Test E/ SUST or EQ/Winni

SUPERMAN0383

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Ok guys looking for some advice here.
I'm trying to decide between two cycles. I've trained in the past few years in boxing, BJJ, MMA, now that I'm getting married I just want to take sometime off from that to spend time with my wife. Anyways, what I'm wanting out of a cycle is quality lean muscle gains that have a high post cycle retention. I'm currently on igf-1. I'm 23 years old former collegiate athlete did a few cycles when I was 18-19 mainly sust, deca and test-e.

Now with my goals in mind would it be better for me to take 500-750 mgs of sust or Test E along with nolva and ari (to keep gains dry). OR should I go with an EQ/winni stack? Just looking opinions.

My current workout is a four day split. I eat around 300 grams of protein per day. I weigh 240ish and 5'11" 17-20% bf

Thanks in advanced.
 
Test E stacked with EQ for 12+ weeks is what I would do.
 
Test should always be your base for any cycle. Test E/EQ is a good cycle, but read up on the side effects of EQ. Test E/Winny is good also, but Winny can be a bit harsh for some. Anavar in place of Winny is a bit more expensive, but worth it, IMO. You should only use nolva thoughout your cycle if you are susceptible to gyno. If not, then only use it if an issue of gyno arises, and during PCT.

If you're concerned about keeping your cycle dry, you may want to look into using Test Prop instead. One downfall is the more frequent injections and some pain/discomfort the prop may give you. Otherwise, some bloat is good for a cycle.
 
Cuffs said:
Test should always be your base for any cycle. Test E/EQ is a good cycle, but read up on the side effects of EQ. Test E/Winny is good also, but Winny can be a bit harsh for some. Anavar in place of Winny is a bit more expensive, but worth it, IMO. You should only use nolva thoughout your cycle if you are susceptible to gyno. If not, then only use it if an issue of gyno arises, and during PCT.

If you're concerned about keeping your cycle dry, you may want to look into using Test Prop instead. One downfall is the more frequent injections and some pain/discomfort the prop may give you. Otherwise, some bloat is good for a cycle.

No, I'm not suceptible to gyno. I just want to stay dry. Even though I'm not going to be actively competing for a while, I do not want to have too much *unwanted*weight gain. I've read in CME that novice users (what I consider myself) should avoid test as it hinders gains later on. That's why I was not including test as my base. The primary reason for choosing sust or test e is based on cost. The EQ/winni combo is also a cost choice. I read the side effects of EQ have sometype of effect of red blood cells and increasing endurance. I was also thinking or running Tren with low dose test 2-300 mg a week. I appreciate any advice. Thanks.
 
SUPERMAN0383 said:
I've read in CME that novice users (what I consider myself) should avoid test as it hinders gains later on. That's why I was not including test as my base.

that's just a COMPLETELY inaccurate statement ... couldn't be more wrong
 
Interesting. That's what it says in the book. I would copy and paste but it's an adobe document and I do not have the full version loaded on this machine. OK. So, 500 mgs of Test e stacked with with 400 mgs of EQ per week will not give not give me too much bloat? I'll go ahead and buy some arimdidex and nolva just in case.
 
some guys bloat regardless of what they use but test/eq aren't famous for that. i think you'll be quite happy with it. as long as your diet is clean, bloat should be minimal and in the event that bloat becomes an issue, low dose adex.
 
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