does Ostarine do? That is a PH right?
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Ostarine is a SARM. A selective androgen receptor modulator. It's suppressive at higher dosages, but low doses shows no signs of suppression. It helps increase muscle mass so in pct it will help me retain what I've put on.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Ostarine is a SARM. A selective androgen receptor modulator. It's suppressive at higher dosages, but low doses shows no signs of suppression. It helps increase muscle mass so in pct it will help me retain what I've put on.
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Right on. What is your dosing plan/length?
 
drewsicle3210 said:
Right on. What is your dosing plan/length?
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Well the dosage on the bottle says 3 caps a day for 20mg, ill probably just run it at 2 caps for around 14mg. I've heard you can go as low as one cap a day and still have pretty good results. This will be my first run with it so hopefully it works out well.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Well the dosage on the bottle says 3 caps a day for 20mg, ill probably just run it at 2 caps for around 14mg. I've heard you can go as low as one cap a day and still have pretty good results. This will be my first run with it so hopefully it works out well.
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Ok, I was really wondering about the length. You running it for the duration of PCT? Shouldn't you only do like half?
The way it sounds, you could almost run it solo for a natty cycle.
 
drewsicle3210 said:
Ok, I was really wondering about the length. You running it for the duration of PCT? Shouldn't you only do like half?
The way it sounds, you could almost run it solo for a natty cycle.
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Ill be running it for around 4 weeks, you could def run it as a natty cycle but after this I'm done with supps for awhile. It's baby making time apparently and wifey wants me off everything bar protein and a pre workout. Should be interesting, well see how long I can last LOL
 
Lukef2000 said:
Ill be running it for around 4 weeks, you could def run it as a natty cycle but after this I'm done with supps for awhile. It's baby making time apparently and wifey wants me off everything bar protein and a pre workout. Should be interesting, well see how long I can last LOL
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Well, at least you will still have your pre workouts
 
Lukef2000 said:
I hadn't dosed clomid at that stage, I take mine just like you, before bed. I have no idea what it was but it was not pleasant.
I took some noodz the other day but I have an ongoing problem with posting pics, it only seems to work when I get wifi coverage.
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I love clomid because I can dose it in the morning before work and I feel really goid all day. But my its chemistry and mine just happen to match idk. But I akways gave dosed in the morning and feel great
 
tinytony said:
I love clomid because I can dose it in the morning before work and I feel really goid all day. But my its chemistry and mine just happen to match idk. But I akways gave dosed in the morning and feel great
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Oh it definitely wasn't the clomid, I hadn't even dosed it at that stage. Don't know wtf was up, two days in a row at the same time I just felt miserable, came and went in a couple hours but it wasn't pleasant. I've taken clomid before night shift and have no issues with it whatsoever. I just take it at night so I remember to take it lol.
 
Been out of commission these last few days, I got heat exhaustion from live fire training, been vomiting profusely, had a really high temperature, zero appetite and just all round miserable feeling. Hopefully get back in the gym tomorrow.
 
Damn! I've gotten heat exhaustion before, also during fire training.. not a good feeling!
Are you currently a FF or going through academy?
- Feel better brotha!
 
xFireBullx said:
Damn! I've gotten heat exhaustion before, also during fire training.. not a good feeling!
Are you currently a FF or going through academy?
- Feel better brotha!
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I'm in mines rescue bro. We do everything the FFs do and a little bit more like vertical rescue etc. still feeling pretty flat and dehydrated, almost two full days later. It's definitely not a good feeling man. Thought I was in big trouble there for a bit lol.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Been out of commission these last few days, I got heat exhaustion from live fire training, been vomiting profusely, had a really high temperature, zero appetite and just all round miserable feeling. Hopefully get back in the gym tomorrow.
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Man that sux to hear, it's been super hot this year in QLD for early spring. Hope you come good to power through pct.
 
mechguy said:
Man that sux to hear, it's been super hot this year in QLD for early spring. Hope you come good to power through pct.
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Yeah man it wasn't very pleasant. Its been stupidly hot up here, we hit 41 on the day i fuct myself. Feeling almost back to normal today, going to go down shortly and lift some light shoulders, hopefully my strength hasn't suffered too much. You made up your first batch yet??
 
