Test levels on cycle

[Brick Tannen]

Something that's always intrigued me, (because I have heard both) is what testosterone levels do while on cycle. Obviously we know "shut down", but what I'm curious about is what's it look like on labs!? Shut down is caused by your body recognizing there's to much test in the system, I.E. Shutting down its own production. But in lab work, what will it show? High levels or low levels.

 

[B5150]

Do you want time to think about this question again and maybe repost it or delete it?

It depends on what has shut your endogenous testosterone down!

If it's test then test levels will be commensurate with the dose of test you are taking.

If it's a different androgen then your levels will be below baseline and to what extend of which is influenced by the duration of said androgen use. LH and FSH will be declining relatively as well.

BTW you ask great questions

 

[Brick Tannen]

Do you want time to think about this question again and maybe repost it or delete it?

It depends on what has shut your endogenous testosterone down!

If it's test then test levels will be commensurate with the dose of test you are taking.

If it's a different androgen then your levels will be below baseline and to what extend of which is influenced by the duration of said androgen use. LH and FSH will be declining relatively as well.

BTW you ask great questions

Gotta get the number of posts up!

Anyways, if Super 4 converts to T, I'd guess T levels would be elevated. But what about 1-T? Would that increase the level during a cycle or decrease?

 

[B5150]

Increased testosterone increases testosterone.

 

[BamBam0319]

Gotta get the number of posts up!

Anyways, if Super 4 converts to T, I'd guess T levels would be elevated. But what about 1-T? Would that increase the level during a cycle or decrease?

If I remember correctly, 1-test isn't test and doesn't convert to test; it's actually part of the boldenone family.

 

[B5150]

Gotta get the number of posts up!

Anyways, if Super 4 converts to T, I'd guess T levels would be elevated. But what about 1-T? Would that increase the level during a cycle or decrease?

Sir, All exogenous androgens will suppress your endogenous testosterone production and show reduced testosterone with the exception of testosterone itself which will show physiological to supra physiological levels of testosterone based upon the dose of testosterone you take.

 

[Brick Tannen]

Sir, All exogenous androgens will suppress your endogenous testosterone production and show reduced testosterone with the exception of testosterone itself which will show physiological to supra physiological levels of testosterone based upon the dose of testosterone you take.

This I definitely get! I should have worded it differently. I realize that if 4-dhea through its 2 step conversion could actually raise free test levels. Where I get confused is when you take something else, such as 1-dhea which ultimately through a 2 step conversion converts to 1-testosterone, which at one time was a solid PH, how it would reflect on a blood lab. Another example would be if someone would run say Alpha-1, which converts to 1ad, and small amounts of M1T. How that would play out with a blood panel. You could supplement Superdrol, Trest, whatever. Meaning you still get "shut down", but does your body still show free test abound in the blood, and is it elevated, or diminished?

 

[Brick Tannen]

If I remember correctly, 1-test isn't test and doesn't convert to test; it's actually part of the boldenone family.

You are correct. 1-testosterone is a derivative of the Boldenone family, not testosterone, but with harsher sides IMO. I guess my question would be how does the Boldenone family effect free test levels while on cycle.

 

[B5150]

Read this one more time: all androgen - everyone you listed - will reduce your natural testosterone - every one. Your labs will show reduced to no natural testosterone. If you tested for those other androgens it would show those other androgens.

If you take the androgen testosterone it will reduce your natural testosterone production but labs will show testosterone from the synthetic version you are taking.

It cannot be explained any more clearly.

 

[Brick Tannen]

Read this one more time: all androgen - everyone you listed - will reduce your natural testosterone - every one. Your labs will show reduced to no natural testosterone. If you tested for those other androgens it would show those other androgens.

If you take the androgen testosterone it will reduce your natural testosterone production but labs will show testosterone from the synthetic version you are taking.

It cannot be explained any more clearly.

I get that. To end this post, it's safe to say, that unless your using straight test, whether its a conversion process or straight cyp, enanth, etc, your natural free test will show diminished. I guess I will find out exactly how much the two step conversion process of 4-dhea really is. Only issue is I am currently running super 1, and 4, so the 1 dhea could suppress the 4, when it comes to free test on the lab?

 

[B5150]

I get that. To end this post, it's safe to say, that unless your using straight test, whether its a conversion process or straight cyp, enanth, etc, your natural free test will show diminished. I guess I will find out exactly how much the two step conversion process of 4-dhea really is. Only issue is I am currently running super 1, and 4, so the 1 dhea could suppress the 4, when it comes to free test on the lab?

That would be great to see because many believe they are worthless in creating supra physiological or even physiological levels of test.