Lukef2000 said:
Yeah man it wasn't very pleasant. Its been stupidly hot up here, we hit 41 on the day i fuct myself. Feeling almost back to normal today, going to go down shortly and lift some light shoulders, hopefully my strength hasn't suffered too much. You made up your first batch yet??
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41, damn, i love the heat but that's gotta be harsh in all your fire gear.

Yeah made a small batch, had a problem with carbolic acid and swelling, but after washing and air drying the powder first, second batch was beautiful. Only small batches so no probs. Still learning.

Tren ace, letro, clomid on the way for next year. I'm in a similar position to you, bun in the oven before next cycle. Can't thank you enough dude!
 
mechguy said:
41, damn, i love the heat but that's gotta be harsh in all your fire gear.

Yeah made a small batch, had a problem with carbolic acid and swelling, but after washing and air drying the powder first, second batch was beautiful. Only small batches so no probs. Still learning.

Tren ace, letro, clomid on the way for next year. I'm in a similar position to you, bun in the oven before next cycle. Can't thank you enough dude!
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Yeah bro it's not fun lol. Just wearing that stuff makes you sweat let alone live fire and CABA training.
Email me you recipe, and I'll have a look over it, you shouldn't need carbolic acid, only benzyl alcohol.
I'm ordering tren hex raws soon for my next run, and I've got a supplier for tren suspension so that gives me something to look forward to lol.
Not a problem dude, glad I could help you.
 
Pct week two

Added in ostarine this week. Should start seeing some positive effects next week.
Spent the last 5 days out with this heat exhaustion and the ill effects it has on the body.
Libido is down a fair bit, not sure if its from being in pct or the fact that I've been sick. Will see how the next few days go.
Got bac k in the gym tonight, just did some body weight stuff, nothing major just to assess how I'm feeling. Strength is still ok I did 19 chins in a row, that's only a rep away from a pr, but my endurance is way down, I really struggled getting through the body weight exercises especially towards the end.
Hopefully this next week is better than the last.
 
Pct week three

So it looks like the bout of heat exhaustion has affected my strength to a pretty huge degree. For example I put up 315 bench on cycle and today I struggled hugely with 225. That's less than my pre cycle weight. I lost 6 kg (13lb) since I got sick last week. Hopefully I can turn this all around once pct is done and dusted. On a positive note being sick leaned me up BIG TIME I can see my serratus poking through and have a constant 4 pack. I'm down to 184 as of this morning. :frustrated:
 
Libido is still down, don't have a problem performing just lack of interest. Acne, wow do I have some acne on my shoulders and back. Besides the lack of strength and the issues above I'm feeling pretty decent tho. Another three weeks to go.
 
This cycle is very interesting! i feel bad that i missed it!, i will read the highlights through the pages :-P

I have a few

1.-Are you still on? (oh nvm i just read that you are on PCT)

2.-how do you manage acne? i am currently on the same boat :-/ and i am worried sinc ei will start my cycle soon and still have this nasty acne

3.- overall did you enjoy the cycle ( in a scale from 1 to 10 how would you rate it)?

4.- did this cycle meet or exceded your expectations?

5.- what was you exemestane dosage frequency? ED, EOD...?)


plus.-does winny really hurt? (i heard so many stories! ouch! )
 
KenTheEagle said:
This cycle is very interesting! i feel bad that i missed it!, i will read the highlights through the pages :-P

I have a few

1.-Are you still on? (oh nvm i just read that you are on PCT)

2.-how do you manage acne? i am currently on the same boat :-/ and i am worried sinc ei will start my cycle soon and still have this nasty acne

3.- overall did you enjoy the cycle ( in a scale from 1 to 10 how would you rate it)?

4.- did this cycle meet or exceded your expectations?

5.- what was you exemestane dosage frequency? ED, EOD...?)

plus.-does winny really hurt? (i heard so many stories! ouch! )
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Yeah in pct at the moment, lost 13lbs from having heat exhaustion at work and was laid up for a week.
I'm not doing anything for acne atm I used doxycycline on cycle to control it but I ran out a while back. I wasn't expecting acne like this in pct and as such was unprepared.
Cycle was very fun, met all my expectations, the only thing I would do differently is run the tren for longer, 5 weeks wasn't enough. Next time ill run the tren for at least 8-10 weeks.
Exem dosage was at 12.5 e2-e3d. ED dosing dries my up like a monther****er. Even at 6.25mg daily it was painful. From here on out whenever I run it it'll be e3d and adjust from there as required.
Winny hurts. Bad. Dried me up really bad for week one. Pulsing it seemed to negate the sides so did splitting the dose to 3 times daily.
Cycle highlights were the strength increases. My squat went from 355 to 405, bench went from 265 to 315 and was shoulder pressing the 100s for reps. Loved it.
 
That sucks bud. I get acne waaay worse during/after pct because of the hormone fluctuation. Usually a couple months after pct when everything levels out it goes away.
 
Danb2285 said:
That sucks bud. I get acne waaay worse during/after pct because of the hormone fluctuation. Usually a couple months after pct when everything levels out it goes away.
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Yeah I usually get a little bit but nothing like this lol. No more singlets for awhile. I'm more annoyed about getting sick and losing my strength lol.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Yeah in pct at the moment, lost 13lbs from having heat exhaustion at work and was laid up for a week.
I'm not doing anything for acne atm I used doxycycline on cycle to control it but I ran out a while back. I wasn't expecting acne like this in pct and as such was unprepared.
Cycle was very fun, met all my expectations, the only thing I would do differently is run the tren for longer, 5 weeks wasn't enough. Next time ill run the tren for at least 8-10 weeks.
Exem dosage was at 12.5 e2-e3d. ED dosing dries my up like a monther****er. Even at 6.25mg daily it was painful. From here on out whenever I run it it'll be e3d and adjust from there as required.
Winny hurts. Bad. Dried me up really bad for week one. Pulsing it seemed to negate the sides so did splitting the dose to 3 times daily.
Cycle highlights were the strength increases. My squat went from 355 to 405, bench went from 265 to 315 and was shoulder pressing the 100s for reps. Loved it.
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Thank you so much! I really appreciate the feedback, I am glad you liked this cycle, and i may dose the exemestane E3D to start, since i wont use higher than 250.

I wishh i could rep you, but system would not let me yet LOL

I wanted to run winny as well, but i think master would be more friendly. Will do a detailed log as well, atleast you are now experienced with tren i think you can run it safe for 10 weeks on your next run.

Let the tren nightmares begin !!!! :-)
 
Ok so I'm mid way through week 4 of pct, another week and a half to go. Since getting sick my strength took a major hit and it hasn't recovered as of yet, I'm going to have to try and get it back after pct.
Been feeling pretty good, libido is still down but seems to be improving daily.
Been eating slightly over maintenance and things are progressing rathe well. Still on 50mg clomid, 20 nolva, 3g DAA and 1 cap of erase pro. Acne has calmed down as well so that's good, it's still there but no where near as bad as it was.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Ok so I'm mid way through week 4 of pct, another week and a half to go. Since getting sick my strength took a major hit and it hasn't recovered as of yet, I'm going to have to try and get it back after pct.
Been feeling pretty good, libido is still down but seems to be improving daily.
Been eating slightly over maintenance and things are progressing rathe well. Still on 50mg clomid, 20 nolva, 3g DAA and 1 cap of erase pro. Acne has calmed down as well so that's good, it's still there but no where near as bad as it was.
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Glad to hear that you are recovering well my friend, PCT sucks so bad :P

Are you doing something special for the acne? ive been off for 6 months and i still have it!, not as severe as before but its still here.
 
KenTheEagle said:
Glad to hear that you are recovering well my friend, PCT sucks so bad :P

Are you doing something special for the acne? ive been off for 6 months and i still have it!, not as severe as before but its still here.
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Yeah man pct blows.
No not doing anything in particular, it just seems to be sorting itself out ;)

Forgot to mention I'm still on ostarine as well at 3 caps a day.
 
Ok so pct is all but done, weights been holding at 186 so I haven't lost anything since getting better from heat exhaustion. Been feeling pretty decent, strength has climbed a little bit but nowhere where it was prior to getting ill. I actually set a pr on barbell shoulder press a couple days ago. Libido is still a bit iffy and acne is still prominent but all in all I've never felt better during pct, I think running ostarine helped immensely and will be a staple in future pcts. I finished osta a few days ago, have three days left of nolva and another week of DAA and erase. Will have a new log up in a couple weeks, got a sponsored finaflex log coming up.
 
mechguy said:
Good to see you bounce back strong dude, and during pct too. Tuff as!
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Thanks bro it was pretty demoralizing for awhile there but I persevered and came out pretty good. I deadlifted 240kg the other day which is a new pr as well. Have you started your run yet? Did all your raws come through??
 
Lukef2000 said:
Thanks bro it was pretty demoralizing for awhile there but I persevered and came out pretty good. I deadlifted 240kg the other day which is a new pr as well. Have you started your run yet? Did all your raws come through??
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Nice PR! Gotta be happy with that. I've ordered 4 times and had 2 come through and 2 seized. The cost is still low per gram so i'm happy. I've been playing guinea pig with test/tren dose the last few weeks. I had never run tren before, i think we'll be getting on fine :) Did you're tren come through?

After the wife is preggas i'll be straight into prop and ace, but until then it's pct in december and low dose clomid through next year. So you rate osta for pct?
 
mechguy said:
Nice PR! Gotta be happy with that. I've ordered 4 times and had 2 come through and 2 seized. The cost is still low per gram so i'm happy. I've been playing guinea pig with test/tren dose the last few weeks. I had never run tren before, i think we'll be getting on fine :) Did you're tren come through?

After the wife is preggas i'll be straight into prop and ace, but until then it's pct in december and low dose clomid through next year. So you rate osta for pct?
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Yeah bro I was stoked, almost 3x bw. Oh shït so two got seized? Unlucky bro! My Tren came through 10g of Tren hexohydrobenzylcarbonate. Haven't made any yet though. That's the way to do it bro figure out how much you can handle by slowly increasing the amount. As soon as my wife is up the duff il be jumping on test e, Tren hex and mast e for around 4 months. Can not wait. Lol.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Yeah bro I was stoked, almost 3x bw. Oh shït so two got seized? Unlucky bro! My Tren came through 10g of Tren hexohydrobenzylcarbonate. Haven't made any yet though. That's the way to do it bro figure out how much you can handle by slowly increasing the amount. As soon as my wife is up the duff il be jumping on test e, Tren hex and mast e for around 4 months. Can not wait. Lol.
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Awesome dude, will you be logging that cycle too? Would be good to hear how you go.

So you must be happy with this cycle considering the holiday and heat exhaustion, yeah? Your lifts are all way up from where you started, and your pulling PRs after PCT.
 
Just came off 6 week cycle winstrol Anadrol D-bol was 305 now down to 270 but lots of water retention so I do an hour and a half on the treadmill everyday have some chest issues from dropping weight so fast and the D-bol my next cycle is Tren 50 - Testobolic - Clen Trying to lean a lot more and chisel the chest and back and increase strength gained a lot of power from my first cycle. Ready to start on the next pointers is always appreciated.
 
mechguy said:
Awesome dude, will you be logging that cycle too? Would be good to hear how you go.

So you must be happy with this cycle considering the holiday and heat exhaustion, yeah? Your lifts are all way up from where you started, and your pulling PRs after PCT.
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Yeah I'll more than likely log it, I usually log all my runs somewhere, helps me stay on point. I'm still ahead of where I was so I'm happy, progress is progress after all. Would have preferred not to get sick but shït happens lol.
 
Goldie612 said:
Just came off 6 week cycle winstrol Anadrol D-bol was 305 now down to 270 but lots of water retention so I do an hour and a half on the treadmill everyday have some chest issues from dropping weight so fast and the D-bol my next cycle is Tren 50 - Testobolic - Clen Trying to lean a lot more and chisel the chest and back and increase strength gained a lot of power from my first cycle. Ready to start on the next pointers is always appreciated.
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Well bro for starters I wouldn't be stacking 3 liver toxic orals, don't you like your liver?? Your a big guy I would suggest getting your diet in check, you can lose massive amounts of bodyfat with diet and training. Drugs are not always the answer, get down to a reasonable bodyfat percentage and then jump on something when you can no longer do it naturally. That's just my .02c bro
 
Lukef2000 said:
Well bro for starters I wouldn't be stacking 3 liver toxic orals, don't you like your liver?? Your a big guy I would suggest getting your diet in check, you can lose massive amounts of bodyfat with diet and training. Drugs are not always the answer, get down to a reasonable bodyfat percentage and then jump on something when you can no longer do it naturally. That's just my .02c bro
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I here yah Bro I am on a diet program Training I do a lot of Ju jitsu and boxing for the last seven years + The gym Bro. I was not sure of this second cycle your right three liver toxics could do bad instead of progress don't know if I should run them alone or what's easy to stack with them ears are open for pointers always Bro thanks
 
Goldie612 said:
I here yah Bro I am on a diet program Training I do a lot of Ju jitsu and boxing for the last seven years + The gym Bro. I was not sure of this second cycle your right three liver toxics could do bad instead of progress don't know if I should run them alone or what's easy to stack with them ears are open for pointers always Bro thanks
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IME the leaner you are the better the results from anabolics, I would suggest dropping down to sub 15% bodyfat then jump on a simple test cycle with an oral kicker like dbol or anadrol. If its your first injectable cycle you will reap huge benefits from it. I would however drop to that point naturally, there's always ECA, ECY, alphamine, vanillean, albuterol an or clenbuterol, these will all help you shred up.
 
Lukef2000 said:
IME the leaner you are the better the results from anabolics, I would suggest dropping down to sub 15% bodyfat then jump on a simple test cycle with an oral kicker like dbol or anadrol. If its your first injectable cycle you will reap huge benefits from it. I would however drop to that point naturally, there's always ECA, ECY, alphamine, vanillean, albuterol an or clenbuterol, these will all help you shred up.
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Thanks on The info Bro clenbuterol came with the Test & Tren stack still got two weeks left just coming off the first stack winn,,,anadrol,,,D-bol soon as Im done I'll put the clen to work !!! Later Bro
 
Lukef2000 said:
IME the leaner you are the better the results from anabolics, I would suggest dropping down to sub 15% bodyfat then jump on a simple test cycle with an oral kicker like dbol or anadrol. If its your first injectable cycle you will reap huge benefits from it. I would however drop to that point naturally, there's always ECA, ECY, alphamine, vanillean, albuterol an or clenbuterol, these will all help you shred up.
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Luke knows his ish :thumbsup:
 
Hey Luke what's good Bro just keeping up with you. I did more of dieting along with the clenbuterol dropped a few pounds thought I would have lost more but in stead I started forming a nice V shape on my waist up wings and shoulders are huge with the fat cutting off but strength is lower than usual . should I do less heavy lifting and build up with light weights or short reps back and chest is my main workout
 
Goldie612 said:
Hey Luke what's good Bro just keeping up with you. I did more of dieting along with the clenbuterol dropped a few pounds thought I would have lost more but in stead I started forming a nice V shape on my waist up wings and shoulders are huge with the fat cutting off but strength is lower than usual . should I do less heavy lifting and build up with light weights or short reps back and chest is my main workout
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I wouldn't stress about scale weight bro, clen has a strong anti catabolic and is slightly anabolic so there's a good chance you recomped.
If your looking to build back up some strength I'd suggest lifting heavy heavy with low reps. The muscle fibers responsible primarily for strength are targeted in the 3-6 rep range. Whadda ya mean back and chest is your main workout? Please tell me you do legs....
 
Oh yes Bro I do a lot of leg work chest and back is were I see most of my progress arms are cutting up nice as well I didn't even run the tren or test yet Bro
 
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